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He said it appears that recruiting had really picked up the last two years, because the players he's really impressed with tend to be the younger guys.
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I think I heard this right... he mentioned he likes to run a 4-2-5 defense, but also talked about 4-3 and 3-4. I'm sure it will fit the best 11 players he can get on the field at once.
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He said the best defense was when the offense held on to the ball and had long drives to keep the defense off the field, so he is really happy to be working for Coach Johnson. Said when he interviewed with Coach Johnson, he was asked how many posessions did his defense have to play during a game. He guessed about 14. Johnson told him his offense averages only 9 posessions in a game because they control the ball and clock. Coach Wommack said he told Coach Johnson he really REALLY wanted this job after hearing that.
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He has met DJ Donley, he is a good young man, but just going through some very difficult personal times. He's still in the mix to play here.
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The 4-2 tidbit was interesting.

The 9 possession thing was the most interesting, though, because that's a big improvement over Chanball. As much as we ran the football, we still rarely held an opposing team to 9 total drives. I couldn't get numbers for last year, but in 2006 when we pulled 9 wins down, here were the stats for our meaningful games:

Opponent Score Drives PPD
ND 14 10 1.4
UVA 7 14 0.5
VT 27 14 1.9
Mary 23 11 2.1
Clem 31 12 2.6
Miami 23 14 1.6
NCS 23 16 1.4
UNC 0 11 0.0
UGA 15 12 1.3
Wake 9 12 0.8
WV 38 12 3.2

We never held an opponent to 9 drives, and sometimes gave away as many as 16. Our ability to shorten games with ball control is going to seriously help us versus high powered offenses.
 
Good stuff. Where did he make those comments? The fewer plays the D is on the field the more aggresive and effective they'll be. Should give them an advantage every game.
 
Is that a typo? He said his offense averaged 9 drives a game. "Johnson told him his offense averages only 9 posessions in a game"
 
beej67 said:
We never held an opponent to 9 drives, and sometimes gave away as many as 16. Our ability to shorten games with ball control is going to seriously help us versus high powered offenses.
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High powered offenses? We are still going to be in the ACC right???
 
yellowphysics said:
Is that a typo? He said his offense averaged 9 drives a game. "Johnson told him his offense averages only 9 posessions in a game"
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last year Navy's offense averaged 11.7 posessions per game. You have to keep in mind that Navy's defenses weren't that great, so it wasn't effective at keeping the ball back to the offense
 
LB = "Lunch Bunch" at Frankies or whatever.

9 is not a typeo, but it is a quote from another dude who may or may not have taken good notes.

I rather like the idea of an offense that never, ever goes 3 and out, particularly after watching debacles like VT last year.

last year Navy's offense averaged 11.7 posessions per game. You have to keep in mind that Navy's defenses weren't that great, so it wasn't effective at keeping the ball back to the offense
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And yet, even with Navy's wretched defense, that's still a possession less than we gave our opponents in 2006. Still can't find the data for Tech in 07 yet.
 
Hmmm, wouldn't a worse run defense actually result in less drives? A horrible run defense giving up an average of, say, 6 ypc would result in the clock running more and both teams having less possessions.

Conversely, we could have had more possessions in 2006 because the defense was very good at forcing the other team to give three and outs.

I can see what you're saying beej, but the actual time of possession would probably be the more important statistic.
 
according to the numbers I just calculated from ESPN

GT's opp. averaged about 13.5 possessions last year

Navy's opp averaged about 12 possessions.
 
TOP, IMO depends just as much on the D as it does on the O. A better stat would probably be possessions per minute, which I am too lazy to do.
 
TOP is a lazy stat. What you want to see is your offensive plays vs the other guy's.
 
beej67 said:
TOP is a lazy stat. What you want to see is your offensive plays vs the other guy's.
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more stats for ya

2007

GT had about 867 O plays
GT's opp about 817 plays

Navy had about 879 O plays
Navy's opp had about 891 plays
 
odw said:
more stats for ya

2007

GT had about 867 O plays
GT's opp about 817 plays

Navy had about 879 O plays
Navy's opp had about 891 plays
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the fact that navy's opponents had more plays than their O means their D sucked. Which it did. How many plays the other team has, has no relation to how many plays your offense has. If you also notice, Navy's D was on the field as much or more than their offense too.

The only correlation you can make is TOP to the number of plays. Heck its even tough to correlate TOP to offense due to turnovers, defense being poor and other factors.

Both stats, # of plays and TOP tell you little about either team IMO and are WAY over blown. The only thing they tell me is which D is getting tired quicker. THAT is about it.
 
33jacket said:
the fact that navy's opponents had more plays than their O means their D sucked. Which it did. How many plays the other team has, has no relation to how many plays your offense has. If you also notice, Navy's D was on the field as much or more than their offense too.

The only correlation you can make is TOP to the number of plays. Heck its even tough to correlate TOP to offense due to turnovers, defense being poor and other factors.

Both stats, # of plays and TOP tell you little about either team IMO and are WAY over blown. The only thing they tell me is which D is getting tired quicker. THAT is about it.
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agreed, its hard to get a feel for things looking at only stats. like it or not, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
33jacket said:
How many plays the other team has, has no relation to how many plays your offense has.
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33, this is not entirely true, because if one team "hogs" the ball then the other team could get less time to run more plays than they might against a team that doesnt hold the ball as long.

if one team rushed every play for 2.5 yards (including on 4th downs) and take the maximum time to snap the ball, they could take up a lot of time that your offense might otherwise be on the field running plays.

but, as you mention, none of these are exact or direct correlations and there are too many outside factors involved to really come up with a calculus to "solve it"
 
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