F$U President to UF: We'll commit fraud to get Tebow suspended

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After years of cheating F$U got caught. They received a slap on the wrist. But F$U's president suggests that it isn't fair. Instead, he suggest that committing fraud to frame a student athlete at another school is less serious

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_fsu/2009/03/tk-wetherell-goes-off-the-script.html


Here's the quote from the article:

“I mean, I figured out how to beat Florida,” Wetherell said. “I told them the other day – I’ve got the deal, man. I got the deal. We’re going to send a graduate assistant down to write a [paper] for Tebow, and go ahead and turn it in.


“And then we’re not going to tell anybody, until about the 15th of August. And we’re going to say, Oh, by the way, look what happened. Urban [Meyer] doesn’t know anything about this – he’s not involved. And the letter according to the NCAA – you think a violation occurred, not that it did occur, you think it occurred, you’ve got to sit him.


“Well, we’ve got the proof, we’ve the [paper], we’ve got the one he turned in, we’ve got the one the graduate assistant [did]. He violated the rules. He’s ineligible … now, they can redshirt him next year, and they may need to do that because they’re going to need a quarterback, anyway, in two years and that may not be a bad idea. But – that’s just not right. I mean, it’s just not right. That’s what’s the problem – it’s just flat wrong.”
 
Soooooooo much fail...

I can see their point way out in the distance, but really, there's no reason for them to even come out and say something like this. There just isn't. There's no good that can come of that whatsoever.
 
I am speechless. I can tell the pressure is building in Tally. I would expect some big changes soon.
 
how old is this guy - that's not the talk track of a professional...
 
Wow. He got one part completely right though, assuming he was referring to what he just talked about doing:

But – that’s just not right. I mean, it’s just not right. That’s what’s the problem – it’s just flat wrong.
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I guess he never considered that, in that situation, Tebow should say no to the GA writing his paper, and if he said yes, then he deserved to be suspended? Unless they are saying secretly turn it in for him, but that would come out immediately when the teacher received two papers "from" him.
 
The press secretary actually had to shut the president up -- tell him to sit down and press conference is over. He was actually cussing in the conference as well. Not a good thing.
 
Does he somehow think that someone framing another player is on the same level as massive numbers of your own athletes cheating? Really?

He needs to shut up and take his medicine. It is only by the grace of God and the number of zeros their TV contracts pull in that the NCAA didn't really drop the hammer on that program for this. Whining like a spoiled bitch really only accomplishes one thing, and that's making him look like a whiny, spoiled bitch.

The sad thing is, FSU is a joke school, and they seem to believe that their athletics somehow lend credibility to the school itself, rather then vice-versa, as it should be.
 
One thing to say such a thing at the Club, with buddies, over drinks; entirely another at a press conference or an interview. The guy should resign, except that he seems to reflect the spirit of the school pretty accurately.
 
The Criminoles were caught and now they must suffer the consequences. This is a typical reaction of so many common criminals --instead of focusing on what went wrong in his house, this president wants to throw stones at another house with his 'here's how we could incriminate Tim Tebow over at UF' rhetoric.

SHUT THE HE77 UP and accept your punishment. Where is TechGator, because someone needs to call this guy out for what he is --a douchebag!
 
dispicable behavior for a university president

the fact is that:
either
1) the FB coaches and other coaches had some clue as to what was going on;
or
2) they SHOULD HAVE known what was going on, suggesting lack of control
or
3) they recruited the type of atheles that are either unable or unwilling to adhere to clear university policy

any and all of which is THEIR FAULT.

they should be happy not to get a worse punishment, but of course the way to deal with the NCAA is to complain loudly, get high$ donors involved and create a publicity problem for the NCAA so that they give in.

Tech thought it could just play by facts and reality, they didnt realize (through inexperience) that all it takes is a moster flop.
 
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/article985202.ece

St. Bobby has decided to float down upon the wings of angels and grace us all with his benevolent voice on the matter. And he, of course, sounds like a tool while doing so. He manages to compare a huge cheating ring to going five miles over the speed limit. They got a slap on the wrist. And we all know that the NCAA will give the wins back. I'm sure they're just "good kids" though. Seriously, if you need to cheat in an online music course, then perhaps you aren't college material.
 
Allen Koholic said:
Seriously, if you need to cheat in an online music course, then perhaps you aren't college material.
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To be fair, probably 75%+ of the kids in that class were cheating. That sort of thing happens all the time in college, especially when there is some sort of online assessment.

Not that it makes it any less of an NCAA offense for the football team to be doing it.
 
gth816f said:
To be fair, probably 75%+ of the kids in that class were cheating. That sort of thing happens all the time in college, especially when there is some sort of online assessment.

Not that it makes it any less of an NCAA offense for the football team to be doing it.
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then i would say that 75% of the students at FSU should figure out what they really want to do and not just "go to college" as the next step after high school. this is what makes "universities" into high schools.

we have totally lost the meaning of going to university in this country. you should go to pursue something, not to "get a degree"; i would say most kids at Tech have a genuine curiosity about things. but to be in college and have an undeclared major? i just dont get it. if more people found a profession, a vocation, started a small business, had a goal, had a vision and not just following "what people should do" it would vastly improve our country.
 
BuzzCzar said:
then i would say that 75% of the students at FSU should figure out what they really want to do and not just "go to college" as the next step after high school. this is what makes "universities" into high schools.

we have totally lost the meaning of going to university in this country. you should go to pursue something, not to "get a degree"; i would say most kids at Tech have a genuine curiosity about things. but to be in college and have an undeclared major? i just dont get it. if more people found a profession, a vocation, started a small business, had a goal, had a vision and not just following "what people should do" it would vastly improve our country.
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I don't 100% agree with this. There's nothing wrong with going to college to determine what you want to do with your life, as getting a degree is essential to life if you ask me. My problem is that schools like FSU, a glorified community college with D1 football program, are considered fine universities, when in reality they're a sad joke. If these kids can get a degree from FSU, then I could go, spend a majority of my time huffing gold paint and hanging out with Tallahassee's finest trailer park hookers and still graduate on the Dean's List. The problem is that the school itself is a joke, and its not an isolated issue. The importance of a college education has risen to the point where schools will dumb themselves down to allow kids to graduate, rather then force kids to actually learn something and apply themselves. This turned them into high schools. Same reason that grade inflation is such a problem. A college diploma should be an honor earned through hard work and sacrifice, it's not a right guaranteed when you're paid up on the Bursar's bills. Sadly, too many people think it's the latter.

So, my only point of disagreement is with your statement that uncdeclared majors are bad. I guess I still believe that some people don't know exactly what they want to do and are hoping to find it in college. I agree though, that college is pretty much a joke now.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I don't 100% agree with this. There's nothing wrong with going to college to determine what you want to do with your life, as getting a degree is essential to life if you ask me. My problem is that schools like FSU, a glorified community college with D1 football program, are considered fine universities, when in reality they're a sad joke. If these kids can get a degree from FSU, then I could go, spend a majority of my time huffing gold paint and hanging out with Tallahassee's finest trailer park hookers and still graduate on the Dean's List. The problem is that the school itself is a joke, and its not an isolated issue. The importance of a college education has risen to the point where schools will dumb themselves down to allow kids to graduate, rather then force kids to actually learn something and apply themselves. This turned them into high schools. Same reason that grade inflation is such a problem. A college diploma should be an honor earned through hard work and sacrifice, it's not a right guaranteed when you're paid up on the Bursar's bills. Sadly, too many people think it's the latter.

So, my only point of disagreement is with your statement that uncdeclared majors are bad. I guess I still believe that some people don't know exactly what they want to do and are hoping to find it in college. I agree though, that college is pretty much a joke now.
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why should they pay $20,000 a year to "figure it out"? and at the same time de-value the college experience for everyone else? they can go to europe and figure it out while hiking, or go work on a fishing ship in alaska and make $20k instead (and maybe die) and perhaps realize that they like biology

im not saying that someone is an EE and then realizes that they really want to do theoretical and move to physics or something, that is understandable, but having NO IDEA what you want to learn in college kind of makes it difficult to decide where to go. Hot chicks and good party town should not, imo be the criteria. as such, until you have a decent idea of what you are interested in, you have no business wallowing around campus trying to find yourself

that is just my take. then again, i think this country sorely needs to develop its vocational training and schooling capabilities so that a college education is NOT required for jobs that dont really need one, like any technician or someone that is an expert on tuning bicycles.

i dont feel that it is "better" to be good at something traditionally taught in university over some technical skill, like being an excellent mechanic, just different

we need to realize that treating everyone the same, leads to mediocre everything

/rant
 
BuzzCzar said:
then i would say that 75% of the students at FSU should figure out what they really want to do and not just "go to college" as the next step after high school. this is what makes "universities" into high schools.
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Who said undeclared major? Universities make you take tons of classes unrelated to your interests. I was a CS major my entire time at Tech, and yet I ended up having to take chemistry, biology, psychology, and history of art, among other classes. There were many students in these classes in the same situation as me, which is probably the same situation as most of the kids in that music class. That leads to cheating, because honestly, most of the people in those classes didn't care about the spellings of the names of ancient artists. I don't think that reflects on me not knowing what I want to do with my life or going to college just as the next step after high school.

The reality of the system right now is that you go to school to get the grades and the degree, not really because you are interested in the classes. Hopefully you are very interested in the field related to your degree, but that is very often different from the classes you have to take.
 
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