CFB Playoffs

[GTCrew4b]

If the ACC hadn’t laid an egg out of conference to start the year we would have a better argument for getting two teams in. But we were a little slow out of the gate.

If NC State and GT had won and GT Beat UCF I could see the argument to let multiple ACC teams into the playoff if other champs had 2-losses vs the ACC runner-up’s 1

 

[GT flunkout]

If the ACC hadn’t laid an egg out of conference to start the year we would have a better argument for getting two teams in. But we were a little slow out of the gate.

If NC State and GT had won and GT Beat UCF I could see the argument to let multiple ACC teams into the playoff if other champs had 2-losses vs the ACC runner-up’s 1

Wrong. Nobody cares about any of that. Clemson beat Auburn. Miami beat Notre Dame. Nobody is holding GT's loss to Tennessee or Florida State's loss to Bama against Miami or Clemson. The SEC is hot garbage. Nobody is holding that against Georgia or Bama or Auburn.

Clemson lost to Syracuse and the collective response from everybody was an emphatic "meh still top 4".

If anything all talk about any conference superiority has been entirely muted this year. It's kind of refreshing. Which is one reason any talk of a 2 loss team getting in over a one-loss team seems extremely unlikely.

 

[GTsapper]

If neither GA nor Bama lose until the SEC championship game and the dwags win that then we'll have 2 teams from the same conference this year. We all know the first 2-team conference will be the SEC. No other conference measures up, or so I'm told.

Georgia would get absolutely demolished against Bama in the SEC Title game. They're a one-trick pony. The whole world saw that.

 

[Yukonwreck]

There just shouldn’t be 2 teams from the same conference. Defeats the purpose of crowning a conference champion.

The selection committee has given lip service to the conference championship being very important---unless Ohio State isn't a conference champion.

 

[GBurdell]

Except Auburn is going to be the SEC champ. Then what? 2 loss SEC champ in? What if Clemson beats Miami, both of 1 loss, and Auburn wins the SEC as a 2 loss team?

yep. i hope for mass chaos. then the comedy of the "committee" justifying their selection of the teams that they want in the playoffs. Nothing has changed with the stupid playoff system except the new facade.

 

[JJacket]

Georgia would get absolutely demolished against Bama in the SEC Title game. They're a one-trick pony. The whole world saw that.

I bet you expected Alabama to destroy Mississippi State this weekend too. If Mississippi State can take Alabama to the wire, the UGAg is capable of beating Alabama

 

[gtrower]

The selection committee has given lip service to the conference championship being very important---unless Ohio State isn't a conference champion.

But that still kind of fits with the narrative - the committee just picked their own conference champion. We can debate that as well because I see your point, but there shouldn’t be 2 teams from the same conference regardless. Even if it’s ours. If there are 2 teams from one conference good enough to be in consideration for the Top 4, then at some point they would have played each other and the winner should get to go. Ideally that would happen in the CCG. So the obvious fix for me is that we need a better way of picking a conference champion.

 

[Rodzilla]

If Clemson loses the ACCCG, they're not in the playoffs, period. They'll have two losses, one of which was to Syracuse.

If Miami loses the ACCCG, they're not in the playoffs just because the committee won't have the balls to put in two teams from one conference.

 

[JJacket]

If Clemson loses the ACCCG, they're not in the playoffs, period. They'll have two losses, one of which was to Syracuse.

If Miami loses the ACCCG, they're not in the playoffs just because the committee won't have the balls to put in two teams from one conference.

Both teams, IMO, are faced with having to win out.

I think the following will happen at the end of the day
1) Alabama
2) Miami
3) Wisconsin
4) Oklahoma

Alabama beats Oklahoma in a blowout
Miami beats Winconsin in a blowout

Miami claws and scratches out an improbable win against Alabama

UGAg tears flow

The ACC wins another title

Da U is back baby! The ACC is considered top conference next season as FSU reloads, Clemson reloads, Miami reloads, and GT is already loaded (look at everyone on the two deep coming back!)

The ACC runs away with the title for the 2018 season. Florida crushes UGAg restoring order in the SEC East. Tennessee becomes a competitive program again. GT wins its 3rd in a row against UGAg and makes it 4/5 in the series.

 

[WracerX]

Auburn would have a strong case if Clemson makes the playoffs, since one of their two losses would be to Clemson.

A 2 loss Clemson would have a case to go in over SEC champ Auburn. But the committee showed head to head was meaningless last year.

 

[JJacket]

A 2 loss Clemson would have a case to go in over SEC champ Auburn. But the committee showed head to head was meaningless last year.

Read the part of your sentence that has SEC in it.

 

[18in32]

yep. i hope for mass chaos. then the comedy of the "committee" justifying their selection of the teams that they want in the playoffs. Nothing has changed with the stupid playoff system except the new facade.

You're right that the 'eye-test' still matters way too much. But you're wrong that nothing's changed — now four teams get a chance at the end, instead of just two. That's a freaking huge change.

 

[18in32]

If Miami loses the ACCCG, they're not in the playoffs just because the committee won't have the balls to put in two teams from one conference.

No, I don't think that's why. They wouldn't let Miami in because Miami just lost to Clemson in the ACCCG. They had their chance at season end to show they were better than Clemson and they failed. No playoff for you.

But if Clemson and FSU had played Week 1, and if Clemson won the game and went on to win the ACC, they might put FSU in if it only had that one loss. The timing of the loss is huge.

(Just like in the old days of the polls: 11-1 with an early loss was better than 11-1 with a late loss. I always hated that, but it's a similar human tendency as the one that makes us blame a last-second missed FG for the loss, rather than the missed FG in the first quarter.)

 

[eg1]

No, I don't think that's why. They wouldn't let Miami in because Miami just lost to Clemson in the ACCCG. They had their chance at season end to show they were better than Clemson and they failed. No playoff for you.

But if Clemson and FSU had played Week 1, and if Clemson won the game and went on to win the ACC, they might put FSU in if it only had that one loss. The timing of the loss is huge.

(Just like in the old days of the polls: 11-1 with an early loss was better than 11-1 with a late loss. I always hated that, but it's a similar human tendency as the one that makes us blame a last-second missed FG for the loss, rather than the missed FG in the first quarter.)

recency bias

 

[18in32]

relcem

recency bias

That makes it sound scientific

 

[olgoldandwhite]

Supposedly the premise of the committee was to pick the four best teams with conference champions as one of the criteria. Clemson as champs and a one loss Miami then Clemson would be a shoo in. If Auburn wins and Wisconsin loses, it could be argued that Miami’s resume is better than anyone’s. The U would have drubbed the committees #3 team. Not many can say that.

 

[GTsapper]

I bet you expected Alabama to destroy Mississippi State this weekend too. If Mississippi State can take Alabama to the wire, the UGAg is capable of beating Alabama

No, I didn't. Because Bama struggles with running quarterbacks. Fromm is AJ McCarron with slightly better legs. Bama has seen that before.

 

[GoldZ]

Bama sans DL injuries galore would kill ugag. dawgs suffered from beating nobodies + ND (which everybody knows is a nobody+). Auburn was a shock to their system that they had no experience handling. If UT & UF had of been up to par, then ugag might have still beaten them and the Auburn game would have likely been different (at least not a rout). I've watched Auburn all year and they played far better against ugag than at any other time this year---exception or new reality? The same Auburn OL that dominated ugag gave up ELEVEN sacks vs Clemson and struggled mightily vs LSU.

The Kentucky (who is much better than norm) game will help determine the exception/new reality question.