What's the difference between Gailey and Saban??

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Lionel Hutz

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What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Saban lost a combined 62-7 to two of LSU's biggest rivals (Bama and Auburn) and lost handily to a VT team.

Tech lost 51-7 to UGA (the SEC champ most likely) and played pitifully in doing so. Tech also was trounced by Maryland. Every other game we won or were close to winning.

Would you guys that want to fire Chan also fire Saban?

I know that Saban won the SEC last year and is a great recuiter so maybe that makes a difference. Is it too early to say Chan is a bad recuiter? I think so, but maybe he is. Is the difference that Chan has not won a Div. 1 conference championship?

I am just wondering because I think most people on here would trade Saban for Gailey, but why?

Is it just Chan's demeanor that bothers people? His record wasn't that bad. We beat some good teams (UVA and NCSU). LSU trounced a good team at Florida. Both of us had disappointing seasons though.

Why should Chan be treated any differently than Saban, or O'Leary or Macwhorter or Mac Brown or Lou Holtz? I mean, c'mon all of these coaches had games in which their teams were pummeled. If it happens too often, then Chan needs to go. But, one year is not enough in my opinion.

I was embarassed by the way we played against UGA, but I also think that Chan was. If he isn't, he should be fired because he has lost the desire to win. But, I think he probably was embarassed and hopefully that embarassment will motivate him and the team next year. His record and getting pummeled by UGA is not enough to fire him. If there are other reasons, then let's hear them.

In the end, I want what is best for the program whether it is Chan staying or going.

I will end this by saying I know nothing about the inner workings of the program or the AA so there may be reasons that I don't know about that make Chan a bad choice to remain as head coach.

But, strictly, from an outsider football fan's point of view, it looks silly to talk about firing a guy like Gailey after one season.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Originally posted by Lionel Hutz:
... it looks silly to talk about firing a guy like Gailey after one season.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">That may be true....it would be much better if he would do the honorable thing and resign...but the real silly part was hiring him in the first place.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

As a GT alum and follower of GT football for over 35 years, I agree.

I think Coach Gailey is a person of character and that will be demonstrated by building a winning program at GT.

You don't fire a coach after one season just like you don't fire a new hire after one week. 7-5 is respectable for a first season.

Md and ugag made us all feel bad because of the way the games looked from the fan's viewpoint, but we don't know the whole story. Give the guy a chance.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Although I'm not in favour of Gailey leaving at this point I'll point out one enormous difference... DISCIPLINE.... the dancing on the 'G' before the game was unacceptable... taking a piece of the hedge AFTER a victory is barely acceptable... this notion of going into their house before the game as a Huge underdog and mocking them is almost more embarassing than the loss... and to think that some on the boards think that Richt was running up the score...
If you come into my house and mock me and my traditions I'd sure as hell run it so far up your...
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Saban is a proven winner. He was up north and he is at LSU. The Miami offense was pittiful with CG as were the Cowboys. So where does the hope or encouragement come from. Maybe its just the attitude the team plays with or without in our case. Maybe he is a nice guy and BOB is their friend and just maybe they need a dose of meanness/perfection ala Ralph.
 
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casbah,
Totally agree we should not mock other school's traditions. Coach needs to control that.

DaveTech,
I am not going to defend Chan's jobs in Dallas and Pittsburgh because I don't know enough about Dallas and Pittsburgh. In Miami last year though, he wasn't working with much of an offense with Fiedler and no running backs and wide recievers to speak of.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

I just looked at as much of the game tape as I could stand-not much-and it seems apparent that UGAg had way better athletes on the field than we did, and they were really fired up. Their lines beat our lines bad. Occasionally our D bowed up and stopped them, but their play-calling took advantage of our weaknesses. We had to blitz too much, trying to overcome our size disadvantage, and of course that forced soft coverage which Greene, particularly, feasted on. Our offense was just not flexible enough-especially without a running back- to challenge their speed and quickness.

The "quitting", whatever it amounted to, must have been very late in the game: it was not apparent early. We just lost too many players to injury and team-quitting over the year to compete Saturday. The coaches tried a methodical game-plan, but UGAg, fired up, didn't let us pull it off. QB, of course, has been a sore spot and a weakness all year; it glared Sat.

I'm looking forward to seeing Gailey work with his own players, which we will see in a couple of years, notwithstanding the teenage girls posing as football fans on this board.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Hey Lionel,

I am disappointed in that heh team did not show any improvement as the year progressed. QB play did not improve. The coaches still had problems getting the play out. There were as many concentration problems, ie jumpinig off sides running the wrong routs, at the end of the year as the beginning of the year. This is poor coaching. Yes I know the coaches cannot play for the players but they can find a way to get them to perform well.

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Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Davetech, the Dallas Cowboys was a crashing program which is still crashing. Aikman and Irvin (big time pay) basically called the shots for America's team, but both were on their way out. Irvin retired because of head injuries, and Aikman was shellshocked with concusions. Gailey went into that mess and worked a miracle to pull them up a little by relying on the running game, but he made an enemy of Aikman--bye bye Gailey.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Personally I'd never want Saban. I don't like his style at all and I think his teams tend to be very up & down. He is a great recruiter which seems to hide some of the fact that he isn't a great coach. Just my 2 cents.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

The main difference between Saban and Gailey is that Saban played a quarterback(s) who couldn't cut it because he had no other choice while Gailey did it willingly. The reason so many people on this board are concerned is the coming disaster in 2003 if the defense struggles. Gailey will keep playing Suggs which means we will be heavily dependent on a strong defense. If the defense doesn't play well in 2003, Tech will go 3-9 and will be saying hello to Duke in the cellar.
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Belly, you are truly a masochist if you watched any of the UGAg debacle aka, going to the woodshed.

Coaching mistakes as stated by PMGold were still happening in the 12th game. Simply stated the 2002 GT Football team did not improve and where does this fault lie?
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My glasses are not totally gold colored because for this season if GT played UGAg 10 times the puppies would win 9 (the one GT victory would be blind luck). They were the better program in 2002 and typing this pains me very much. Many factors contributed to the demise of the season. Injuries are part of the game but imho we had a very inordinate number. Bad luck or poor conditioning?
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The GTAA needs to evaluate all phases of the Football program. Business as usual should not be the norm with any employee of the GTAA. I am not asking for the evaluations to be conducted in a public forum but the usual p.r. statement of "we are looking at everything re the Football program" would imho help we GT loyalists know that discussions are being held and the status quo is not being held as the standard.

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GO HOGS
 
Re: What\'s the difference between Gailey and Saban??

Beware, I'm with you. We shouldn't have hired Gailey in the first place and he should leave - but he should take Bill O'Brien with him also.

As far as our talent is deficient. That's malarkey. Our pkayers bested FSU - but not the ref's, FSU bested Florida and Florida beat Georgia. Poor coaches make the players look bad.

If Friedgen had our players he would have a top ten team - if not top five.
 
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