Stewart Mandel article on a playoff

That is true, the BCS makes every regular season game matter.
 
I think they make a damn good point. I would say, though, that a plus-1 would be preferable if it didn't lead to a 16 or 32 team playoff.
 
RamblinWreck09 said:
That is true, the BCS makes every regular season game matter.
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I don't understand how people can keep saying this after this season. Go ask Texas if the regular season matters. Go ask Utah if the regular season matters. Go ask Florida if the regular season matters. It doesn't. In the BCS, all that matters is media perception and conference loyalties.

You can lose only one game and beat a team on a neutral field and watch that team go to the championship. You can win all your games and not go to the championship. You can have a terrible loss to a terrible team on your home field and still go to the championship over an undefeated team. Let's stop with this "the regular season is a playoff" and "every game matters" garbage, because it's not true and we all know it.
 
Bullhockey.

Arizona won its division early. Other teams with better records didn't play the same schedule. In other words, they knew what it took to make the big game and they got it done, on the field.

If we had an opinion poll for which team in the NFC should play in the championship, then the unanimous opinion would be the Cardinals have no business playing as NFC Champion.

That Opinion would be wrong, as proven on the field.

Opinion has no place in determining the outcome of any sport, unless you count sports like ice dancing and rhythmic gymnastics.
 
gth816f said:
I don't understand how people can keep saying this after this season.
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I was about to post the same thing, together with the comment that the BCS makes only one post season game matter. While casual fans jump on the bandwagon for the post season of every other sport, most people I know who don't already live and breathe college football don't see the point of watching any of the bowl games other than the BCS championship. That's not even going into attendance at those games.
 
gth816f said:
I In the BCS, all that matters is media perception and conference loyalties.
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QFT, and OU plays that particular game better than anyone, putting up style points in meaningless run-up scores to overcome perception of previous failures.
 
lonestarjacket said:
Bullhockey.

Arizona won its division early. Other teams with better records didn't play the same schedule. In other words, they knew what it took to make the big game and they got it done, on the field.

If we had an opinion poll for which team in the NFC should play in the championship, then the unanimous opinion would be the Cardinals have no business playing as NFC Champion.

That Opinion would be wrong, as proven on the field.

Opinion has no place in determining the outcome of any sport, unless you count sports like ice dancing and rhythmic gymnastics.
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Fair nuf fair nuf :bowdown:
But admittedly we wouldn't want a system where a team could stop caring with a month left to play (why computer rankings, at least, aren't so bad)
 
And.... I don't really care that the last few games of my team's regular season would be less meaningful IF WE HAD ALREADY CLINCHED THE CONFERENCE.

FTR, I am also not concerned about losing interest in a particular game for my team when we have an insurmountable lead. I would still watch with glee.

True fans of all teams will keep interested regardless of whether the race is tight.

And the example of the ACC champion having a chance to win it all is a good one. If the ACC champion only had a bad record because of playing in a balanced league, then it would deserve a chance to prove as much against the champions of top-heavy conferences.
 
While I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly lonestar, I think the ACC needs to break .500 in bowls before anyone outside it agrees as well.
 
GTLiebs said:
Fair nuf fair nuf :bowdown:
But admittedly we wouldn't want a system where a team could stop caring with a month left to play (why computer rankings, at least, aren't so bad)
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With a playoff there will be far more games with meaning in the regular season. Come November, how many games are now between two teams long out of league championship races, let alone the BCS game? Compare that to a handful of games involving a few 0 or 1 loss teams still vying to be #1 or 2.
 
surferdave said:
With a playoff there will be far more games with meaning in the regular season. Come November, how many games are now between two teams long out of league championship races, let alone the BCS game? Compare that to a handful of games involving a few 0 or 1 loss teams still vying to be #1 or 2.
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Fine, I'll just go break my fingers now and give up posting forever in shame. :owned:
 
Assuming the conference champions get playoff bids, the playoffs will decrease the interest in ONLY out of conference match-ups. Look at this season, most conference champions wouldn't be there if they lost one more. So conference games will still be valuable.

Add to that the fact that voting is making out of conference match-ups crappier every year.
 
So, Mandell's argument is that every game is meaning in college football, thus preventing a team from getting hot and winning it all. It would be true, if as someone already pointed out, you didn't have a season like this with Texas and Utah. If anything, this season has proven to me that we're better off with the old system.
 
gth816f said:
I don't understand how people can keep saying this after this season. Go ask Texas if the regular season matters. Go ask Utah if the regular season matters. Go ask Florida if the regular season matters. It doesn't. In the BCS, all that matters is media perception and conference loyalties.

You can lose only one game and beat a team on a neutral field and watch that team go to the championship. You can win all your games and not go to the championship. You can have a terrible loss to a terrible team on your home field and still go to the championship over an undefeated team. Let's stop with this "the regular season is a playoff" and "every game matters" garbage, because it's not true and we all know it.
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THIS, THIS, THIS, A MILLION TIMES THIS
<I'll stop yelling now>

Face it: The argument that the regular season will be devalued is a myth, that people against a playoff still try to hide behind. What you need to realize is that college football already has a worthless regular season for all of those schools who aren't in a BCS conference. By the way, the Cardinals' regular season still mattered, because they had a chance to move up in the seeding order after winning the division, but blew those opportunities by stumbling down the stretch.

If you want regular season games to keep their weight, then just have incentives for the playoffs. Seedings/hosting games are the easiest way to do this. You can also severely limit how many ppl outside of conference champions make the playoffs. That means that you have to be that much better, because it is FAR from a guaranteed that you make it without winning the conference. The idea that someone could clinch a conference and just rest starters would be nullified in the conferences that have championship games. If you lose that game, you're not conference champion. If you're not conference champion, you're really pushing it to make it into the playoffs.
 
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