Am I The Only One Worried That Next Year Might Be Worse?

gmlane said:
This is going back a few pages of the thread to people talking about our reliance on Nesbitt...

If I remember right, Tevin Washington absolutely dominated in spring practice. A whole year of practice under is belt, I could see him competing for playing time.

Throw in Jordan Luallen, who won a state championship this year running the triple option, and I think we have plenty of depth at QB:

Josh Nesbitt
Tevin Washington
Jaybo Shaw
Jordan Luallen
Bryce Dykes
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Tevin is likely to be moved to AB or WR. Bryce Dykes will not see the field at all.

Jordan Luallen will have his hands full battling David Sims and Dontae Aycock for the #3 spot.

btw...Jordan ran very little TO...they were primarily wing-T...but at least he was under center and not in shotgun.

Dontae Aycock ran more true option and was also under center. Phenomenal runner. He can take it to the house on any play.

David Sims was more West Virginia/Florida style out of the shotgun but did throw for 2500, ran for 1500, and accounted for 63 TD's in just his senior season.
 
hiveredtech said:
Tevin is likely to be moved to AB or WR. Bryce Dykes will not see the field at all.

Jordan Luallen will have his hands full battling David Sims and Dontae Aycock for the #3 spot.

btw...Jordan ran very little TO...they were primarily wing-T...but at least he was under center and not in shotgun.

Dontae Aycock ran more true option and was also under center. Phenomenal runner. He can take it to the house on any play.

David Sims was more West Virginia/Florida style out of the shotgun but did throw for 2500, ran for 1500, and accounted for 63 TD's in just his senior season.
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So, you're making the assumption that Aycock will definitely commit. I sure hope so. I think this will give us enough QB depth in the future to do anything CPJ wants. I can't even fathom having more than one capable QB! :)
 
I look for the offense to make strides forward next year. My concern lies that we may have to win shootouts given the losses in the trenches on defense.

If my suspicions are true I may need heart meds to watch a lot of games with scores like 45 - 42.

Did I mention 45 - 42?

THWG
 
PJ's first year at GSU — playoff team after team went 4-7 previous season.
PJ's second year at GSU — 14-1, lost in national championship game.
PJ's first year at Navy — brutal schedule.
PJ's second year at Navy — Bowl team.

With more depth next year and a full year of the plan in place, this is going to be one scary team. Woe be unto the ACC and the SEC teams who wish to challenge PJ and the Yellow Jackets next year.
I'm not that concerned about the DL — Morgan is back, Peters and Hall got a lot of PT this year and T.J. Barnes (all 6-7 and 300-plus pounds of him) redshirted this year. That dude is hoooge.
 
Oh, and don't think for a minute that, while the players are going through offseason workouts, that an endless loop of LSU's fake punt and long bombs in the fourth quarter won't be playing on a wall nearby for them to see.
 
swampsting said:
Woe be unto the ACC and the SEC teams who wish to challenge PJ and the Yellow Jackets next year.
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That's the kind of talk the worries me. Only because no mediocre teams are better at ruining the season of good teams better than mediocre ACC teams *cough UVa cough*.

However, if things go well we won't even give them a chance. :fingersx:
 
And especially when the good team in question has hype, every ACC team likes to be homewrecker to a hyped team (cue BC slapping FSU out of the ACCCG)
 
I think you're a crazy idiot, but I have no idea how you got this way.

Seriously? We peaked???
 
GTLiebs said:
He has also historically had abysmal first years. Now granted still having a proportional jump is completely possible, but it's also possible that the way things went this year is similar to his second year at other schools.

I will say this though, if Coach Johnson takes us to 9 or more wins next season I think he really could be the coach that will make us relevant to national contenders.
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No he hasn't had abysmal first years. Find one instance where his first year was worse than the year before he took over.

You're either just a pessimist or don't understand what we're doing.
 
hiveredtech said:
I doubt it is worse.

But...we will not get much better unless Nesbitt can be more accurate with his throws so the passing game is a threat.

We had WR's open in the Chick-fil-A Bowl and the protection was there.

I fully expect that he makes huge improvement from year one to year two as a starter.
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If Josh doesn't improve he won't be QB IMO. For us to get better offensively we have to be able to take advantage of the D. That means being able to hurt them with the pass to make them play the option honestly. I expect Josh to improve. But if he doesn't I expect PJ to find another option.
 
ncjacket said:
No he hasn't had abysmal first years. Find one instance where his first year was worse than the year before he took over.

You're either just a pessimist or don't understand what we're doing.
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I realize that I already said earlier in this thread that I was misinformed about what his first years were. My bad :behead:

wombat said:
I think you're a crazy idiot, but I have no idea how you got this way.

Seriously? We peaked???
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I think it's possible. There are only so many places we can improve in. The offensive line might improve but that will 'probably' have to be through new guys (just my crazy self who isn't going to be certain on new guys). Nesbitts' passing game could improve, but that's wait and see. Then there is what more depth at various positions could do and that again follows more on new players' shoulders.
Remember though that by peaking I'm talking about putting 400 yards on Miami and Georgia.

I'll be happy if you prove me wrong and I will bow to your superior football wisdom. :bowdown:
 
Yellow Fever said:
I've got news for you...

OUR HEAD COACH IS PAUL FREAKING JOHNSON! 9 WINS IS AS BAD AS WE WILL GET!

ps: see my sig. I've known all along since his hiring, and I was called an idiot.
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You scare the hell out of me! You are pissing off BOR's football gods and we will be lucky to have a winning season if you keep this crap up!
 
GTLiebs said:
I think it's possible. There are only so many places we can improve in. The offensive line might improve but that will 'probably' have to be through new guys (just my crazy self who isn't going to be certain on new guys). Nesbitts' passing game could improve, but that's wait and see. Then there is what more depth at various positions could do and that again follows more on new players' shoulders.
Remember though that by peaking I'm talking about putting 400 yards on Miami and Georgia.

I'll be happy if you prove me wrong and I will bow to your superior football wisdom. :bowdown:
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So you say there are only a few areas we can improve in and then proceed to name 3 right off the bat? You forgot improving on running the basic offense because we are not good at it yet. We are slow, reads are still hit or miss and our blocking is very hot or cold. What amazes me is that you seem to think we were running the offense correctly at some point this year. We weren't. You also left out improved pass defense, competent LB play, upgrade at WR, better blocking from the A backs and better use of them in the running game. We are no where near where this offense can be.
 
ncjacket said:
So you say there are only a few areas we can improve in and then proceed to name 3 right off the bat? You forgot improving on running the basic offense because we are not good at it yet. We are slow, reads are still hit or miss and our blocking is very hot or cold. What amazes me is that you seem to think we were running the offense correctly at some point this year. We weren't. You also left out improved pass defense, competent LB play, upgrade at WR, better blocking from the A backs and better use of them in the running game. We are no where near where this offense can be.
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I'll try to rephrase what I was trying to say (this is my fault, I have problems all the time expressing the point in my head).

What I think I'm getting at is a lot of the ways we can improve rely on true and perhaps some redshirt freshmen playing possibly playing as well as our starters this year were and I just won't put money on that. I'm not saying it can't work though.

Also, in that list I was only referring to our offense not our defense.

And I'm really not trying to be a sad sack, it's just I keep hearing people (not exclusively on this website) talking about how the future is sunshine and daisies and it makes me want to point out that it's not guaranteed.
 
But you are probably right about the better use of our A-backs, I hadn't thought of that and I agree that our pass defense will be improved.
 
GTLiebs said:
There are only so many places we can improve in. The offensive line might improve but that will 'probably' have to be through new guys (just my crazy self who isn't going to be certain on new guys). Nesbitts' passing game could improve, but that's wait and see...
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The team has the ability to improve greatly on the o-line. The coaches are glad that we will have actual competition at the o-line positions--instead of having to plays some guys because that it all we had. The o-line had its moments, but played poorly for a big chunk of the season--as they get more reps and familiarity w/a foreign blocking scheme, why wouldn't they improve?

Their is some good history to think that Nesbitt will improve in the passing game--he threw for a ton of yards in HS. I believe that his accuracy will improve as he actually has time to throw instead of the o-line getting shoved back towards him, as was the case numerous times this season.

Cutting down on TO's will do wonders as well. Even w/the o-line problems (which is a big reason why the passing game was hit or miss), we beat VT and UVA if we don't have the back breaking TO's.

Also, our special teams were craptacular. They will improve w/the added depth from this recruiting class and from another kicker, so that one player isn't doing all three kicking jobs.

So, yeah, IMO, there is a lot of room for improvement. I'm thrilled w/CPJ's 1st season--the good news is that he very likely isn't. He hates to lose. Besides improving on technique (as you put it) and other aspects which can lead to big results from a bit of improvement, CPJ has instilled a winning attitude w/the program. This is the biggest difference w/the new regime.
 
GTLiebs said:
I'll try to rephrase what I was trying to say (this is my fault, I have problems all the time expressing the point in my head).

What I think I'm getting at is a lot of the ways we can improve rely on true and perhaps some redshirt freshmen playing possibly playing as well as our starters this year were and I just won't put money on that. I'm not saying it can't work though.

Also, in that list I was only referring to our offense not our defense.

And I'm really not trying to be a sad sack, it's just I keep hearing people (not exclusively on this website) talking about how the future is sunshine and daisies and it makes me want to point out that it's not guaranteed.
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Well, our whole offense will be back so the only way any new starters have a chance to improve is if they beat out the incumbent. Sounds pretty positive to me. On defense, there will be some opportunities for younger guys, but if we improve most will be because guys who played this year improve. That's typically how it works...guys are better as sophs than they were as freshmen, better as juniors than as sophs...etc. We may be better next year and not have as good a record. I'm not really worried about that. But I do think our offense will be much better and hope the defense can maintain.
 
Our team can improve in EVERY PHASE of the game. We were terrible at darn near everything this year except for RB play. We didn't block well, pass well, catch well, defend well, and our special teams play was horrid with the occasional exception of Michael Johnson doing something cool.
 
Will people please just let my ill-advised threads fall into obscurity?!
Every time it gets close to off the front page some goes and posts on it...
 
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