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daBuzz

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"Make money" by living like a pauper? They sure can. Obviously it is harder to live extremely pauper because some of the benefits are not cash, like food at the Edge.
*sigh* Great job trying to nitpick and missing the frigging forest for the trees.
The point I was making was that some of the benefits or options available to the common academic student are not available to the student athlete and are, in fact, prohibited. But by all means, please keep trying to determine what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
 

GTCrew

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*sigh* Great job trying to nitpick and missing the frigging forest for the trees.
The point I was making was that some of the benefits or options available to the common academic student are not available to the student athlete and are, in fact, prohibited. But by all means, please keep trying to determine what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
Both of your examples were students milking benefits, not students working a job during college.

Which athletes can and do do, (job) except during their season.

Its a moot point IMHO. How many real university students actually work during college anymore?

How many hours does an athlete spend a week on their sport? I'd be curious to see the value of the scholarship and then calculate what they get paid per hour.
 

18in32

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We could only work during the summer months and the jobs were arranged and approved through the GTAA. We were told one reason is so that rich alumni could not employ SA's at high wages for little work and be in violation of NCAA recruiting rules to get and keep athletes.
Yes I agree but that rationale applies equally to in season or out of season jobs so doesn’t explain the differential in treatment.
 

gtrower

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Well, I have two friends who actually made money going to school because of the amounts of their scholarships. One did it both as an undergrad at Emory and then as a grad student with a fellowship for his EE masters at Clemson.

And if you think players are over compensated, especially football players, I'm just gonna go out on a limb and guess you probably weren't a college athlete, LOL.
I was a college athlete. It’s the main premise of why I don’t think they should be paid. But agree with your point about athletes not being “over-compensated.” They were given an offer and are likely there because of that offer. They likely would have gone elsewhere if given a better offer. That means it’s an appropriate amount of compensation.
 

GTCrew

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A lot? I worked 30-50+ hrs/week almost the entire time I was at Tech, and had lots of friends who did too.
Bullshit you worked over 50 hours a week as an undergrad at GT. Bullshit.

I can only think of 2 who worked. One of whom took 7 years partly because of that.
 

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We could only work during the summer months and the jobs were arranged and approved through the GTAA. We were told one reason is so that rich alumni could not employ SA's at high wages for little work and be in violation of NCAA recruiting rules to get and keep athletes.
When Artis Gilmore was at Jacksonville he reportedly had a summer job thru a booster that paid $$$$ mucho dinero for not showing up.
 

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Bullshit you worked over 50 hours a week as an undergrad at GT. Bullshit.

I can only think of 2 who worked. One of whom took 7 years partly because of that.
So no undergrad at GT is capable of working a job and attending GT?
 

daBuzz

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I was a college athlete. It’s the main premise of why I don’t think they should be paid. But agree with your point about athletes not being “over-compensated.” They were given an offer and are likely there because of that offer. They likely would have gone elsewhere if given a better offer. That means it’s an appropriate amount of compensation.
Same here but I left Tech to go play baseball in south Georgia. Our schedule was pretty rigorous but it was nothing compared to what the football players at GT are doing.
 

GTCrew

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So no undergrad at GT is capable of working a job and attending GT?
Nobody is working 50 hours a week and carrying a full load at GT. If someone pulls off a job where they get paid to sit around and study, maybe, but nobody is working 50 hours a week and passing.

And certainly not "a bunch of people". Thats ridiculous.
 

daBuzz

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Both of your examples were students milking benefits, not students working a job during college.

Which athletes can and do do, (job) except during their season.

Its a moot point IMHO. How many real university students actually work during college anymore?

How many hours does an athlete spend a week on their sport? I'd be curious to see the value of the scholarship and then calculate what they get paid per hour.
Well, NCAA are limited to a maximum of 20 countable hours of activities per week with a maximum of 4 hours in a single day. Countable events are stuff like practice, meetings, non-voluntary workouts or non-voluntary game film stuff as well. But since they're limited to 20, EVERY coach uses all 20 hours per week. And it should be noted that even mandatory study halls do not count as a countable activity. For most freshmen, study halls are mandatory. Depending on the coach and/or the academic standing of the student, upper class athletes may or may not have mandatory study halls.
 

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Nobody is working 50 hours a week and carrying a full load at GT. If someone pulls off a job where they get paid to sit around and study, maybe, but nobody is working 50 hours a week and passing.

And certainly not "a bunch of people". Thats ridiculous.
Bullshit they aren't. Even though I "only" went to SPSU, I worked all the time, including almost every Saturday and Sunday, to make ends meet.
 

GTCrew

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Bullshit they aren't. Even though I "only" went to SPSU, I worked all the time, including almost every Saturday and Sunday, to make ends meet.
That is adorable that you think the school workloads are remotely comparable.
 

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That is adorable that you think the school workloads are remotely comparable.
It is adorable when you think you worked so much harder than anyone at any other school.
 
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