Check out our drive chart in teh CFB...

Our ST's killed us in that game, and theirs were excellent. It wasn't our O nearly as much as most are prone to think. This encourages me greatly, as we approach the spring and another year of GT football.
No, our offense was a horrible, no talent high school offense, and it is stopped/figured out/done. I want this to be the prevailing thought. I want the Bud Fosters of the world to think they've got us right where they want us. I don't want sound, rational analysis. I want to watch in glee as we torch DC's who think we're a one trick pony.

Remember, Paul Johnson's offense can be easily contained by stacking the box and swarming the point of attack.
 
No, our offense was a horrible, no talent high school offense, and it is stopped/figured out/done. I want this to be the prevailing thought. I want the Bud Fosters of the world to think they've got us right where they want us. I don't want sound, rational analysis. I want to watch in glee as we torch DC's who think we're a one trick pony.

Remember, Paul Johnson's offense can be easily contained by stacking the box and swarming the point of attack.

No, to stop this offense, you line two D-linemen over the center. Then you put the other 9 guys outside the hashmarks to stop anything going outside.

with love,
Mickey A.
 
Originally Posted by stinger78
Georgia Tech Drive Summaries - CFB

QTR - TIME - POSS. YARD - PLAYS - YARDS - RESULT
1 qtr 01:38 GT20 4 plays 37 yds (9 ypp) - Punt
1 qtr 07:05 GT14 13 plays 60 yds (4.5 ypp) - FG Good

2 qtr 01:43 GT 20 4 plays 4 yds - Downs
2 qtr 01:49 GT 0 3 plays 5 yds - Punt
2 qtr 00:55 GT 15 7 plays 37 yds (5.2 ypp) - INT

3 qtr 03:59 GT 19 8 plays 35 yds (4.5 ypp) - Downs
3 qtr 01:40 GT 1 3 plays 2 yds - Punt
3 qtr 03:39 GT 38 7 plays 47 yds (6.8 ypp) - Downs

4 qtr 05:06 GT 16 10 plays 77 yds (7.7 ypp) - Fumble
4 qtr 01:19 GT 50 7 plays 10 yds - End

Point being, we didn't look all that bad on O in this game. Sorry ST's took uys out of our O early and turned a 7-3 game into a 28-3 game by giving LSU 3 easy TD's.

Yes, we didn't look great, but we didn't look bad on O all things considered.


Thank you, ncjacket.

We had 10 possessions total:
4 went for 10 yards or less.
6 went for 35 yards or more that amassed 293 yards on 49 plays - 6 ypp. If you watch the replay, you will notice that LSU bottled up the middle effectively, but that we ran outside quite well, and we completed some nice pases when JN had time.

On offense, we killed ourselves with TO's and LSU stopped us with drive-stopping negative plays (usually trying to pass in the 2nd half).

Now notice our starting field position:
20, 14, 20, 0, 15, 19, 1, 38, 15, 50

LSU scored on their 1st possession (TD - starting from their own 40), their 3rd possession (TD - starting form their own 24), and their last possession (FG - starting from their own 46). Their other scoring drives started at the GT 19, 24, 42. All but one started beyond their own 40, and the one that didn't, we helped them with big 3rd down penalties after we had them stopped.

Our ST's killed us in that game, and theirs were excellent. It wasn't our O nearly as much as most are prone to think. This encourages me greatly, as we approach the spring and another year of GT football.

Now that is a GOOD post!

Facts to support your option. What a novel idea!:laugher:
 
THWG - here's a suggestion. If you see a thread you're not interested in, it won't hurt anyone's feelings is you stay the hell out of it. stinger has been posting here for quite a while and many people are interested in his thoughts. If you're not, just keep it to yourself.

I'm not going to stay out of it if it's a idiotic comment. I don't care if you were around to watch him write the Dec of Indep.

IF you don't like what I have to say....keep it to yourself NCJACKET.

What you're sayin' is basically I can't speak up cause I haven't been on here long, and you have so you can.....that's as ridiculous as his comment.

More people have agreed with the post that I put, the fact that you'd actually put stock in his post shows your level of GT and Football knowledge

Have a nice day
 
Thank you, ncjacket.

We had 10 possessions total:
4 went for 10 yards or less.
6 went for 35 yards or more that amassed 293 yards on 49 plays - 6 ypp. If you watch the replay, you will notice that LSU bottled up the middle effectively, but that we ran outside quite well, and we completed some nice pases when JN had time.

On offense, we killed ourselves with TO's and LSU stopped us with drive-stopping negative plays (usually trying to pass in the 2nd half).

Now notice our starting field position:
20, 14, 20, 0, 15, 19, 1, 38, 15, 50

LSU scored on their 1st possession (TD - starting from their own 40), their 3rd possession (TD - starting form their own 24), and their last possession (FG - starting from their own 46). Their other scoring drives started at the GT 19, 24, 42. All but one started beyond their own 40, and the one that didn't, we helped them with big 3rd down penalties after we had them stopped.

Our ST's killed us in that game, and theirs were excellent. It wasn't our O nearly as much as most are prone to think. This encourages me greatly, as we approach the spring and another year of GT football.


Dang, with all that spinning....you should go on Dancin with the stars. Or better yet, be one of those idiots on the Japanese Game show where they run across water.

Spinning it in our favor does one thing....comes right back about to us gettin our @$$ kicked
 
Dang, with all that spinning....you should go on Dancin with the stars. Or better yet, be one of those idiots on the Japanese Game show where they run across water.

Spinning it in our favor does one thing....comes right back about to us gettin our @$$ kicked

Go get you some Prozac. It'll help when you get fidgety sitting with daddy on the 45 yard line. It will also help your reading comprehension.
 
I'm not going to stay out of it if it's a idiotic comment. I don't care if you were around to watch him write the Dec of Indep.

IF you don't like what I have to say....keep it to yourself NCJACKET.

What you're sayin' is basically I can't speak up cause I haven't been on here long, and you have so you can.....that's as ridiculous as his comment.

More people have agreed with the post that I put, the fact that you'd actually put stock in his post shows your level of GT and Football knowledge

Have a nice day

Just wow. So are you too dumb to realize EVERYONE on this thread is making fun of you or are you really the king of sarcasm?
 
Just wow. So are you too dumb to realize EVERYONE on this thread is making fun of you or are you really the king of sarcasm?


Look, let me clear the air. I'm not sarcastic, nor in need of prozac or sitting with daddy.

I've had season tickets for 13 yrs and I've made it to 80% of all game H and A in that time period....daddy isn't payin' that bill

My whole point is that "everyone on here is fallin' into the stereotypical tech fan pattern" where everything is spun into a positive because of what the Stats say.......there's a reason the sayin' goes "stats are for losers"

That break-down above isn't a positive. It makes it even more negative to bring that up and say "hey, we did just as good as you did" when we didn't

We got destroyed in our own town....period.

Think about it....if took that to a player and showed it to him....do you think it would give him warm fuzzies and he'd appreciate the encouragement....hell no. He' probably look at you and say "is that supposed to make me feel better...knowing we did what we were supposed to do and still got pummled? If he's any player worth dressin' out you better hope it pisses him off ......it would me.

My point is that people who've played the game look at it completely different.

It's becoming more and more apparent that most of these people on here have never laced up the cleats, snapped a chin strap and traded some paint on the flats....................and it goes the same way for basketball

Thats all I got
 
My point is that people who've played the game look at it completely different.

It's becoming more and more apparent that most of these people on here have never laced up the cleats, snapped a chin strap and traded some paint on the flats....................

I'll bet coach Johnson and Mike Leach at TT don't know squat about football.
 
Look, let me clear the air. I'm not sarcastic, nor in need of prozac or sitting with daddy.

I've had season tickets for 13 yrs and I've made it to 80% of all game H and A in that time period....daddy isn't payin' that bill

My whole point is that "everyone on here is fallin' into the stereotypical tech fan pattern" where everything is spun into a positive because of what the Stats say.......there's a reason the sayin' goes "stats are for losers"

That break-down above isn't a positive. It makes it even more negative to bring that up and say "hey, we did just as good as you did" when we didn't

We got destroyed in our own town....period.

Think about it....if took that to a player and showed it to him....do you think it would give him warm fuzzies and he'd appreciate the encouragement....hell no. He' probably look at you and say "is that supposed to make me feel better...knowing we did what we were supposed to do and still got pummled? If he's any player worth dressin' out you better hope it pisses him off ......it would me.

My point is that people who've played the game look at it completely different.

It's becoming more and more apparent that most of these people on here have never laced up the cleats, snapped a chin strap and traded some paint on the flats....................and it goes the same way for basketball

Thats all I got

I don't look at it differently, and yes I did as well as others play the game. Lighten up francis. As I said earliers the players and coaches know what happened that game and they have let it go (which they should). Games like this are going to happen. Learn from it and move on. As for you, I'm proud that you have had tickets for a long time. Stop taking yourself so seriouse, you'll have much more fun on this board.
 
Lighten up Francis.

:laugher:

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Look, let me clear the air. I'm not sarcastic, nor in need of prozac or sitting with daddy.

I've had season tickets for 13 yrs and I've made it to 80% of all game H and A in that time period....daddy isn't payin' that bill

My whole point is that "everyone on here is fallin' into the stereotypical tech fan pattern" where everything is spun into a positive because of what the Stats say.......there's a reason the sayin' goes "stats are for losers"

That break-down above isn't a positive. It makes it even more negative to bring that up and say "hey, we did just as good as you did" when we didn't

We got destroyed in our own town....period.

Think about it....if took that to a player and showed it to him....do you think it would give him warm fuzzies and he'd appreciate the encouragement....hell no. He' probably look at you and say "is that supposed to make me feel better...knowing we did what we were supposed to do and still got pummled? If he's any player worth dressin' out you better hope it pisses him off ......it would me.

My point is that people who've played the game look at it completely different.

It's becoming more and more apparent that most of these people on here have never laced up the cleats, snapped a chin strap and traded some paint on the flats....................and it goes the same way for basketball

Thats all I got

First, it ought to have been apparent for a LONG time that most of the people on this board never played football on the Flats. Have you? That doesn't mean that we didn't play football at all, and aren't acquainted with the game, or that we have never played competitive athletics at significant levels.

Second, you completely missed my point. Let me clarify:
1. We got waxed, and it wasn't pretty. Embarrassed.

2. After a loss, all you got is the stats of the game, and after a 38-3 loss, you barely even have that.

3. In the embarrassment, I've heard numerous comments about how LSU stuffed our offense.

4. After watching the game 2 times on tape, I saw something different than I thought I saw live. That is:
a. Our offense didn't play as badly as I thought at first.
b. There were some aspects of our offense that we actually did well.
c. I went back to look at the drive chart, adn the same story is there as well.

5. Here's why I think that if you'll look at the drive chart, you'll come away with the same impression, which is somewhat encouraging.
a. First drive: 7-0 game and we go 40 yards on a pass to JD, followed by a perfect pass in the EZ that was perfectly defended to take away a TD. We punt after 40 yards on 4 plays.
b. Second drive: Still a 7-0 game after we force a 3 and out. We go 60 yards in 13 plays ending in a FG. 7-3 and its a game. We're all feeling pretty good. Roddy especially is gashing LSU on the right edge. Our offense steps off the field after two drives and 100 yards of offense on 17 plays.
c. The wheels come off our D and ST's. OUR OFFENSE DOESN'T STEP ON THE FIELD AGAIN UNTIL IT'S 21-3! LSU takes the kickoff and we stop them deep in their territory, but commit two huge penalties that give them a first at our 49. They score (14-3), kickoff and get the on-side kick, punt and get the fumble on our 19 and score again (21-3). Our offense has been on the sideline 7:30 and is now down 3 scores.
d. Our offense comes back out now down 21-3, having sat for 8 minute sand watched the mess. They try to pass and get a 3 and out, but Dwyer had a nice run for 5 yards on a toss sweep, before the silly fake punt. LSU gets the ball on our 22 and scores. 28-3.
e. Our offense comes back out having had 3 possessions and gone 40 yards on 4 plays, 60 yards on 13 plays for a FG, and 2 yards on 3 plays. Not too bad at all: 102 yards on 19 plays - over 5 ypp. Yet we're down 28-3. Game sucks, offense... not so much.
f. Our O pulls another 3 and out, but Nesbitt has a nice 9 yard run on a keeper to the right. ST's kick a low line-drive punt that their man catches on the run at their 40 and returns to our 40. Our D fails to show again and they score to make it 35-3.
g. At this point, our D and our ST's have royally screwed up combining to allow 5 TD's. Our O hasn't finished drives, but has generally played fairly well. 2 nice drives and 2 three and outs: 107 yards on 22 plays, just under 5 ypp.
h. Offense gets the ball back for only the 5th time against 7 possessions for LSU. We are down 2 possessions. Only the last one is the fault of our offense not moving the ball on a drive.
i. Having to pass, our O then goes 37 yards in the last minute on 7 straight passes. Dwyer 2 for 27 yards and Bebe 1 for 10 yards, but JN throws the INT at the LSU 2. Nesbitt on the drive 3/6 for 37 yards and 1 INT. Not bad.
j. For the half, we are 144 yards on 29 plays, again just under 5 ypp. The O hasn't played badly at all. Not great, but not bad either. LSU was concentrating on shutting down the middle, forcing us to run outside. They were also doing a good job getting the TO and penetrating to make the big drive-stopping play.
k. For the record, we had drives of 35, 47 and 77 yards in the 2nd half, but didn't get the ball into the EZ. Our O did fail miserably to finish drives throughout the game.
l. This is my observation and my only point: Many have bemoaned the "fact" that LSU "shut down" our O, and they simply did not.

My take-away from all this is our O moved the ball fairly well under very adverse circumstances in the CFA bowl, against a very talented LSU defense that had a month to practice against it. Though the game was a complete bummer to watch and we got thoroughly waxed on the scoreboard (which is the point of the game... I know, I know), still the O was not really bad at all. If you like, you can take some small amount of encouragement from that heading into spring. If you like, you can also b&m and act like the sky is falling. Your choice.
 
Look, let me clear the air. I'm not sarcastic, nor in need of prozac or sitting with daddy.

I've had season tickets for 13 yrs and I've made it to 80% of all game H and A in that time period....daddy isn't payin' that bill

My whole point is that "everyone on here is fallin' into the stereotypical tech fan pattern" where everything is spun into a positive because of what the Stats say.......there's a reason the sayin' goes "stats are for losers"

That break-down above isn't a positive. It makes it even more negative to bring that up and say "hey, we did just as good as you did" when we didn't

We got destroyed in our own town....period.

Think about it....if took that to a player and showed it to him....do you think it would give him warm fuzzies and he'd appreciate the encouragement....hell no. He' probably look at you and say "is that supposed to make me feel better...knowing we did what we were supposed to do and still got pummled? If he's any player worth dressin' out you better hope it pisses him off ......it would me.

My point is that people who've played the game look at it completely different.

It's becoming more and more apparent that most of these people on here have never laced up the cleats, snapped a chin strap and traded some paint on the flats....................and it goes the same way for basketball

Thats all I got
No, we're not. Everyone here knows we were killed in the chicken bowl. What some people realize now, and some of us did right after the game, is that the all the chatter about how LSU figured out the offense and "gave everyone the blueprint" is crap. Our offense stopped itself, as it usually did during the season when we weren't effective, and special teams was terrible. That's it. No one is suggesting we didn't get waxed, just that if you paid attention you could see that the world didn't come to an end.

I congratulate you on your 13 years of fandom. However don't expect any kudos around here. I entered Tech in 1975. I watched games as a kid from about 1965 on. So is that supposed to make me some kind of expert on football? No. Neither are you, at least not based on how many games you've gone to.

Your problem on this thread, and on several others I've seen BTW, is that you have no perspective nor do you have the ability to understand the points people are trying to make. Our basketball team sucks this year. Our football team was destroyed in the chicken bowl. No one can argue those points. What many people can do however is separate the end result from the process and talk rationally about aspects of the games/seasons to dissect what worked and what didn't. If you can't do that you should probably just avoid that kind of thread.
 
If you ask me, something that would be more insulting than telling a player that even though you got whopped you didn't do that badly is saying that the only reason you got whopped was because of the offense you run. That contains a number of insults. It insults the players coach who taught them the offense, it insults the work the players put in the learn that offense and it says that no matter how hard they play they will still lose cause of their offense. So if someone is going to show evidence that we lost cause we crapped it up that game rather than because we ran a different kind of offense then I say bring it on.
 
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