Is there a way to see a list of names of refs for each game?

BeeStorm

BeeStorm

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After the calls and lack of organization I witnessed in the Samford and BC games, I would like to start comparing lists and finding common denominators.

Anyone now where this data can be acquired?
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Detailed Box Scores normally list the officials, but I don't know anywhere that compiles and indexes the info.

Looking at the box score from Saturday:
http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2007-2008/gt091507.html

We get:
Officials: Referee: T. DeJoseph; Umpire: K. Roden; Linesman: J. Busch;
Line judge: J. Weiland; Back judge: V. Parker; Field judge: J. McGee;
Side judge: R. Boyd; Scorer: G. Campbell;
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Searching on the referee, it would appear these guys are part-timers for the ACC who mostly do lower-division games.

Here is a blog memo to Swofford about them:

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/16/memo-to-the-acc-commissioner/


 
On the back roster card of all the Georgia Tech programs. That's good for home games.
 
Here is official notice given to last weeks officials.

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To: John Swofford

Copy: Doug Rhoads

Subject: If you want to be a real football league

Mr. Swofford, it has become clear in the past several years that you wish to see the ACC join the ranks of the premier conferences in the country in football as well as in basketball. The poaching of the Big East ruined the perfect home and home basketball schedule that had made the ACC so special in hoops for years in return for a supposedly improved football product. Instead, ACC football has been something of a joke as the vaunted Florida teams have fallen apart.

It's not just the play on the field that's been putrid though, it's the entire ACC product - and in particular the complete incompetence of ACC officiating. This is a chronic problem that your office has refused to address, and instead subjected us fans to a number of mind-numbingly poorly officiated games with bizarre calls and complete lack of control over game situations. There's a reason that the two worst onfield brawls in recent years have occurred at ACC stadiums (USC and Clemson in '04, FIU and Miami in '06) - in fact, because of your insistence on using terribly inexperienced and frankly just bad officiating crews, I'm almost surprised that number isn't higher.

This Saturday was a perfect example of the total failure of your office to provide quality referees to ACC games. Early in the day during the Virginia at UNC game, one of the simplest calls in all of football (whether or not a field goal is good) was completely blown when the official responsible for the left upright was looking straight at the ground and ducking instead of tracking the flight of the ball. How the other official under the goalpost also managed to blow the call is inexplicable, short of being blind. Thankfully replay rightfully fixed the mistake, but the fact it was even needed was stunning.

That was just the appetizer though, as the main course of awful officiating came during what should have been a showcase game for the ACC. It's not been very often that you have had the chance to show a game between two top 25 ACC teams in primetime to a national TV audience - so assigning the best officiating crew in the conference would have made sense for the Boston College at Georgia Tech game. Oh, you had to send them to Miami because of your complete failure last year to provide even decent officials for the FIU game.

Instead, the ACC's first chance to shine in the public spotlight this year received a referee crew led by a guy who was doing Division 1 FCS Subdivision (wow, is that a mouthful) and Division 2 games. Nothing against Tom DeJoseph, but there was no reason he should have been the referee for such an important league game - Liberty v. St. Paul is much more his speed. Fans were treated to one of the worst overall officiated games in recent memory, with phantom pass interference and holding calls on both teams that continually stunted any momentum in the game, a blatantly missed replay challenge and a fumble call - thankfully fixed by replay, hooray on the 50% replay accuracy! - when the ball carrier was clearly on the ground. It was clear to everyone on both sidelines, in the stands and on TV that this crew had absolutely no clue what was going and no control over the game. Extracuricular activity on the field? Check. Crowd discontent and trash thrown on the field? Check. Embarrassing display by the ACC again on national TV? Check.

How on earth do you expect anyone to take this conference seriously as a football league when you can't provide the basic functions required of the league office? The ACC is clearly the worst officiated league in the country, and has been for several years - the crap you fed us fans last week was just the tip of the iceberg (ask Clemson and Maryland fans about their game in '06, for example). What is it going to take to fix this problem? An onfield brawl? Check that, a second onfield brawl? Um ... I mean a third onfield brawl?

Your conference has a serious credibility problem, and you need to fix it. NOW.
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QFT. I wish this could get printed on the sports pages or talked about on our non-existent atlanta sports radio.
 
BTW, did you actually see the UVa "missed" field goal? Reading about it, I assumed it was one of those high kicks over the tops of the goal posts, or something at least remotely difficult to call. NOPE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0P9CsUibM

HOW CAN YOU MISS THAT CALL? WTF?
 
Haha.

We need to quit complaining about sidewalk fans and start complaining about sidewalk refs.
 
Whenever a ref makes a call so horrible, a special replay session should be called in which the coaches of both teams and one neutral spectator review the play. If the review crew and the refs are both found to be wrong by this special session, then the offending ref and replay reviewer should be shot at the 30 yard line. On the next kickoff, the ball will be placed in their mouths, and not on a tee.

If they manage to survive the ordeal, then they will be suspended for the remainder of the season without pay and given a thorough examination in the spring to see if they are capable of officiating the next season.

If they do not survive the ordeal, then they will be shipped off to have their bones fashioned into tees and goal posts.

After a year of this policy being in effect, we won't even need replays and coach challenges.
 
Actually they should be hung from the goalposts and left there all season to remind future refs to behave.

Like they used to do with pirates. Arrrr!

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What did pirates ever do that was as grievous as what we saw committed by ACC officials last week?
 
We need lions to feed the refs to, like Christians in Rome.
 
I don't know about where you guys come from...but if I do a piss poor job at work, I get fired. It seems that ACC refs are above this policy.
 
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