Overtime Rule

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Thinking about this for some reason when reading about SOS.

Which current overtime rule do you prefer, college or pro?

How would you change them? (if at all)


IMO, Nance destroyed Phil Simms in a debate on the subject. (He actually prepared supporting evidence; Simms had nada.)
 
Gotta say I'd pick college if for no other reason than both teams have the opportunity to win or lose the game.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2008/10/how-important-is-coin-flip-in-ot.html

Basically 1 out of every 3 overtime games in the NFL is decided without one of the teams even touching the ball. You could probably argue that the defense should have done their job but really, all a pro team has to do is string together 4 1st downs (gaining the minimum yardage for a 1st down each time) and have a decent field goal kicker to win the game.

In the college format, you must do equal or better than the other team to win - I feel it's more indicative of who can execute consistently.

Edit: The only way I might think of changing how the college OT is performed is perhaps starting further back than the 25 yardline so that if a team gets stuffed on 3 consecutive plays, it might not be a guaranteed field goal.
 
I prefer college. I would change it by backing each team up 10 more yards, so that you aren't virtually assured a field goal each time. But really it is fine as is. Only one MAJOR problem with it: stats accumulated during these OT periods SHOULD NOT count. Those are bogus.

I hate the pro OT system, which is unfortunate because I like just about everything else in the pro game more than college.
 
I think we should stick with the college rule, but move it back 10 yards so a field goal isn't an automatic gimmie.
 
gth816f said:
I prefer college. I would change it by backing each team up 10 more yards, so that you aren't virtually assured a field goal each time. But really it is fine as is. Only one MAJOR problem with it: stats accumulated during these OT periods SHOULD NOT count. Those are bogus.

I hate the pro OT system, which is unfortunate because I like just about everything else in the pro game more than college.
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I hate pro OT too. College is much more fair imho. Back them up to the 35 or 40 though. I dont like the fact that you can get stuffed 3 times in a row and still kick a field goal.
 
I like college version, but I would start each team at the 50, instead of the 25.
 
To the 40. This requires each team to at least get one first down to get a decent shot at a FG.
 
College obviously. I think if it gets moved back to the 35-50 yard line then we will see less TDs and more FG swapping. I prefer to see TD's in overtime. The only change I would like to see is the 2pt conversion rule moved to 2nd OT instead of 3rd. It would help speed up the game and add to the drama.
 
I prefer tie games.


p.s. I'm not to sure about the internets either.
 
I think they both stink, i could care less about the pros but, in college why dont they have a coin toss to start the overtime and play maybe 7 minutes giving each team 1 time out. It would be like a 7 minute quarter, if still tied play another 7 minutes.
 
atlanta jacket said:
I think they both stink, i could care less about the pros but, in college why dont they have a coin toss to start the overtime and play maybe 7 minutes giving each team 1 time out. It would be like a 7 minute quarter, if still tied play another 7 minutes.
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Because that's pretty much the same system the pros have, and everyone hates it. It places a large deal of importance on winning the coin toss. The first team to score is almost always going to win because of the time taken in scoring. The only thing that would really differ from the pros is teams would waste the clock before kicking the winning FG.
 
Is it completely out of the question, based on BCS etc., that a game that's tied after 2 OTs is just flat out meant to be a tie? I guess $ rule, huh?
 
GoldZ said:
Is it completely out of the question, based on BCS etc., that a game that's tied after 2 OTs is just flat out meant to be a tie? I guess $ rule, huh?
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I don't think it has anything to do with money. No one wants a tie, be it fans or players. Just ask the NHL. Except maybe you. Or Donovan McNabb.
 
gth816f said:
I don't think it has anything to do with money. No one wants a tie, be it fans or players. Just ask the NHL. Except maybe you. Or Donovan McNabb.
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I don't see how drawing out a game longer equals more money. Look at the NHL. During OT, there are no TV timeouts. That's zero chances to get another stupid Kia commercial in. If a college game goes on longer then its scheduled time, the station will lose ad revenue. If anything, TV wants shorter games, which is why we have the stupid new timing rules.

I prefer the college rules over the NFL by at least a thousand. When's the last time you saw an exciting NFL overtime? When's the last time you saw a boring college overtime? I wouldn't even change college overtime a bit.
 
gth816f said:
Because that's pretty much the same system the pros have, and everyone hates it. It places a large deal of importance on winning the coin toss. The first team to score is almost always going to win because of the time taken in scoring. The only thing that would really differ from the pros is teams would waste the clock before kicking the winning FG.
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It isn't the same if it isn't sudden death. It might be more like basketball. And instead of flipping a coin they could give the ball to whomever didn't have it at the close of the game. That puts pressure on the team that chooses to play for a tie at the end.



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Just read the post more thoroughly. OK, make it 10 minutes. And I still think that not having another coin flip is best. The team that just tied the score should be on the defense. Maybe some teams would choose to play for the win in regulation then.
 
They're both retarded. They should just play another 15, I think 10 would even work, minutes and see who is ahead. The pro system isn't fair, and the college system inflates stats and seems to always take 2,3 even 7 times to finally decide it.
 
I side with using the college version and moving it back to the 50 yardline.

It is still a huge advantage to win the flip in college, even if less than in the pro game. If you go second then you know what you need to do (FG or TD.)


Or I could go for a "not-so-sudden" death version of the pro variety. Just give the opponent at least one chance after the first score in OT.
 
College Rule by far, except start at the 30 yard line. Having an additional quarter would give the "little man" a smaller chance of victory, and stories about Boise St. upsetting Oklahoma would decrease even more.
 
^ I agree. Starting at the 30 means getting stuffed 3X results in at least a 47 yard try. I am speaking off the cuff, but I would imagine the % of makes by college kickers is much more different than a change from 42 (if at the current, 25 YL) to 47 (if at 30), than from 47 to 52. But, if you just want either the very best kickers to have the advantage or you don't want to leave it up to the kicking game, 35 makes sense.
 
NCAA over NFL, but I'd be happier with them just adding another quarter, and another after that, and if that doesnt decide it (and theres still players able to stand up) ruby scrum for the ball in the middle of the field for possesion and go to sudden death.
 
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