When GT hired Gailey....

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When GT hired Gailey, was there anyone else actually in the running (Ralph didnt want it..)? I have always ranked GT's biggest coaching hire screwups in my lifetime as:

1. B*** L**** over OLeary or Ralph

2. Bill Curry over Steve Spurrier
 
Spurrier was a young qb coach and never would have gotten a HC job in 1980.

O'Leary & Fridge were at San Diego at the time and weren't obvious choices, IMO.

When we hired CG, he was UGAys #1 candidate to replace Donnan at the time but UGAy wouldn't hire him when he said he had to finish out the playoff season for the Dolphins (would have hurt rrecruiting).

We almost hired the BC coach. We asked Bobby Ross to retrun but his wife said, "no" he was retired. That one really gets me.

The worst non GT hire ever was when we hired Carson over Dickey at UT (I think it was Dickey).

I am amazed that you know so little about our football past and yet so adamatly say that UGAy is not our most important game. Maybe I am 41 and have seen more than you over the years (I think I remember where you said you were a student)...
 
#1 is obvious. #2 is definately up there. But had Spurrier been hired, we would more than likely never have gotten Ross and never would have won the 1990 NC.

I would put Gailey behind both of them, but I agree with you to some extent. The coaching search that year was based on Braine wanting Tom O'Brien from BC. OBrien was ready to come to GT. It was the board that voted down that choice and then braine had no one. He finally took a suggestion from a long time supporter of GT to look at Gailey.
 
gtyellowjackets said:
Spurrier was a young qb coach and never would have gotten a HC job in 1980.

I guess he learned a lot real fast.. Coaching the Bandits in the USFL 3 short years later...

1983: 11-7
1984: 14-4
1985: 10-8

Then on to Duke where of course, he won...
 
gtyellowjackets said:
I am amazed that you know so little about our football past and yet so adamatly say that UGAy is not our most important game. Maybe I am 41 and have seen more than you over the years (I think I remember where you said you were a student)...
why is it you think I know so little? because I value a Championship and a victory in one of the "real" bowls over a regular season victory against an SEC also-ran? You have a strange gauge for knowledge...
 
BarrelORum said:
#1 is obvious. #2 is definately up there. But had Spurrier been hired, we would more than likely never have gotten Ross and never would have won the 1990 NC.

I would put Gailey behind both of them, but I agree with you to some extent. The coaching search that year was based on Braine wanting Tom O'Brien from BC. OBrien was ready to come to GT. It was the board that voted down that choice and then braine had no one. He finally took a suggestion from a long time supporter of GT to look at Gailey.

I think Spurrier would have stayed 8-10 years, and then left for Florida.. and 8-10 years of spurrier may have been as good as 5 years of Ross for the "I". But I am grateful for Ross and everything he did..
 
BOR, you left out why the board voted down OBrien. Very important.

I was disappointed, but in retrospect, I don't think that OBrien would be exceeding Gailey at this point.
 
GTCrew said:
BOR, you left out why the board voted down OBrien. Very important.

Valid point that must be considered. O'Brien was not willing to do it the Tech way.
 
JonnyGT said:
Valid point that must be considered. O'Brien was not willing to do it the Tech way.
Very true, he has said many times how much of a pain in the a** it is to him first take a transcript to the admissions office in order to get the ok to start recruiting a kid. I think the last time a media outlet mentioned it was when news broke of UVA's failure to get those kids they signed last year into school.
 
JonnyGT said:
Valid point that must be considered. O'Brien was not willing to do it the Tech way.

Yeah, his coming was more or less contengent on establishing an easy major to funnel SAs into (sociology at duke kind of thing), and the board said no. I'm glad that descision was made.

Wow, my first post in 2 weeks... I guess we see where I am.
 
RamblinPeck said:
(sociology at duke kind of thing).

Or like 90% of the degrees at UGA (I'll give them accounting a few others that SA's never see on their calendars).
 
gtyellowjackets said:
Spurrier was a young qb coach and never would have gotten a HC job in 1980.
Curry was a sports announcer. There is no way in Hades Curry was more qualified than Spurrier. Curry was a Tech man, though, and Spurrier also had the strike of being from Pepper's staff, but to say Spurrier was not qualified compared to Curry is insane.

O'Leary & Fridge were at San Diego at the time and weren't obvious choices, IMO.
Bill Lewis was hired to replace Ross, so O'Leary and Friedgen were right here not at San Diego, and they were also both recommended by Bobby Ross.

I am amazed that you know so little about our football past...

You said a mouthful.
 
I still think Gailey is a good HC.

We need a QB, or someone who can develop QBs, on our staff. Nix gets 1 more year IMO, to see what he can do without Reggie, and then he's either reupped or fired depending on the performance of our offense next year.
 
mm42: B*** L**** was coach of the year in the NCAA when we hired him. As bad as he turned out to be he was clearly the obvious choice.

Spurrier wasn't more qulafied than BC at the time. They were both about equal and Curry was a Tech man. Beleive me when I say I would have loved to have had Spurrier.

Don't play revisionist history...
 
Don't get that post mm42. Curry was on Pepper's staff for three years, so why didn't that disqualify him? He was on the Green Bay staff when we hired him IIRC. He didn't go into announcing until after he left coaching as far as I know.
 
I WANT to like CCG, but this has done it for me. I think that the players like him very much. How does the past two games change that? I try and think of EVERYTHING that CCG has done well. I don't know what to give him credit for.

Defense- No. Maybe the hire of Tenuta, but how much did he SEEK out the DC. Did Braine have influence on that. I don't know how much a new coach searches for assistants.

Offense- I won't insult anyone here about the Os positives. I might give him credit for RBack and OL development, but don't know who was running those areas at the time.

ST's- Lack of depth over the years makes it tough to pinpoint. Improvement from last year though.

My point is would the AD or others involved have brought these guys in under another coach, or do we credit CCG for this?

My point is that to what does CCG get credit for ANY of the current success? I have too many questions for myself and I apologise for bringing up more questions.
 
I said it in another thread, but Tenuta was a nomadic genius. Chan may not get credit for hiring him, but he deserves massive kudos for doing what no other HC has been able to do and that is keep him happy.

Chan also deserves credit for the current recruiting class.
 
ncjacket said:
Don't get that post mm42. Curry was on Pepper's staff for three years, so why didn't that disqualify him? He was on the Green Bay staff when we hired him IIRC. He didn't go into announcing until after he left coaching as far as I know.

My point was merely that Curry was no more experienced or known (outside of Georgia Tech) than Spurrier.

My recollection is that Bill had left the Packers and taken a job as a sportscaster when we hired him.

I meant no disrespect to Coach Curry, one of my favorite Tech men.
 
gtyellowjackets said:
mm42: B*** L**** was coach of the year in the NCAA when we hired him. As bad as he turned out to be he was clearly the obvious choice.

That has nothing to do with where O'Leary and Friedgen were, which is the misinformation I was trying to correct.

Spurrier wasn't more qulafied than BC at the time.
I didn't say he was - they were both pretty equally unknown quantities as coaches - I merely intended to refute the idea that Spurrier was not qualified to be our head coach, when in fact he was as qualified as the one we hired.
 
If Spurrier was the QB coach of a college team he was less qualified than any coach on a Pro team IMHO to lead a Div 1 team.

It appears Curry was underqualified by today's standards, but it is much easier to take a chance on a 'Tech man' no doubt. Hindsight proves Spurrier a genius, but making one of the other 118 Div 1 QB coaches at the time our HC would've probably been a total disaster...
 
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