How well did we get the offense last year?

Xihix

Xihix

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I was looking at some older games from last year, and it seems that the team was still not completely getting the offense in the first half of the year, though they still managed to do pretty well. And then, we started losing to Virginia and North Carolina, and barely won against FSU. Then, something truly magical happened in the Miami and Georgia game, to where it seemed that we really were getting it. Then, in the end when it deeply mattered to show the nation what kind of team Tech was, we lose to LSU after they lost to two godawful teams.

So, overall... What happened? It seems like things went all over the place... Hopefully as the team has learned more and is still learning, some good consistency can happen.
 
Xihix said:
I was looking at some older games from last year, and it seems that the team was still not completely getting the offense in the first half of the year, though they still managed to do pretty well. And then, we started losing to Virginia and North Carolina, and barely won against FSU. Then, something truly magical happened in the Miami and Georgia game, to where it seemed that we really were getting it. Then, in the end when it deeply mattered to show the nation what kind of team Tech was, we lose to LSU after they lost to two godawful teams.

So, overall... What happened? It seems like things went all over the place... Hopefully as the team has learned more and is still learning, some good consistency can happen.
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I think you are right, consistency is key. But, remember that we were pretty banged up after the UNC game. The bye week was critical to us getting healthy and whoopin Miami and/or UGA.

LSU, who knows what happened.
 
Last year's result is what happens when you mix a great coach and talented skill players with freshman, sophomores, and a new offensive system. Because of the coaching and talent you have games in the 40's like Ugay and Miami. Then on the flip side you have games like LSU, UNC, and Uva where we couldn't get out of our own f-ing way because we didn't know who to block or where to go.
And some of it has to do with the opponent. Gardner-Webb was obviously more disciplined and better coached than ugay.
 
for the record, we would have routed FSU if Nesbitt hadn't been hurt. We were moving the ball pretty darn well.
 
Also, though we won by 3 against FSU the offense was rolling against them from 2nd quarter to Nesbitt being injured. Admittedly we shouldn't of died on offense with Shaw at QB like we did but a freshman can have a bad day without us going nuts.
 
Hopefully we learn how to pass a little otherwise bad things could happen a la LSU.
 
I think it was just inconsistencies of being a really young team; injuries certainly fueled that even more.
 
LSU showed the blueprint on how to beat us.
Rotate 8 NFL quality DL's and blow up the play in the back field. Start 3 drives on our side of the field.
Lucky for us, we don't play anyone with the DL talent that LSU had this year. UGag included
 
To answer your basic question, we never ran the offense the way it's designed to be run last year. Even when we looked good, we were just scratching the surface. We have only seen a glimmer of what this is supposed to be. The people who said we would struggle on offense were right. So just imagine what can happen when we figure this out.
 
GTBandit22 said:
LSU showed the blueprint on how to beat us.
Rotate 8 NFL quality DL's and blow up the play in the back field. Start 3 drives on our side of the field.
Lucky for us, we don't play anyone with the DL talent that LSU had this year. UGag included
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Aside from factors of our execution, the LSU formula was no mystery since Les Miles gave it up in an interview.

LSU just decided that they weren't going to get beat by Dwyer or our A-backs (Roddy in particular.) If they were going to lose then Nesbitt was going to have to do it. Now I don't know if he meant they totally sold out on the pass or if they were willing to give Nesbitt more of an opening figuring he was less likely to go for the big play than the other backs, or maybe it was both. But they decided to make us try to beat them "left-handed" by focussing on stopping the most successful parts of the offense.

But, FWIW, we lost the game on special teams more than on offense or defense.
 
lonestarjacket said:
Aside from factors of our execution, the LSU formula was no mystery since Les Miles gave it up in an interview.

LSU just decided that they weren't going to get beat by Dwyer or our A-backs (Roddy in particular.) If they were going to lose then Nesbitt was going to have to do it. Now I don't know if he meant they totally sold out on the pass or if they were willing to give Nesbitt more of an opening figuring he was less likely to go for the big play than the other backs, or maybe it was both. But they decided to make us try to beat them "left-handed" by focussing on stopping the most successful parts of the offense.

But, FWIW, we lost the game on special teams more than on offense or defense.
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Yes, we did, including the out of bounds kick on the friggin' opening kickoff. I hate that play and what it does to you.
 
Blocking, blocking blocking. While we should be better this year, we will really be good when we get good seasoned OL.
 
Lsu showed the nation how to beat us:

1. Make GT drop an easy TD catch.

2. Sucessfully onside kick.

3. Successfully fake punt.

4. Have GT botch a punt return.

5. Have GT screw up a fake punt.

6. Sucessfully fake punt again.


The Lsu Game = MURPHY'S LAW

To suggest otherwise is asinine.
 
wesleyd21 said:
Lsu showed the nation how to beat us:

1. Make GT drop an easy TD catch.

2. Sucessfully onside kick.

3. Successfully fake punt.

4. Have GT botch a punt return.

5. Have GT screw up a fake punt.

6. Sucessfully fake punt again.


The Lsu Game = MURPHY'S LAW

To suggest otherwise is asinine.
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BINGO. If any team we face can successfully execute this "plan" then they will beat us easily.
 
I may have to hotlink this thread to use that exact response to anyone who says LSU produced a roadmap for beating us.
 
couple of steps we executed against the ugaggers in the third quarter as well!
 
lonestarjacket said:
LSU just decided that they weren't going to get beat by Dwyer or our A-backs (Roddy in particular.) If they were going to lose then Nesbitt was going to have to do it. Now I don't know if he meant they totally sold out on the pass or if they were willing to give Nesbitt more of an opening figuring he was less likely to go for the big play than the other backs, or maybe it was both. But they decided to make us try to beat them "left-handed" by focussing on stopping the most successful parts of the offense.
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And as far as the ACC is concerned, I doubt there are many, if any, teams in the ACC with the discipline required to do that on every play and it is certain there are no teams in the ACC with a defense as talented as LSU. Just goes to show how far a team can fall when they have only 2 problems but with some of the most important parts of the team (bad QB and co-D coordinators who aren't up to par).
 
lonestarjacket said:
Aside from factors of our execution, the LSU formula was no mystery since Les Miles gave it up in an interview.

LSU just decided that they weren't going to get beat by Dwyer or our A-backs (Roddy in particular.) If they were going to lose then Nesbitt was going to have to do it. Now I don't know if he meant they totally sold out on the pass or if they were willing to give Nesbitt more of an opening figuring he was less likely to go for the big play than the other backs, or maybe it was both. But they decided to make us try to beat them "left-handed" by focussing on stopping the most successful parts of the offense.

But, FWIW, we lost the game on special teams more than on offense or defense.
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There is often commentary about Jaybo keeping the ball too much. But if you look at Navy's offense, the quarterback runs the ball the most. I think Jaybo actually runs the option the most correctly.

Additionally against LSU, Josh potentially was still not himself on those ankles. Regardless Josh does not keep the ball as often as he probably should.
 
olgoldandwhite said:
Blocking, blocking blocking.
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Agreed. It's amazing how people can watch hundreds of games and still not understand that an offense is about blocking.

PJ's offense requires everyone to block that doesn't have the ball in their hands. In the bowl game, it wasn't just the OL that blocked poorly, the A-backs and WRs took a step back from the Miami and Georgia games.

The bowl game wasn't just a function of LSU's talent; we would have lost to a lot of teams that night between the poor blocking and the special teams play.
 
midatlantech said:
Additionally against LSU, Josh potentially was still not himself on those ankles. Regardless Josh does not keep the ball as often as he probably should.
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With that the idea is probably that until we can confidently pass the ball we should just have someone (probably Nesbitt) run with it instead. At least then you can get 1-2 yards. Easier said then done as usual.
 
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