depth at RB

ncjacket said:
Very few teams actually carry 17.
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Bear in mind that the 17 includes FR who are being given redshirts. Of our opponents for whom I have programs, on their travel squads they brought:

LSU '08 - 18
FSU -08 - 12
VT '07 - 11
Troy '06 - 11
UNC '05 - 15
Miami '04 - 14
Clemson '03 - 14

Assuming 3-5 redshirted OL in each class, that would put most of these teams at or near the 17 number.
 
ncjacket said:
That includes walkons as well though, correct?
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I suppose, to the extent they use them. Off hand, I'd say that w/o's are mainly used to bulk up numbers when a team finds itself significantly below that target (ie: if you can get near 17 scholie OL, then you wouldn't use so many w/o's). The 17 includes redshirted true FR on scholie.
 
beej67 said:
So we really need to recruit more than 3, since we're not up to 17 yet and we're losing 3. Only taking 3 will keep us understaffed (14) at the position.
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beej67

We have never had 17 scholarship OL on roster...at least not since they limited ships to 85 a long time ago.

The most I have seen is 15 on our roster...and the most typical years have been 12-14 going back to O'Leary in the 90's.

We are going to take 2 true OL's this year. We could take one hybrid OL/DL.
 
hiveredtech said:
beej67

We have never had 17 scholarship OL on roster...at least not since they limited ships to 85 a long time ago.

The most I have seen is 15 on our roster...and the most typical years have been 12-14 going back to O'Leary in the 90's.

We are going to take 2 true OL's this year. We could take one hybrid OL/DL.
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We had 23 listed on the CFA Bowl roster (and 24 listed on our FSU game roster). As far as I can tell, 14 scholarship and 9 walk-ons. We lose the four indicated, but signed Foster, Beno, Jackson and Finch to stay at 14 scholarship OL for 2009.

Scholarship OL:
1. Barrick
2. Brown (graduated)
3. Claytor
4. Gardner (graduated)
5. Gilbert
6. Hill (moved to DL)
7. Howard
8. McRae
9. Sellers
10. AJSmith (graduated)
11. PSmith
12. Uzzi
13. Voss
14. Yandell

Non-Scholarship OL (Correct me if some of these are scholarship S-A's). We lost only one to graduation, but I'm sure some of these will hang it up. Not sure how many of these we will take into the fall.
1. Bedford
2. Brannon
3. Folkner
4. Fraysier
5. Hudson
6. Johnson
7. Krish
8. Paquette
9. St.Denis

FWIW, we had 16 on roster in 2007, 15 in 2006, 13 in 2005, 13 in 2004 and 12 in 2003. None of these includes LS, who is really a ST player.
 
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On the O/L part as well, I think you are going to see more walkons coming in as well. Talking to the O/L coach today they are very happy with a couple of the kids right now.
 
When y'all talk about being as deep in the line as RB would lead to us having way to many linemen, you overlook that a lot of tha RB depth includes guys listed at both RB slots. We might be 4 deep at any given line position with the 15-17 linemen on scholarship when you count the ones that can swing between multiple positions.
 
Scholarship OL the last 12 years:

Johnson
2009- 14
2008- 14

Gailey-
2007- 15
2006- 14
2005- 16
2004- 14
2003- 13
2002- 14

O'Leary
2001- 12
2000- 12
1999- 13
1998- 15
 
hiveredtech said:
Scholarship OL the last 12 years:

Johnson
2009- 14
2008- 14

Gailey-
2007- 15
2006- 14
2005- 16
2004- 14
2003- 13
2002- 14

O'Leary
2001- 12
2000- 12
1999- 13
1998- 15
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Looks like we've tended to carried 14-15 on scholie most years since GOL left. We'll make up the rest in walk-ons. I wonder if Bedford and Fraysier might get scholies if their play lands them in the 2-deep.
 
Was impressed at today's scrimmage with Watson and Lyons. Both ran hard and with an attitude. Lyons is going to be a good one!!!
Peoples is fluid and sneeky quick. His runs today seemed smooth and almost effortless. Roddy looked good, also. Pound for pound Marcus Wright is pure grit and determination. The diesel is well---the diesel! GO JACKETS!!!

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hiveredtech said:
Scholarship OL the last 12 years:

Johnson
2009- 14
2008- 14

Gailey-
2007- 15
2006- 14
2005- 16
2004- 14
2003- 13
2002- 14

O'Leary
2001- 12
2000- 12
1999- 13
1998- 15
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Did this number include TE's under Gailey/O'Leary? I would expect Johnson to carry more OL than the others because you don't have TE's to move in if you need an extra OL.
 
WracerX said:
Did this number include TE's under Gailey/O'Leary? I would expect Johnson to carry more OL than the others because you don't have TE's to move in if you need an extra OL.
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Nope. It also doesn't factor in that PJ's OL have to move a lot more than CG's did. The fatigue factor will play much larger with PJ's OL than previous ones.
 
WracerX said:
Did this number include TE's under Gailey/O'Leary? I would expect Johnson to carry more OL than the others because you don't have TE's to move in if you need an extra OL.
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Don't know that you should. In a traditional offense you don't move TEs in to cover for OL because they simply aren't big enough. You could argue that we should have more OL since we don't use TEs, or you could argue that our offense requires more RBs so that's where the extra scholarships go.
 
ncjacket said:
Don't know that you should. In a traditional offense you don't move TEs in to cover for OL because they simply aren't big enough. You could argue that we should have more OL since we don't use TEs, or you could argue that our offense requires more RBs so that's where the extra scholarships go.
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I'd say that this is the most likely event. Doesn't a basic pro-style offense formation involve the 5 lineman, QB, RB, 2 wide receivers and two tight ends? Swap tight ends for a-backs and there ya go.
 
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