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white&gold

white&gold

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Can we please discuss how bad the coaching is right now, and the future of the program, without getting banned?

Tired of watching our team get embarrassed by good teams. I want so bad to believe in CPJ because he has taken us to good places before. But this is so painful....

We should be able to openly discuss the lack of talent and coaching on the OL, and the overall poor coaching, without getting banned.
 
white&gold said:
Can we please discuss how bad the coaching is right now, and the future of the program, without getting banned?

Tired of watching our team get embarrassed by good teams. I want so bad to believe in CPJ because he has taken us to good places before. But this is so painful....

We should be able to openly discuss the lack of talent and coaching on the OL, and the overall poor coaching, without getting banned.
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Fire Mike Sewak!

Our special teams look Great!

We actually pass the ball pretty well.

Sometimes Paul calls it like a Genius some times like a PC. 4 & 2 with the game one the line & Paul calls a pass? He must have thought he was at Blackburg?
 
How many stupid penalties, disorganized timeouts, boneheaded plays, and turnovers does a team have to commit before PJ will realize that we're not a "football smart" team. How do you coach game IQ?
 
white&gold said:
Can we please discuss how bad the coaching is right now, and the future of the program, without getting banned?

Tired of watching our team get embarrassed by good teams. I want so bad to believe in CPJ because he has taken us to good places before. But this is so painful....

We should be able to openly discuss the lack of talent and coaching on the OL, and the overall poor coaching, without getting banned.
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Aren't good teams supposed to embarrass us? I mean it is not like we just lost to Kansas State or something.
 
In college, 75% of coaching is recruiting. The rest of the ACC is improving the quality of its players so quickly, that our offensive system is no longer able to produce wins like it once did. I don't think this will last much longer. I don't think our new AD is going to be content with losing seasons. Thank goodness we now have a Tech man in that job.
 
Miami's not a good team. GT just sucks and as usual they bring a knife to a gunfight when it comes to recruiting the type of athletes that the opponents recruit. Thanks to The Hill for another great season!
 
I guarantee the new AD is taking notes, making phone calls, and putting a plan in place. Johnson's days are numbered if things don't turn around now, not later this year and not next season. Why do you think he took over running the offense in practice the same time we hired Stansbury? Johnson became complacent.
 
TechRush said:
Honestly I think CPJ's system is best for Tech. It is painful to see the stupid penalties and mistakes, things Tech cannot afford to make. 7-5 looks good now.
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I try to believe that, but then I remember when we had a team with Calvin Johnson, Derrick Thomas, Michael Johnson, Tashard Choice, Vance Walker, etc. We act like it's impossible to attract good players to Tech. It's not impossible, challenging sure, but not impossible. We don't HAVE to run a gimmick offense to find success every 6 years.
 
Honestly how long do you guys think it would take to become competitive again if we fired everybody and brought in a new system? It would be chaos for a few years till a coach could recruit the players for his system.
 
BigDanT said:
Honestly how long do you guys think it would take to become competitive again if we fired everybody and brought in a new system? It would be chaos for a few years till a coach could recruit the players for his system.
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5 years and 2 coaches.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
I try to believe that, but then I remember when we had a team with Calvin Johnson, Derrick Thomas, Michael Johnson, Tashard Choice, Vance Walker, etc. We act like it's impossible to attract good players to Tech. It's not impossible, challenging sure, but not impossible. We don't HAVE to run a gimmick offense to find success every 6 years.
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What was our record when we had those players?

Let's play what if. Lets say we were lucky enough to pick the right highly touted coordinator like say, Tom Hermann.

How long would he stay here if he had success, how many recruiting classes would we get?

Thats if we pick the right one, what are the odds we get another Hermann rather than another Muschamp?
 
I'm not sure when these halcyon days are that we weren't "embarrassed by good teams." At least by the standard used here.

From what I remember, the other names for this job were Neuheisel, Edsall and (according to rumors) Muschamp. All three were hired as HC's at other jobs and all three were fired. Muschamp hired Weis as his OC and I knew right then he wasn't going to be successful. For Neuheisel, UCLA went 7-6 and 6-7 years before and then he went 4-8, 7-6, 4-8 and 6-8.

Dirty Jacket said:
I try to believe that, but then I remember when we had a team with Calvin Johnson, Derrick Thomas, Michael Johnson, Tashard Choice, Vance Walker, etc. We act like it's impossible to attract good players to Tech. It's not impossible, challenging sure, but not impossible. We don't HAVE to run a gimmick offense to find success every 6 years.
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Calvin Johnson should have been drafted first overall and would have been a rare talent even for most factories, much less GT.

But for the other players, there were 9 players drafted from 2012 to 2016 (assuming 2008 starts CPJ's classes). 14 players were drafted 2007 to 2011. Both periods were five years long. The 2007-11 period included Anthony Allen, who transferred while CPJ was coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgia_Tech_Yellow_Jackets_in_the_NFL_Draft
 
BigDanT said:
Honestly how long do you guys think it would take to become competitive again if we fired everybody and brought in a new system? It would be chaos for a few years till a coach could recruit the players for his system.
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Then why was it not chaos for a few years when Pepper & CPJ were brought in and they had to coach players not recruited for their system?

It might be, but nobody can say.

Truly believe, however, that this system on O (and the overlapping impact on D) automatically reduces our recruiting pool due to the number of academically qualified players that take us off their list due to our O system.

Refuse to believe there is not a football version of a Bobby Cremins out there.
 
Triple option offenses are often used to try and offset a talent gap. When you come in and there are good athletes in place, they can learn the offense and be very successful - like Myers and Sims with Raible and Robinson when Pepper arrived and like Nesbitt, Thomas and Dwyer when CPJ came in. The problem is getting players of that caliber to come in to run the offense and signing players only suited to that offense. When the option coach leaves, the cupboard is usually bare for implementing a more conventional offense.
 
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