Am I The Only One Worried That Next Year Might Be Worse?

midatlantech said:
If Josh doesn't improve on his read/hold/pull skills then I for one don't think the offense will improve. Jaybo was a much better TRUE option quarterback, and if you notice, he runs the ball a higher percentage than Josh accordingly. The QB is supposed to get the most carries, but Josh really decides to hand it off to JD pretty early.
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I agree that Josh's decision making is not ideal, but the numbers do not back this up. Tech's QB's carried more often relative to the B-Backs than they did on average at Navy. Given the time he missed, Nesbitt had more carries than the Navy QB's would've averaged.

This is despite having a more versatile starting B-Back than Navy ever did (he got outside carries the Navy B-Backs didn't get).
 
midatlantech said:
If Josh doesn't improve on his read/hold/pull skills then I for one don't think the offense will improve. Jaybo was a much better TRUE option quarterback, and if you notice, he runs the ball a higher percentage than Josh accordingly. The QB is supposed to get the most carries, but Josh really decides to hand it off to JD pretty early.

I've been wondering if there was any thruth to the "Josh wants to throw more to improve his future NFL skills" because honestly I haven't seen any improvement with his read skills. Besides the offensive line work, this is the single most important issue with the option.
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Why is the QB supposed to have more carries? I've never seen that anywhere. He's supposed to get the ball to the right ball carrier. If it's someone other than him, fine.
 
We wil be a better team but the record may not improve due to losses on D and other teams getting better.
 
Y'all are idiots. Josh runs the option great when the line blocks like it's supposed to.

We have 2 problems on offense. One - our line sucks. Two - Josh isn't an accurate passer.

One will get better with depth. The other might not matter if the first one gets better.
 
beej67 said:
Y'all are idiots. Josh runs the option great when the line blocks like it's supposed to.

We have 2 problems on offense. One - our line sucks. Two - Josh isn't an accurate passer.

One will get better with depth. The other might not matter if the first one gets better.
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He's still a little slow and doesn't fake with the ball as much as guys who've been running it longer. Not saying he's not good, just that he still has room to improve. Plus the passing thing.
 
When our OL isn't laying on the ground watching defensive linemen run past them, Nesbitt is outstanding.
 
beej67 said:
When our OL isn't laying on the ground watching defensive linemen run past them, Nesbitt is outstanding.
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I'm not saying he's bad, just that he's got room to improve just like everyone else on the offense. PJ has said the same thing. He does still miss reads and he's still slower to the corner than Navy's QBs for example.
 
ncjacket said:
I'm not saying he's bad, just that he's got room to improve just like everyone else on the offense. PJ has said the same thing. He does still miss reads and he's still slower to the corner than Navy's QBs for example.
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Sure. But if we can get average OL play, he'll be a Heisman candidate.
 
ncjacket said:
Why is the QB supposed to have more carries? I've never seen that anywhere. He's supposed to get the ball to the right ball carrier. If it's someone other than him, fine.
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I meant from a historical basis. PJ's quarterbacks carry the ball more than anybody. I remember when Jaybo was at QB, a few posters here said that he was more selfish with the ball. But as many folks responded, Jaybo was just doing what you're supposed to do.

Golden Tornado: I did not look up the stats admittedly. But I would still be shocked to see that Josh ran a normal amount. You said that "Tech QB's" ran the same as Navy. I think that has to be skewed by Jaybo (two games) and everyone else against Gardner Webb.

I could be dead wrong but Josh doesn't run the ball as much as Jaybo for example (or Navy QB's from memory). I will say that early in the season, Josh ran all the time out of the passing stance so that may also skew the numbers.

But actually keeping the ball on the option, Josh didn't seem to do it as much as Jaybo or Navy. In fairness, I thought some of that was because his ankles wouldn't let him make the cut. But the original post was based on his "read" and "keep" skills and I think he needs to improve that.
 
The reason Jaybo carries more than Nesbitt is because teams don't key on Jaybo.

The option isn't "supposed" to go to any one person. It's "supposed" to go to whoever they don't key on. In the games where Jaybo played, they opted not to key on the white boy.
 
beej67 said:
Sure. But if we can get average OL play, he'll be a Heisman candidate.
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No, but I think Dwyer will be a Heisman candidate. Bank on it.

(Ducks when thread will be brought from the dead to laugh at statement.)
 
beej67 said:
Y'all are idiots. Josh runs the option great when the line blocks like it's supposed to.

We have 2 problems on offense. One - our line sucks. Two - Josh isn't an accurate passer.

One will get better with depth. The other might not matter if the first one gets better.
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No. 2 isn't exactly true. Accuracy was an issue this season--perhaps due to your no. 1 and also due to passing from under center as opposed to the shotgun like he did in HS.

His senior year #'s: 134-222 (60.4%) 2256 yards, 32 TD's w/(only) four interceptions. 493 yards rushing on 93 carries (5.3 yards per carry), w/8 TD's. Keep in mind, he didn't play many full games that year due to his team being so far ahead.

For his junior season, he threw for 2,833 yards w/31 TD's and 9 INT's. I don't have the completion % for that year.

I think that it is very reasonable to see Nesbitt's % improve as he gets more comfortable w/being under center and (more importantly), our o-line isn't regularily shoved back to him and/or opposing d-linemen running free at him.
 
GT98 said:
The team has the ability to improve greatly on the o-line. The coaches are glad that we will have actual competition at the o-line positions--instead of having to plays some guys because that it all we had. The o-line had its moments, but played poorly for a big chunk of the season--as they get more reps and familiarity w/a foreign blocking scheme, why wouldn't they improve?

Their is some good history to think that Nesbitt will improve in the passing game--he threw for a ton of yards in HS. I believe that his accuracy will improve as he actually has time to throw instead of the o-line getting shoved back towards him, as was the case numerous times this season.

Cutting down on TO's will do wonders as well. Even w/the o-line problems (which is a big reason why the passing game was hit or miss), we beat VT and UVA if we don't have the back breaking TO's.

Also, our special teams were craptacular. They will improve w/the added depth from this recruiting class and from another kicker, so that one player isn't doing all three kicking jobs.

So, yeah, IMO, there is a lot of room for improvement. I'm thrilled w/CPJ's 1st season--the good news is that he very likely isn't. He hates to lose. Besides improving on technique (as you put it) and other aspects which can lead to big results from a bit of improvement, CPJ has instilled a winning attitude w/the program. This is the biggest difference w/the new regime.
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WAY too rational. PJ said numerous times he felt Josh was running for his life and it was hard for him to get off his throws. That can cause a guy to hurry even when he does have time.

Then combine that with the difficulty of a first year QB (for all practical purposes) leaning to run the triple option, and I think there are definitely grounds to expect Nesbitt will improve.
 
hiveredtech said:
Tevin is likely to be moved to AB or WR. Bryce Dykes will not see the field at all.

Jordan Luallen will have his hands full battling David Sims and Dontae Aycock for the #3 spot.

btw...Jordan ran very little TO...they were primarily wing-T...but at least he was under center and not in shotgun.

Dontae Aycock ran more true option and was also under center. Phenomenal runner. He can take it to the house on any play.

David Sims was more West Virginia/Florida style out of the shotgun but did throw for 2500, ran for 1500, and accounted for 63 TD's in just his senior season.
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Film impressions:

David Sims is an unbelievable athlete. He is as shifty as Nesbitt or Tyrod Taylor. From film it looks like he has good arm strength. IMO, he is much like Nesbitt--if he can master the TO reads, get time from his OL, and throw accurately, he could be a heisman candidate.

Luallen looks good but 195 is pretty skinny for a 6-3 guy. Plus he's totally new to the offense. Very good passer, looks like he has a strong arm and good accuracy. Runs well enough to run the TO, but will (imo) be the lesser of three evils. If he develops physically, he has the frame to run with Tebow-like power.

Aycock is an interesting case. He runs with craftiness and power, and while his arm does not look plus (about like Jaybo's) he has a cagey way of making plays. Will be a sick AB or BB if he doesn't play QB.

Washington's arm is the questionmark. He runs very well. I see him as a S or AB if he doesn't pan at QB. He has an extra gear on long runs.

IMO, ideal situation is we redshirt all 3 tr-fr (either 3rd string is not needed, or Washington wins the job). Don't want to waste a year of Sims career on just a little PT. I think he's going to shoot up the depth chart.
 
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