PJ press conf link.....

Lol, we have four commits who were player of the year in their states, one of which was a Parade All American, and they're all three stars.

Hi. Larious.
 
beej67 said:
Lol, we have four commits who were player of the year in their states, one of which was a Parade All American, and they're all three stars.

Hi. Larious.
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Not a single 5* started in the Superbowl. We are on our way
 
MACHETE said:
Unfortunately, we don't play in the Super Bowl
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I will punch you right in the öööö babymaker if you don't shut up. We are gonna be so öööö good that the national championship game will just be a Gold vs. White scrimmage.
 
always great to hear PJ put things in perspective. He is very confident guy and seems to be someone you want leading you to battle.

It really seems like we may be moving up in the world. Butthurt futures seem to be at an all time low for football.
 
I like how he puts it out there Justin Thomas could be beat out. Watch yourself Justin!
 
Really good assessment. I think he is somewhat amused that a player like Gray is a 3 star; pretty certain that if he had chosen an SEC school he would at least be a 4. I like the approach of saying they all get a chance to play right away, but that they have to show the coaches they are ready or a red shirt will come. This year it seems CPJ's forthright and direct communication style seems to have been an asset in recruiting. In other years it was seen as a detriment. May be a function of winning 11 games and beating UGA.
 
77GTFan said:
....This year it seems CPJ's forthright and direct communication style seems to have been an asset in recruiting. In other years it was seen as a detriment. It is a function of winning 11 games and beating UGA.
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FTFY

Winning cures all.
 
77GTFan said:
Really good assessment. I think he is somewhat amused that a player like Gray is a 3 star; pretty certain that if he had chosen an SEC school he would at least be a 4. I like the approach of saying they all get a chance to play right away, but that they have to show the coaches they are ready or a red shirt will come. This year it seems CPJ's forthright and direct communication style seems to have been an asset in recruiting. In other years it was seen as a detriment. May be a function of winning 11 games and beating UGA.
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Funny how that works. :biggthumpup:
 
77GTFan said:
Really good assessment. I think he is somewhat amused that a player like Gray is a 3 star; pretty certain that if he had chosen an SEC school he would at least be a 4.
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Well that would assume he got an SEC offer to begin with, which he didn't according to yahoo. He only had 6 offers and only 2 were from P5 schools (GT and UNC). Surprising that the Georgia POY didn't get more attention even from ACC P5 schools.

I hope he turns out to be special and plays with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.
 
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Well that would assume he got an SEC offer to begin with, which he didn't according to yahoo. He only had 6 offers and only 2 were from P5 schooles (GT and UNC). Surprising that the Georgia POY didn't get more attention even from ACC P5 schools.

I hope he turns out to be special and plays with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.
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His Dad has a PhD and is a school principal; his sister went to UNC. The SEC knew to not bother.
 
JJacket said:
I will punch you right in the öööö babymaker if you don't shut up. We are gonna be so öööö good that the national championship game will just be a Gold vs. White scrimmage.
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mind rite
 
beej67 said:
Lol, we have four commits who were player of the year in their states, one of which was a Parade All American, and they're all three stars.

Hi. Larious.
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This is the most excitement we've had about a 3-star since Vad what's-his-name!
 
beej67 said:
Lol, we have four commits who were player of the year in their states, one of which was a Parade All American, and they're all three stars.

Hi. Larious.
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It's interesting. The only other P5 offer for AJ Grey, the Parade All-American, is UNC. Unless he's holding back offers from Rivals or didn't get offers because he committed to us last March, then it is hard to justify a 4* or 5*.

The state players of the year and Parade All-Americans are based on the high school play at the high school level. The fact CPJ goes after them may say he takes football skills as opposed to the combine measurements other coaches look at. Even if they don't run an option offense in high school, the players successful at HS but not great combine measurements are probably the most teachable.
 
floridajacket said:
It's interesting. The only other P5 offer for AJ Grey, the Parade All-American, is UNC. Unless he's holding back offers from Rivals or didn't get offers because he committed to us last March, then it is hard to justify a 4* or 5*.
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So you outright admit that star rankings are purely about how many factories you have on your offer sheet, without accounting at all for actual play on the field.
 
beej67 said:
So you outright admit that star rankings are purely about how many factories you have on your offer sheet, without accounting at all for actual play on the field.
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I didn't think I was defending star rankings, but...yes? That is what I'm saying.

I'm not sure what people are expecting out of recruiting sites. I count about 2,000 total recruits which could get offers from P5 schools. They just aren't going to watch a lot of film on all 2,000 players and then give a good prediction on whether a Safety from the 4A level in Colorado is better than a Safety from the 3A level in Florida.

Using offers should free-ride off of all the work of coaches and graduate assistants watching films and running camps. Offers are a definite, objective independent variable whereas watching film is entirely subjective. There are a few issues:

1. Not every school is looking for the same athlete.

2. The effect of early offers and "strong verbals." Will Bryan had interest from Georgia and Clemson. AJ Grey had interest from Georgia. Both were very early commits. Also, some places like Boise State will have their recruits hurt. If a guy is really good in Idaho, Montana, Utah or even Colorado, they may be unlikely to leave that area and so their offers won't correspond with their possible success.

3. Even using just offers weighted by weighted success, a lot of the rankings don't make much sense. Rivals and Scout made a lot of ND players 4*'s even though many of their other offers were from schools like Indiana, Purdue and Illinois. The impact of the number of subscribers and/or the subjective effect of an offer is clear. A Florida or USC offer still carries weight based on past success.

4. Many of the top recruits, especially using combine measurements, would also give only three years before turning pro.

One thing I've wanted to do is download a Rivals database of offers and seeing if an objective model could be created for a team's future success. Also seeing how an objective model's star rankings would compare with actual star rankings. The outliers for team success would probably be team's with atypical offenses, such as Tech's or Leach's offense where he's fine with short but fast receivers.
 
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