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I guess I never saw it in any threads about him if it was ever mentioned, but I assume he didn't apply for a medical hardship waiver to play next year since he was honored before the game at Senior day?
 
GoGATech said:
I guess I never saw it in any threads about him if it was ever mentioned, but I assume he didn't apply for a medical hardship waiver to play next year since he was honored before the game at Senior day?
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Better to be honored and get the waiver than not be honored and not get the waiver.
 
He applied. I don't think he's heard back yet. It is likely that he will get it, but there is no guarantee.
 
I recall an announcer on a football game mentioning a player somewhere that had gone through 3 senior recognition ceremonies. The third one was due to getting an injury waiver after his senior season ended, but I don't remember why he had the other extra one.
 
My understanding of the hardship waiver is that you have to miss 2 seasons due to reasons beyond your control. Tim missed 1 season due to injury, played 2 seasons, sat 1 season due to transfer, and sat 1 season as a RS Freshman at MTSU.

So to get the medical redshirt, he would need to claim that he wasn't given an option at MTSU?
 
if you play in only the first 2 or 3 games of the season and then are injured you get the medical waiver, typically

for an athlete who has appeared in a game or games for their team and then becomes injured, or comes down with a serious illness that prevents them from being able to participate in any more games during the season, it’s possible to obtain a “medical hardship waiver” which will allow them to retain this season of eligibility. In essence, it’s possible for them to get this year “over again” (as long as they haven’t exhausted their five-year or ten-semester window of opportunity).

Here’s a brief overview of the medical hardship waiver rules for the various levels of college competition. Please note that at all levels, medical documentation from the time of the actual diagnosis of the injury or illness will need to be submitted with the waiver request to substantiate that the injury or illness was truly “season ending.”
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http://informedathlete.com/medical-hardship-waivers/
 
I always thought the medical hardship waiver was for one of the 2 years. I have heard of people getting medical hardship waivers and don't necessarily remember them being hurt but once. I could be remembering wrong, though. I'm sure Tim and the school wouldn't even bother apply if they knew he wasn't qualified.

On a side note, techdad, I think we asked you once before if you were Swilling's dad because he played at Furman and you said you did but before Swilling's dad. Didn't Byerly's dad also play for Furman????? :biggrin: Welcome aboard if so! :biggthumpup:
 
BuzzCzar said:
if you play in only the first 2 or 3 games of the season and then are injured you get the medical waiver, typically
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I think this is fairly automatic when you are getting a fifth year of eligibility and the injury qualifies you to count that injury season as a redshirt year. Byerly's situation is a little different because he redshirted at MTSU, then lost a season to transfer, and then played 2 full years before his injury. This season was already the 5th year since enrolling in college. That would make next year his 6th year, and that waiver is not automatic at all. Since he only played 2 years for his whole college career, I'd hope for some generosity from the NCAA.
 
BuzzCzar said:
if you play in only the first 2 or 3 games of the season and then are injured you get the medical waiver, typically


http://informedathlete.com/medical-hardship-waivers/
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But don't forget about the 5-year window you quoted. I found this:

The five-year clock in NCAA Division I is misunderstood by a lot of people. The NCAA’s goal is for every student-athlete who attends a Division I university to have four years to compete in their sport. These student-athletes are allowed a five-year period of time to compete during four years. The most important thing to understand about the five-year clock in NCAA Division I is that is starts once the student-athlete enrolls full-time at any collegiate educational institution [two-year or four-year institution]. Once the five-year clock starts, it does not stop.

Usually it is extremely hard to get the five-year clock extended. There have been cases of student-athletes being granted a sixth year of eligibility, but usually those student-athletes missed two years of competition opportunities because they had documented severe injuries that prevented them from competing.
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http://eligibilitycoach.com/2012/09/ncaa-five-year-clock-2/
 
i was disputing the comment by gtphd that you had to be injured for two years, that is not true

it is true that Byerly's situation is a bit unique bc he HAS used up his 5 years of eligibility, which leads to an unusual situation (as my posted quote implies). you can click the link to see all of the normal rules

but yes, i agree that TBs situation is more convoluted than for a player who has not exhausted his 5-year eligibility. TB has completed his 5 years to play 4, so he needs special consideration
 
BuzzCzar said:
i was disputing the comment by gtphd that you had to be injured for two years, that is not true

it is true that Byerly's situation is a bit unique bc he HAS used up his 5 years of eligibility, which leads to an unusual situation (as my posted quote implies). you can click the link to see all of the normal rules

but yes, i agree that TBs situation is more convoluted than for a player who has not exhausted his 5-year eligibility. TB has completed his 5 years to play 4, so he needs special consideration
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Yep, I was just adding it for better clarification of his situation for others. He did complete his 5 years to play 4, but has only gotten to play 2, so hopefully that will give him the special consideration we need!
 
jacket67 said:
I recall an announcer on a football game mentioning a player somewhere that had gone through 3 senior recognition ceremonies. The third one was due to getting an injury waiver after his senior season ended, but I don't remember why he had the other extra one.
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Yeah, I heard that also. He had a Sr day at his original school and graduated early. So he transferred to another school for 1 more year, but was injured so applied for extra year. He had Sr day before getting ruling. He was granted extra year, so after that year had his 3rd Sr day.

Best I can recall, that was what happened.
 
BuzzCzar said:
i was disputing the comment by gtphd that you had to be injured for two years, that is not true
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I was referencing the hardship waiver to extend eligibility to a 6th year. I read more on it and I was right - you have to show that you were not allowed to compete for 2 seasons for reasons beyond your control.

Injury is the most obvious case for "reasons beyond your control" (and for all we know, Tim came out of HS with an injury, which is why he took a RS), but other arguments can be used. For example, if Tim shows that he wanted to play his true freshman season and MTSU forced him to redshirt, that could count. Also, severe mental trauma (death in the family, PTSD, etc) could be argued if there's a case for it.
 
also, being forced to sit out a year for a transfer could be considered in that scenario since he was injured, redshirted and had to sit out.

i see what you mean now, and TB qualifies imo. it doesnt have to be 2 consecutive years, either, so your scenario is also a good argument

these are the kinds of cases that they review and make a call on, since they dont fit nicely into the typical scenarios

lets hope they lean to the side of "for the student-athlete" instead of against them
 
From what I've heard, Byerly expects to be back and Errin Joe does not.
 
GoGATech said:
I always thought the medical hardship waiver was for one of the 2 years. I have heard of people getting medical hardship waivers and don't necessarily remember them being hurt but once. I could be remembering wrong, though. I'm sure Tim and the school wouldn't even bother apply if they knew he wasn't qualified.

On a side note, techdad, I think we asked you once before if you were Swilling's dad because he played at Furman and you said you did but before Swilling's dad. Didn't Byerly's dad also play for Furman????? :biggrin: Welcome aboard if so! :biggthumpup:
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I played at Furman between Byerly's Dad and Swilling's Dad. My son is Bennett Barton #89 a receiver at GT.
 
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