Who's Who of Recruiting

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Had to bump this. I know I am speaking the obvious by pointing out that we are quite average, if not below average on recruiting. It has been proven that you don't NEED top talent to win championships, but c'mon folks. Is it consistency that we want? While I agree that coaching has a lot to do with consistency, depth/talent at position is so huge to be at the calibur that we expect. Pardon the venting, but WHEN will we start to recruit talent that we have in the past and I KNOW that GT is capable of.
 
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you can coach up players that have more heart and fight in them than raw talent, but after watching the game last night, it is obvious that while there is some parity in college football at the mid-level programs, with the elite schools, there is no way to compete, either team last night could have beaten us by a large margin with us playing at our very best
 
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Maybe so, but I also believe either of those teams would have beaten UGA by a large margin as well. Probably would have beaten Penn State by a significant margin as well. Ohio State in my opinion would match up better with Texas and USC than anyone else. ANd we've already seen them match up evenly with Texas.
 
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Maybe so, but I also believe either of those teams would have beaten UGA by a large margin as well. Probably would have beaten Penn State by a significant margin as well.

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This year, maybe so, but year-in and year-out, UGA and PSU can and will compete with the likes of USC and Texas much better than we would, ASSUMING recruiting continues as it is going for these schools now. We, on the other hand, are no where near them in raw talent.
 
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Oh yeah, all the top NFL bound talent would rather come to a school where they can spend all of their time busting their butts to stay eligble.
 
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We, on the other hand, are no where near them in raw talent.

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NonG, to be very honest, if we suddenly started recruiting top 10 classes right now I would be certain we wuz up to sumpin!
However, if the Jackets can start putting together 8 and 9 win seasons and are fighting for a bcs slot with the same type of classes we have now (mostly 3 star guys with an occasional 4 or 5), I think we would be able to cash in with the blue chip prospects around the country that think it's cool to win and be smart.

Of course, this home run would take both an incredible amount of coaching and GT marketing that I have yet to see.
 
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It would (will) also take time and stability or at least continuity in the program. You don't jump up into the top 10 in recruiting by having a good year. You have to prove it over time. We seemed to be on the way before O'Leary bolted although I'm not sure if that would have continued under the current academic restrictions. But it's not something that happens overnight.
 
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If Chan had kept some of the staff from the year before I dont think recruiting would have dropped from the top 25 to the bottom of the ladder
But he knows what he is doing
 
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I don't think it was just Chan's decision on keeping any of the staff during the changeover.

Regarding the other posts, we unfortunately are behind Notre Dame now as the national team for smart kids. There are only so many smart kids that want to play football at Tech and Notre Dame is now taking "ours". This is going to be a problem for us in the near future.

Regarding recruiting, we need to pick up a Top Notch QB. Every great team always has a very good qb. We've been light there for five years now. I have no problem with half of Chan's recruits being developing players, but QB is the one area that you need skill and size coming out of high school.

I'm hoping that the light bulb comes on for Garner, Bennett, et al.
 
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Regarding the other posts, we unfortunately are behind Notre Dame now as the national team for smart kids. There are only so many smart kids that want to play football at Tech and Notre Dame is now taking "ours". This is going to be a problem for us in the near future.



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Well, this is our niche. I agree with you on how it is now, but that has to be addressed and fixed.
 
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Tell CPH that. I do realize it is different than football, but my point was that one year of success can turn recruiting around. Wishful thinking, HUH?
 
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One year of success can improve recruiting. But it doesn't suddenly make a school a recruiting power. That's built over time. In basketball, big time recruits are on the court immediately. In football, even top classes don't normally have as much impact on the field their first year, especially linemen. I'm not saying a 9 win year doesn't help recruiting, just that multiple good years in a row are what really makes a dent.
 
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It would (will) also take time and stability or at least continuity in the program. You don't jump up into the top 10 in recruiting by having a good year.

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That's generally true, but if 'continuity' is defined as keeping a mediocre coach who can't recruit well over a long time, that won't cut it. A new, charismatic, energetic head coach can often have an impact his first year, even with someone else's recruits, and then immediately begin to benefit on the recruiting trail.
 
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I'd like to know one thats ever had that kind of inpact at GT.
 
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I don't know if I'd say often...but it is sometimes true that a new coach can have an immediate impact on a team's w-l record. More often though I've seen them have an impact on the team's attitude, which can sometimes mean worse records if all team members can't adjust. Think Ross' first year as an example. There was no reason that team should have been 2-9, they just couldn't adjust from Curry to Ross.
 
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I don't think it was just Chan's decision on keeping any of the staff during the changeover.

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Could you elaborate on this?
Why wouldn't it be Chan's decision to put together his own staff?
 
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I can't think of one, either. Guess that's our problem...there's a school somewhere that does it every year, though, so it's possible.
 
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GT is a very special situation, even Bobby Ross admits that to be true, but it won't happen if we do not have some patience.
 
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