I just re-watched all of our 1st half offensive plays...

Is coit saying we need more #2QB?

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coit said:
But I truly believe that JT is not good at reading during the mesh. As a result, we don't run the TO as much as probably CPJ would like.
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I have been saying this since last year. I think the plays develop slower because JT either over-thinks it, or is slow making the reads. Nesbitt could often overcome a bad decision because of his size. Tevin probably was the best at making reads. (That's why he's on staff). It seems that both Vad and JT really don't like contact, and perhaps think rather than react to the split second decision.

Against most teams, JT's quickness can compensate for the bad read, but not against really good and speedy defenses.
 
coit said:
Well yeah, that's really what I meant. That CPJ would want to run it more, but we don't execute it well.

Before the season there was a thread about the best players to run the CPJ system. I suggested that a pure TO guy like Jaybo might've been better suited for the offense and of course got crucified. JT is a great athlete, playmaker and all around warrior. But he has some issues in running the TO. We've had some other guys come through the system that always had a knack at generating positive yards through correct reads.
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I agree. JT is probably the best we have had on the pitch though. He isn't afraid to wait til the last second and take a hit. I think that is why some of the speed option type plays we run usually work well. He can get out on the edge and it is just a 2 man game, no dive read.
 
ramblin' wagon said:
I think that is why some of the speed option type plays we run usually work well. He can get out on the edge and it is just a 2 man game, no dive read.
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Against teams not named Clempson and Notre Dame anyway.
 
coit said:
If the DE crashes down on our tackle, then the tackle should block him. If the DE penetrates to contain the QB, the tackle should chip him enough to slow him down, then go second level. This is not from any book necessarily but the way I have always coached OL for running plays.
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This is exactly what I'm saying. On TO, the DE was crashing to the dive. We left him unblocked regardless of what he was doing. You "can" leave him unblocked if he is crashing, and the qb read is to pull, but if you are going to do this, your tackle has to make the block on the OLB, which he was missing. If we cant make that block, we're better off blocking the crashing DE and that should open up the dive more.
 
I'm blaming our graduate assistant coach Tevin Washington for all our offensive problems.
 
Due to Vad and JT's throwing ability, I feel like CPJ abandons running the offense quicker, and goes to our sometimes on, sometimes off passing game. With Tevin and Nesbitt, we just stuck with the run game and CPJ would figure out the nuances and add wrinkles to exploit.

Since he has been abandoning the run so early in games like last night, it takes too long to adjust to how they are playing the TO. We finally had success in the 2nd half on the one TD drive, just running the offense.

We were passing too much on 1st down which had us behind schedule on 3rd down on most drives.
 
GoGATech said:
This is exactly what I'm saying. On TO, the DE was crashing to the dive. We left him unblocked regardless of what he was doing. You "can" leave him unblocked if he is crashing, and the qb read is to pull, but if you are going to do this, your tackle has to make the block on the OLB, which he was missing. If we cant make that block, we're better off blocking the crashing DE and that should open up the dive more.
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Well I think this is the change that teams have been able to make defensively. We don't have that ability to exploit it with the personnel we have.
 
Scorpionwingz said:
Due to Vad and JT's throwing ability, I feel like CPJ abandons running the offense quicker, and goes to our sometimes on, sometimes off passing game. With Tevin and Nesbitt, we just stuck with the run game and CPJ would figure out the nuances and add wrinkles to exploit.

Since he has been abandoning the run so early in games like last night, it takes too long to adjust to how they are playing the TO. We finally had success in the 2nd half on the one TD drive, just running the offense.

We were passing too much on 1st down which had us behind schedule on 3rd down on most drives.
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Well, ya know, it would help if your blockers were getting their guys on those 1st half runs. As much öööö as I talk about him I still know he's for more knowledge about how to run an offense than oh I'll have JT throw and öööö up our running momentum. We had 0 anything momentum in the first half.
 
Makes me wonder if our experienced backs of two years ago helped on the mesh. As in took the ball hard when appropriate, passively held the ball when not.
 
GoGATech said:
Yes I am obviously a glutton for punishment. I just had to go back and watch and see if we were really that out-matched, if they out schemed us, or if we just suck at blocking. I watched it all from the skycam on watchespn so I could watch the line. For the most part, we absolutely suck at blocking. I don't see how in the world we can't block any better than this. It's like we don't know who to block, or are being taught to block the wrong people. We let so many people go free, and when we do try to make a block, it's a complete miss. Not just diving at ankles, we can just completely miss a guy. How the hell can you not hit someone head up and at least slow his path, disrupt his rhythm, or give your guys a half-second chance. I don't know all the intricacies of our plays, so my play call names are a bit vanilla, but this is my breakdown of the 1st half offense, and what we did:

1st possession:
1st & 10 - Triple option right, #42 DE is unblocked by the line, #26 Mills whiffs block on him, he is basically untouched to JT5 for a 4yd loss.
2nd & 14 - Speed option (?) left, 2 lead blockers and both leave #6 unblocked, JT5 still gets 3yd gain.
3rd & 11 - False start #70 Will Bryan
3rd & 16 - Pass, #22 Lynch whiffs a cut block on #42 DE. JT5 has room to cut back to middle if not pressured by 42, forced to throw away.

2nd possession:
1st & 10 - Pass, incomplete. Slight pressure on JT5 but running lane left-middle was open with running room.
2nd & 10 - Triple option right, trailing DE #99 unblocked, MLB beats #71 Devine's block, pitch man covered, no gain.
3rd & 10 - Pass, #94 gets through a block and gets pressure, corner blitz also coming, JT5 sacked. Would have been lots of room outside to run/elude pressure if corner blitz had not been coming. Good defensive playcall.

3rd possession:
1st & 10 - Option left, #75 misses block on #94, still 3yd gain for #34 Marshall. Cutback lane was open.
2nd & 7 - Triple option left, #56 unblocked, bad read on dive, outside appeared to be more open. #34 Marshall 1yd gain.
3rd & 6 - Pass to #1 Searcy, good pocket, receiver open, good throw, safety hits Searcy early, pass interference. Good call and 15yd penalty but would have most likely been a 21yd reception had Searcy not been hit early.
1st & 10 - Toss left, #6 pushes off two chicken wing blocks, makes tackle. 2yd gain, bad spot. Looked to be more like a 4yd gain.
2nd & 8 - Triple option left, bad read, #34 Marshall would've gotten 4-5 yd easily on the dive, pitch to #3 Willis no gain.
3rd & 8 - Screen pass to Marshall. Good playcall, defended fairly well, but Marshall should've stayed right behind his blockers instead of cutting back left across field. Would have had manageable 4th down yardage, instead only a 1yd gain.

4th possession:
1st & 10 - Counter option right, #22 Lynch looks like he should be blocking #6, #70 Bryan doesn't kick #45 DE out. Either QB keep or pitch would've been open if one of those blocks are made. QB keep for 1 yd gain.
2nd & 9 - Counter trap/off tackle left to #26 Mills. 1st time we see this play and it worked all night. 8yd gain.
3rd & 1 - Give to #26 Mills, right side, 2yd gain.
1st & 10 - Triple option right, #65 Klock releases DE, whiffs on block on LB #34 which forces early pitch, #3 Willis whiffs on block on the edge or the pitch would have been a positive gain. Loss of 4 yds.
2nd & 14 - Pass, backside OLB #6 comes in unblocked, forces JT5 to roll and throws pass for -3yds that should have been thrown OB. #2 Jeune appeared to be curling back open had JT5 had time to set his feet and throw.
3rd & 17 - Pass, back shoulder throw to #2 Jeune, well defended but could've been caught. JT5 had a mile to run and could've easily made a manageable 4th down that we would likely have gone for if he didn't get the 1st.

5th possession:
1st & 10 - Swing pass to #1 Searcy, low throw incomplete. Got lucky on this one. Appeared to be a backwards pass. Probably would've been a no gain play had Searcy caught it unless he made someone miss.
2nd & 10 - Counter/trap off tackle right. Worked again. 4 yd gain. Looked like more, another questionable spot.
3rd & 6 - Pass, #42 DE beats a block, #1 Searcy whiffs on #6, pressure on JT5, throw away incomplete.

Out of all of that, I only saw 3, maybe 4 guys actually "out physical" us or beat or blocks. Everything else was a complete miss by us, or someone we left completely unblocked.
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Ass hole. Do the second half for better results. Just like class.
 
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