OU didn't choke. They ran their bread and butter goal line offense and FL stuffed it down their throats. Tebow is the best player in college football. Bradford is the best pure QB, but I want the guy who finds a way to win, not the guy who looks the best throwing the ball.
So anyone here actually think we saw the best team in the country play tonight?
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Obviously I am not the only guy who thinks that OU lost the game because they had a topic titled "Did OU lose or did Florida win?" on 1st and 10 on ESPN this afternoon. Florida didn't dominate as many expected and OU slowed down their playcalling whenever they got within the 10 yd line ... all fingers point towards Stoops in my opinion for the OU loss. Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless were even talking about how OU screwed it up within the 10, Florida didn't do anything spectacular. They went on to ridicule Stoops for OU's loss instead of praise Urban Myer/Tim Tebow for winning.
The sad thing is that we will never know who was the best team this year or any year in the future until a playoff is installed.
The sad thing is that we will never know who was the best team this year or any year in the future until a playoff is installed.
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Well if Stephen A. and Skip Bayless said it.......then we know it's probably wrong. ;)
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Stephen A only knows the NBA and Skip only knows how to piss people off. Wouldn't go quoting those fools to support my view.
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We may not know who the best team was this year, but we know for sure that it wasn't OU.
Whether UF won or OU lost, OU lost any claim to be the best by any stretch of imagination. OU and UF were the ONLY teams in this year's "playoff", and OU lost.
To recap, OU lost to UF; UF beat OU. Doesn't matter much unless you are a perpetual OU apologist.
Texas, Utah, USC, even Penn State might claim they are better than UF. OU has no basis to remotely make that claim.
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That wasn't the best I have seen UF play this year either.
We've never known who the best team was in any year since they've been playing college football. What makes this year special?
Seriously, but how old are you? Not criticizing but you don't seem to have much historical perspective on this. The only reason people are so upset now is ESPN and the cult of having to KNOW who's best. The BCS is the closest to a real championship than has ever existed in D1. It's not perfect by any means but it probably comes closer than polls. If you don't accept FL as national champ than I assume you don't accept any of Tech's 4?
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Which leads directly to an 8 team playoff. All but the most biased can agree that the year's best team is one of a set of 8.
Athletics playoffs have a certain appeal. I only watch the NBA during the playoffs - no other time. Ditto NHL. NFL playoffs are HUGE. March Madness is the best of all! A CFB playoff would be monstrous. Right now, the only game that matters vis. the NC is the CG. With a playoff, they all matter, even the regular season.
It's a slam dunk. We ought to go for it.
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Exactly right. This would not hurt the BCS - only enhance it. Their four games are a national quarterfinal. We can come back to one of their four sites for the National title game, the weekend without NFL before Super Bowl.
Semis could be awarded to dome or warm weather stadiums each year. Do we really think these games would be before half empty stadiums?
Semis could be awarded to dome or warm weather stadiums each year. Do we really think these games would be before half empty stadiums?
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We could either do that, or even do it during December using the existing bowls.
You take the 6 current BCS conferences. You then add the 4 top ranked teams from the other 5 smaller conferences plus independents in a play-in game to get to 2 teams. Their play-ins happen the week of the CCG's.
You them have 3 rounds: Round of 8, Round of 4, Round of 2. You alternate the round of 8 (4 games) through all those minor bowls that mean very little, around 12/22. You alternate the Round of 4 (2 games) through the 2nd tier bowls around 12/29, and the Round of 2 (CG) through the majors around 1/5.
You have 7 games each year, and leave the other 25 or so bowls for all the other teams that had good years. In every 4 year span, just about every bowl could get a playoff game in one round or another. You also give all those lesser and 2nd tier bowls some serious national significance every 4 years or so. Win-win.
It's really not hard.
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So a team would win 3 bowls in one year? Don't think it would happen.
I do support the top 6 in a playoff. 1 and 2 get a bye and then play it out. The majority of the fans don't have enough money to support three bowls and travel and there aren't enough fans out there to sell out all the games, it could happen but very unlikely.
They need to have a coaches poll and a press poll and monitor the rankings and picks weekly. If either a coach or press writer steps out of line then they lose their pick for 5 years and bump up the next one. Same for the coaches. I would probably pick around 50 or so. Also, I wouldn't have rankings until the end of the 1st weeks games in October. Most teams will have played at least 4 games and maybe 5.
People who have the right too vote don't excercise good judgement usually because they don't really give a crap. These are the ones that need to be punished.
I do support the top 6 in a playoff. 1 and 2 get a bye and then play it out. The majority of the fans don't have enough money to support three bowls and travel and there aren't enough fans out there to sell out all the games, it could happen but very unlikely.
They need to have a coaches poll and a press poll and monitor the rankings and picks weekly. If either a coach or press writer steps out of line then they lose their pick for 5 years and bump up the next one. Same for the coaches. I would probably pick around 50 or so. Also, I wouldn't have rankings until the end of the 1st weeks games in October. Most teams will have played at least 4 games and maybe 5.
People who have the right too vote don't excercise good judgement usually because they don't really give a crap. These are the ones that need to be punished.
If we have a playoff it has to be independent of the bowls. There is simply no way fans and both teams can travel every week financially. If you want a playoff you have to be willing to give up the bowl system except for some of the minor bowls. The other question is whether they would continue since all the focus would be on those in the actual playoffs. For the playoffs you would need to play at the higher ranked team site until the finals. That's the only way you can count on any crowd.
Disagree. I think a playoff would kill the BCS bowls because it's ridiculous to expect teams and fans to travel that much. It simply would be cost prohibitive.
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NC, I can understand your point about people not traveling, but think of it this way. The 4 BCS bowl games are well attended now, (Va Tech and Cinncinnatti being a rare exception). If the semi-finals are at pre-determined sites, you would indeed need to sell tickets to the host community long before the game. Save 10K per school. Give them up until three days before kickoff to sell them. If every several years Minneapolis or Atlanta or St. Louis or Tampa or San Diego or Detroit or San Antonio got a semi-final game, don't you think you could sell the tickets locally? Announce Monday that the Georgia Dome will host the national semi-final game next January 15 and see how many people will order tickets.
Then, the National Championship game, next year January 29, and only affecting two schools, could save 15 to 20K tickets per school and let the bowl site have the rest to sell locally for a National Championship game. I don't buy the argument that this will lead to empty stadiums.
I understand youe point, but I don't think it will play out. I also think this is all a moot point anyway unless someone guarantees the presidents of the BCS schools more money.
So if Tech is in the playoffs and has a game in Orlando in the first round, wins and goes to Dallas in the second round and gets into the finals in Pasadena, how many are you going to?
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Exactly. And remember all of this will happen within about 4 weeks. Say you somehow have a month notice on the Orlando game, OK you plan your trip there in advance and it's not too bad. But then you get 1-2 weeks notice on Dallas and 1-2 weeks notice on Pasadena. How on earth are you going to book flights/hotels with 1-2 weeks notice? Especially doing it more than once. That's prohibitively expensive.
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Yeah but you know there will still be people who will blow the money and go there. Might not be me because I'm currently a student and thus am dirt poor.