Should the ACC Champ Game be renamed the Lonely Bowl?

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Just curious on peoples' opinions on the 'desolate' feel of the crowd at the ACC Championship game.

And I'm serious about considering the renaming.
 
It needs to move, that's the real issue. No reason for this game to be in FL.
 
Until the ACC rights itself, the game should be played at the home stadium of the Top Team (however Mack Brown chooses to pick the top team in a conference).

It happens so quickly, people have no time to make good plans...it's always going to be a problem. Always. You can bet your house that when the game moves to Charlotte, that Miami and FSU will be in it.

Everything has to be perfect to get an exciting sold out matchup. Just put the game on one teams' home field, offer 20,000 tickets to the #2 team initially and then sell what's left in the last three or four days.

The ACCCG is NEVER EVER going to be an exciting sold out game. The teams could be #1 and #2 but the odds are poor that it will sell out. Atlanta has a huge advantage in that 7 SEC teams are within 4 hours and it's a big city full of potential fans.

Charlotte has 7 teams within 4 hours too, but it's 1/2 Atlanta's size so the local pent up demand isn't as good. Plus it's outdoors instead of indoors, further hurting sidewalk locals.

The Big 12 championship game is not a big sellout either. The ACC should be smart and just put the game in the best team's home field. Build excitement, build some longevity of excitement, then consider moving to a central hub.
 
I think playing the game at the field of the highest ranked team is also the best thing to do. If the ACC can establish itself as the pre-eminent conference in college football, then they can go after neutral fields where Swofford pleases. Until then, you're going to get 15,000 people in a 50,000 stadium and the ACC will continue to get ridiculed.
 
If it's played at a home stadium, then the ACC can't sell tickets beforehand.

The game just needs to be in Charlotte, a stadium 80% of ACC fans can drive to. It would suck to have an FSU-Miami game in Charlotte, but as we've seen that won't happen most years.
 
How about capitalizing on it? Maybe Al Gore could get people to buy carbon credits from the ACC. Every empty seat is credit for someone not traveling to the game. The conference would make a fortune. Or we just need the right sponsor. Maybe the "Prozac ACC Championship" or the "Lazy-Boy ACC Championship".
 
floridajacket said:
If it's played at a home stadium, then the ACC can't sell tickets beforehand.
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I hadn't though about that, but no matter how pathetic the turn out is, the ACC itself will make for itself at a neutral site. It makes perfect sense now. Throw in the fact that there's not too many corporate boxes and there's muddled naming rights issues, and I can see exactly why something as sane and well thought out would be rejected. Money.
 
Put the game in Charlotte and it will do just fine. VT would have brought 3x as many fans to a game there. Heaven forbid if Clemson or UNC ever make the ACCCG in Charlotte, we'd be talking about a sellout for sure.

Outside of FSU and Miami there is zero interest in the ACC in the state of FL.
 
Outside of MIA and BC...

WracerX said:
Put the game in Charlotte and it will do just fine. VT would have brought 3x as many fans to a game there. Heaven forbid if Clemson or UNC ever make the ACCCG in Charlotte, we'd be talking about a sellout for sure.

Outside of FSU and Miami there is zero interest in the ACC in the state of FL.
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I think this game would be a sellout no matter who plays if in Charlotte.
 
Build a 50,000 seat stadium is Charleston, SC. It will be small enough to sell out. Its centrally located (the U and BC don't count). There is a ton of Golf and bars in Charleston area. No competition from other events. Its a coastal town so people will take long weekends even if its cold.

To pay for it:
-Add a bowl game to this venue
-Rent out to college, pro, HS championships
-Take % of ACC BCS money
-make city of Charleston contribute
 
The ACC as it exists today is bad for fans that travel, and the circumstances are only made worse by the 1 to 2 week notice for the ACCCG most years. The ACC is laid out in one long line and it sucks hard to travel to games for any of the schools outside of North Carolina. Team with best record (or winner of coin flip in tie) gets home field advantage. Most ACC schools don't sellout anyways so should be able to give the visiting team a reasonable allotment and if it becomes a "hard" ticket to get then all the better.
 
floridajacket said:
If it's played at a home stadium, then the ACC can't sell tickets beforehand.

The game just needs to be in Charlotte, a stadium 80% of ACC fans can drive to. It would suck to have an FSU-Miami game in Charlotte, but as we've seen that won't happen most years.
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Why is this important? How many tickets do they sell today? Certainly the sponsors want tickets but I heard that Dr. Pepper is pissed about sponsoring the ACCCG. How does that help any?

The game lacks star power right now. The SECCG in Atlanta is unique; they have all the built in advantages to be successful. The ACC does not, so stop trying to be something we're not.

5000 Tech fans will go to the ACCCG in Charlotte on short notice. Mark it down. The game will not sell out unless its Clemson or maybe NCS. The same will hold true with FSU and Miami. So every few decades when you get Clemson-VPI, or Clemson-UNC, the game will sell out. Wow, lots of fun.
 
Build a giant, floating stadium off Cape Hatteras, and feed the loser to the sharks.
 
Charlotte has no other MAJOR college sporting event there at all during the year. It will get a lot of local ticket sales just because the ACCCG is the ONLY big sporting event there every year. I went to the Mieneke Car Care Bowl there. It was cold and rainy and it seemed to have a better turnout than the CFA bowl, or at least just as good. If it doesn't rain, it's a full house. And thats a crappy bowl between WVU and UNC. Imagine FSU, Clemson, or NC State (huge fan base for some reason?) vs. VT, GT or Clemson in a major stakes game. That's a massive draw! Also, they need to hope for there to not be re-matches.

Plus it's a SWEET stadium and a FUN town. Just as much nightlife at Atlanta, and a lot less homeless and crime.
 
GTMensLax&SoccerD1Soon! said:
Charlotte has no other MAJOR college sporting event there at all during the year. It will get a lot of local ticket sales just because the ACCCG is the ONLY big sporting event there every year. I went to the Mieneke Car Care Bowl there. It was cold and rainy and it seemed to have a better turnout than the CFA bowl, or at least just as good. If it doesn't rain, it's a full house. And thats a crappy bowl between WVU and UNC. Imagine FSU, Clemson, or NC State (huge fan base for some reason?) vs. VT, GT or Clemson in a major stakes game. That's a massive draw! Also, they need to hope for there to not be re-matches.

Plus it's a SWEET stadium and a FUN town. Just as much nightlife at Atlanta, and a lot less homeless and crime.
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I bolded the reason that there were a lot of people at that bowl for you.
 
Charlotte ticket sales would be pretty good for most any ACC matchup IMO. But even if it didn't sell out it would be far better than any of the FL games have been. And if Tech didn't sell more than 5000 tickets to an ACCCG in Charlotte, we should just keep the team home as well midatlanta. I think Tech would sell well in Charlotte.
 
midatlantech said:
Until the ACC rights itself, the game should be played at the home stadium of the Top Team (however Mack Brown chooses to pick the top team in a conference).

It happens so quickly, people have no time to make good plans...it's always going to be a problem. Always. You can bet your house that when the game moves to Charlotte, that Miami and FSU will be in it.

Everything has to be perfect to get an exciting sold out matchup. Just put the game on one teams' home field, offer 20,000 tickets to the #2 team initially and then sell what's left in the last three or four days.

The ACCCG is NEVER EVER going to be an exciting sold out game. The teams could be #1 and #2 but the odds are poor that it will sell out. Atlanta has a huge advantage in that 7 SEC teams are within 4 hours and it's a big city full of potential fans.

Charlotte has 7 teams within 4 hours too, but it's 1/2 Atlanta's size so the local pent up demand isn't as good. Plus it's outdoors instead of indoors, further hurting sidewalk locals.

The Big 12 championship game is not a big sellout either. The ACC should be smart and just put the game in the best team's home field. Build excitement, build some longevity of excitement, then consider moving to a central hub.
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I agree. However, I don't mind rotating between the Coastal and Atlantic divisions each year for more advance in planning.

The only problem with this is that the ACCCG is not really about determining a champion, just like the BCS. Its about making money for the league. And if you put the game on campus, you can guarantee the host is going to want most of that money.
 
JWE37 said:
Build a 50,000 seat stadium is Charleston, SC. It will be small enough to sell out. Its centrally located (the U and BC don't count). There is a ton of Golf and bars in Charleston area. No competition from other events. Its a coastal town so people will take long weekends even if its cold.

To pay for it:
-Add a bowl game to this venue
-Rent out to college, pro, HS championships
-Take % of ACC BCS money
-make city of Charleston contribute
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I would be there every year...all the way from Pensacola Beach...regardless of whether GT was in it. Charleston, SC is the best place in the US!
 
ncjacket said:
It needs to move, that's the real issue. No reason for this game to be in FL.
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other than the weather in December,and if FSU or Miami or both were to get in.
Charlotte would be great but I don't think Boston College against Miami, or Tech against Maryland in Charlotte would draw any better than VPI-BC did in Tampa. It is somewhat of a crapshoot. If you could predict a North Carolina v. Clempsen match up in Charlotte or Raliegh it would be great. The league has not been very lucky with the divisional winners since the ACCCG was created.
 
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