Whoever we do get....if successful....

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sadly enough.... will just move on after 5 years because we will always be behind from a $$$ perspective. Curry, Ross, O'Leary, Gailey, next?
 
Besides winning our division in his 5th year, a couple victories over teams that should have beat us during his tenure, and finally hiring someone who can recruit,...what would make you put chan in the "successful" column?
 
3rdGenJacket said:
Besides winning our division in his 5th year, a couple victories over teams that should have beat us during his tenure, and finally hiring someone who can recruit,...what would make you put chan in the "successful" column?

At least one other team (for whom winning is ALL business) thinks he is successful enough to put him in charge of their quest of a championship.
 
What does that have to do with the point hivered raises? Even if you don't consider Gailey successful, someone may be willing to pay more than we are to have him coach their team. What that means to Tech overall is the issue he's raising, not what you think of Gailey.
 
hiveredtech said:
sadly enough.... will just move on after 5 years because we will always be behind from a $$$ perspective. Curry, Ross, O'Leary, Gailey, next?

Good God man, you just now figured this out? We are consistantly a second tier program and like any second tier organization we can afford to feed off lower-ranked programs but it is bound to also go the other way as well.

PS Winning is not enough. If we, as an ACC football school in the Southeast are going to fill enough seats to make it work, must have an exciting team (that wins more than 7 a season) and a charismatic head coach.
 
Large Fan Base = Lots Money = Coaching Stability (Maybe?)

Even big schools that pay top dollar to their coaches lose them to the NFL if they viewed as having the competency to make the jump.

- Perkins left Alabama
- Spurrier left Florida
- Johnson, Erikson, and Davis left Miami
- Holtz left Notre Dame
- Saban left LSU
- Mack Brown left UNC

Unless you are packing an 80K+ stadium you cannot hope to compete with the money that larger football programs or the NFL can offer and even then your HC might leave for a new challenge at another college or try their hand at the highest level in the NFL.

I would love to have a great HC that would turn down 2-4 times what we can afford to pay because he loved GT that much, but that just is not reality. Reality says let's hope that we get a good coach that has a 5-10 year run that is so successful that someone will be willing to offer them 2-4 times what we can afford to pay. Unless we expand our fan base, we will continue to be the stepping stone to better opportunities for coaches.
 
71YellowJacket said:
Good God man, you just now figured this out? We are consistantly a second tier program and like any second tier organization we can afford to feed off lower-ranked programs but it is bound to also go the other way as well.

PS Winning is not enough. If we, as an ACC football school in the Southeast are going to fill enough seats to make it work, must have an exciting team (that wins more than 7 a season) and a charismatic head coach.

I knew this long ago...I bring up this point for discussion because some are still of the hysterical belief that this coach "that will never leave and win national championships at GT" exists out there.

btw...the national championship was not even good enough as we did not sell out season tickets in 1991. Matter of fact, I was told that we sold more season tickets this year than we did in 1991.

We will always have a more difficult time financially since we are in a pro sports market and the rural fan base in Georgia identifies more with the school in Athens. As far as financial giving goes...engineers are cheap. Schools like Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, Clemson can make more financial demands from people buying tickets as they will take an equity loan on their mobile home to keep their seats!!! :-)
 
hiveredtech said:
I knew this long ago...I bring up this point for discussion because some are still of the hysterical belief that this coach "that will never leave and win national championships at GT" exists out there.

btw...the national championship was not even good enough as we did not sell out season tickets in 1991. Matter of fact, I was told that we sold more season tickets this year than we did in 1991.

We will always have a more difficult time financially since we are in a pro sports market and the rural fan base in Georgia identifies more with the school in Athens. As far as financial giving goes...engineers are cheap. Schools like Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, Clemson can make more financial demands from people buying tickets as they will take an equity loan on their mobile home to keep their seats!!! :-)

I don't think we will ever have a fan base large enough to support a program as large as Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee. More than a few of us need to come to grips with our standing in football's
hierarchy.
 
The main thing holding GT back is the small and dispersed alumni base. UGA, for example, has 28,000 students and, assuming all those students graduate in four years, that translates to 70,000 students graduating from UGA over 10 years. Not to mention that most of those stay in Georgia.

So, taking all the alumni that have graduated over the past few decades, UGA could easily fill up their stadium without their substantial base of sidewalk fans. GT, even in the most optimistic scenario, would still absolutely have to rely on sidewalk fans to fill up a 70K+ stadium.
 
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