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Interesting article from the AJC. It looks like UGAg is paying nearly $1 million to get teams like New Mexico State and North Texas to come to Athens and play for wins. This begs 2 questions for me:
1) How much are we paying for JSU now and Wofford/South Carolina Upstate/whoever else for these kind of games?
2) How much is a win worth? I know the school makes money off of the game with tix and such. But why not schedule home and home with a better team and make even more money if that is what this is about?

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/uga/stories/2009/06/01/georgia_pay_opponents.html
 
turbanicusgt said:
Interesting article from the AJC. It looks like UGAg is paying nearly $1 million to get teams like New Mexico State and North Texas to come to Athens and play for wins. This begs 2 questions for me:
1) How much are we paying for JSU now and Wofford/South Carolina Upstate/whoever else for these kind of games?
2) How much is a win worth? I know the school makes money off of the game with tix and such. But why not schedule home and home with a better team and make even more money if that is what this is about?

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/uga/stories/2009/06/01/georgia_pay_opponents.html
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Because you make even more money if you put yourself in a better position for a great W-L record...thus getting better bowl games...sell more merchandise...recruit better...etc.

Because of all these reasons, it is very hard to get quality OOC matchups....especially hard to get more than one. For us, should our offense continue to snowball as it seems it will....it could be darn near impossible to find someone of value to play us. It will not be worth the effort for a quality team to figure out a new defense for one week.
 
hiveredtech said:
Because you make even more money if you put yourself in a better position for a great W-L record...thus getting better bowl games...sell more merchandise...recruit better...etc.

Because of all these reasons, it is very hard to get quality OOC matchups....especially hard to get more than one. For us, should our offense continue to snowball as it seems it will....it could be darn near impossible to find someone of value to play us. It will not be worth the effort for a quality team to figure out a new defense for one week.
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I think you're right if we are trying to attract matchups with established factory type schools: USC, Texas, Oklahoma, etc...

But there are many good teams in the same boat as us: teams trying to make a name for themselves, climb the ladder, and gain some national exposure/respect.

I personally think we should have locked in ND for more games when we had the chance. Do you remember the lead up and game day atmosphere of those games? HYPE sells, too.

Beating up on a weak schedule sucks for the fans and screws your SOS. One loss and you're screwed in the BCS, too.
 
dressedcheeseside said:
I think you're right if we are trying to attract matchups with established factory type schools: USC, Texas, Oklahoma, etc...

But there are many good teams in the same boat as us: teams trying to make a name for themselves, climb the ladder, and gain some national exposure/respect.

I personally think we should have locked in ND for more games when we had the chance. Do you remember the lead up and game day atmosphere of those games? HYPE sells, too.

Beating up on a weak schedule sucks for the fans and screws your SOS. One loss and you're screwed in the BCS, too.
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Who says we had the chance to lock in ND? Both teams have to want it, and have room on their schedules. It's much, much easier said than done when it comes to scheduling.
 
dressedcheeseside said:
I personally think we should have locked in ND for more games when we had the chance. Do you remember the lead up and game day atmosphere of those games? HYPE sells, too.
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Best atmosphere of any sporting event I've ever been to. Of course, that was helped a lot by the #2 ranking and ridiculous hype, but playing ND is always a big deal.
 
We don't need to schedule any more cupcakes like Notre Dame. We should probably adopt the old FSU approach of anyone, anytime, anywhere. Put it on the other schools to prepare for our "high school" offense.
 
I'll play UGA for a lot less than a $1 million. They can pay me $200K and I'll suit up.
 
dressedcheeseside said:
I personally think we should have locked in ND for more games when we had the chance. Do you remember the lead up and game day atmosphere of those games? HYPE sells, too.
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Isn't that how we went from unranked to 15th or something by beating Notre Damn and Samford in 2007?
 
dressedcheeseside said:
Beating up on a weak schedule sucks for the fans and screws your SOS. One loss and you're screwed in the BCS, too.
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Two things:
1) Only once in the 11-year BCS history have there been three undefeated teams from a BCS conference.
2) An ACC team has never received an at-large BCS bid.

Because of those two facts, SOS is overrated in regards to the BCS. If you go undefeated from a BCS conference you are basically guaranteed the championship game.

Any losses from an ACC team puts you out of the BCS title game and at large bid...period. Perception is still a problem and OOC games alone will not change that.

Check out LSU in the years they won the MNC below...our OOC is tougher than theirs in 2003 and at least the equivalent in 2007 just by having Georgia which offsets VaTech. To top it off, LSU had one loss in 2003 with that easy schedule...and two losses in 2007.

Bottom line right now...if you have a loss and you are in the ACC or Big East...you will not be in the MNC game or get an at-large bid...no matter what you do.

When LSU won it all in 2003 their OOC games were:
1) La-Monroe (1-11)
2) Arizona (2-10)
3) Western Illinois (D1AA)
4) LaTech (5-7)

When LSU won it all in 2007 their OOC games were:
1) VaTech (11-3)
2) Middle Tenn St (5-7)
3) Tulane (3-9)
4) LaTech (5-7)
 
hiveredtech said:
2) An ACC team has never received an at-large BCS bid.
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I have wondered what it would take for this to happen. The only situation I see it happening is if FSU and Miami were highly ranked (top 10) and their only losses were to each other, one in the regular the other in the ACCCG.
 
MEwreck02 said:
I have wondered what it would take for this to happen. The only situation I see it happening is if FSU and Miami were highly ranked (top 10) and their only losses were to each other, one in the regular the other in the ACCCG.
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VT could do it this year, IF...
1) They only lose to us
2) We win the ACC
3) Nebraska and Alabama play in their conference championship games
4) There are no undefeated non-BCS conference teams
 
MEwreck02 said:
I have wondered what it would take for this to happen. The only situation I see it happening is if FSU and Miami were highly ranked (top 10) and their only losses were to each other, one in the regular the other in the ACCCG.
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We have to start winning our primary BCS game with regularity first before any 2nd ACC team will be given any serious consideration.
 
stinger78 said:
We have to start winning our primary BCS game with regularity first before any 2nd ACC team will be given any serious consideration.
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It also will depend on who the potential second team from the ACC is. Right or wrong the second BCS team would be more of a financial play than a reward for the best team available and some ACC teams just don't fit. I doubt Wake or BC ever get chosen as a second team but VT or Clemson could. We conceivably could be chosen as a second BCS team but the stars would have to be in alignment.

But the key is we have to start winning some BCS games first.
 
What really has to happen is to get an ACC team into the NC game. Particularly if the NC game is not the Orange Bowl, then we'd have a much better chance of getting a second team in.
 
This is Richt's bow a wow. Urban Meyer has destroyed any UGAg notion. No way UGA tops the SEC., impetus. Reverewnd Richt wants to move back to Florida and catfish. Safely done
 
midatlantech said:
What really has to happen is to get an ACC team into the NC game. Particularly if the NC game is not the Orange Bowl, then we'd have a much better chance of getting a second team in.
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The NC game is seperate from the bowls now. If an ACC team makes the NC game, I believe the OB ACC tie-in goes away but we'd have a real good chance of getting a 2nd team in if a team is qualified.
 
Y Jacket said:
We conceivably could be chosen as a second BCS team but the stars would have to be in alignment.
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I think the only way that happens is if we have on loss and that keeps us out of the ACC championship or the Orange Bowl (where the loss would be in the ACC championship).
 
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