Health Care Bill Details?

ramblinwise1

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Got this in an email. Don't know how legit it is. Enjoy.

This is a letter written by a Dr. Stephen Fraser to Senator Bayh. If you would like to send it on to your Congressman, he says to feel free to copy it and send it around to friends and to senators and representatives.



July 23, 2009



Senator Bayh,



As a practicing physician I have major concerns with the healthcare bill before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the patient physician relationship. The very idea that the government will dictate and ration patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a healthcare system that works for all. Every physician I work with agrees that we need to fix our healthcare system, but the proposed bills currently making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed.



I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.



Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!



Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.



Page 29 lines 4- 16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!



Page 42 of HC Bill:The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!



Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.



Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!



Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to you your banks accounts for elective funds transfer.



Page 65 Sec 164: is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).



Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.



Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!



Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation: illegal aliens.



Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.



Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed.



Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.



Page 124 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monopoly.



Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (salary)



Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!



Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.



Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.



Page 150 Lines 9-13: Business's with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll..



Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.



Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)



Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.



Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that!



Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.



Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same!



Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctor's time, proffession, judgment etc. Literally value of humans.



Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.



Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.



Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!



Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.



Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.



Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!



Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.



Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can u say ACORN?!!



Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.



Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.



Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!



Unbelievable!



Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy - Tele-health Advisory Comittee. Can you say HC by phone?



Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.



Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!



Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)



Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends.



Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced care planning consultant" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.



Page 429 Lines 10-12: "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!



Page 429 Lines 13-25: The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.



Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life!



Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations.



Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?



Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based organization. Like ACORN?



Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage.



Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.



Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.



Furthermore, If you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the country and destroys the doctor/patient relationship, I will do everything in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election.



Respectfully, Stephen E Fraser MD
 
Let's send this post to the death panel!!!

:FIREdevil::FIREdevil:
 
Get this off the football board. Unless the are providing medical coverage for Jaybo Shaw, I don't give a ****.
 
I never understand why people continue to not only believe these chain mails, when about 30 seconds of research invariably proves them all to be false, but why people feel the need to share them with other people without doing the 30 seconds of research(which they lambast others for not doing...). I REALLY don't understand the need to do it in a football forum. It's ironic because most of the time they say "I don't know how legitimate or real this is" so they basically know they are sharing false information.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m.../30/e-mail-analysis-health-bill-needs-check-/
 
The reason its here is because this is the most read forum. No problems with that. Especially with all the useless crap some of you put here anyway, get off his back.
 
The reason its here is because this is the most read forum. No problems with that. Especially with all the useless crap some of you put here anyway, get off his back.

So a chain e-mail that lies about the healthcare bill(you can find this out with a quick 30 seconds of google...or just read the first paragraph of his post) doesn't fall under the category of "useless crap?"
 
The reason its here is because this is the most read forum. No problems with that. Especially with all the useless crap some of you put here anyway, get off his back.

The reason this is the most read forum is because it deals with GT football and things related to it. I post in the off-topic forum, but this board should be football related. I come here to get away from that crap.
 
So a chain e-mail that lies about the healthcare bill(you can find this out with a quick 30 seconds of google...or just read the first paragraph of his post) doesn't fall under the category of "useless crap?"

Oh really, so I guess you read the bill yourself and figured all that out.
 
Oh really, so I guess you read the bill yourself and figured all that out.

Nope, I googled it and found sites that broke it down. Wasn't that hard. It's a chain e-mail. They're almost always lies. The guy who posted it said himself he didn't know how "legit" it was. Hopefully he doesn't get any from Nigerian princes.

EDIT: By the way, looks like someone else found this out before the good doctor! Some random site: http://www.pleasantonweekly.com/square/topic_print.php?t=2735

Wait a minute, I think that site stole it from an Army translator's hard work! http://www.ktradionetwork.com/tag/us-army-translator/ Or maybe it was the other way around.
 
Just no need to worry anyone.

The marxist in chief will tell you all not only how and when to die, but will take all the pain away by telling you how to live as well.

Enjoy.
 
Interestingly enough, some of that stuff already occurs in the current system in one way or another.
 
Wait a tick. Aren't people complaining that people can't even read the bill? Then how do they know this stuff? Or was it released? I dunno.
 
Stop! Now! This is the football forum, and this thread is not football related! The next person who posts in this thread is officially a douche bag.
 
It's related because Jaybo is injured.

Oh.

Wait.

****.

Wait a minute, we forgot Obama's in charge. Shouldn't all the teams we play be forced to play without their backup QB? So everything will work out okay for us!

And you guys said his election would be a bad thing...
 
Wait a minute, we forgot Obama's in charge. Shouldn't all the teams we play be forced to play without their backup QB? So everything will work out okay for us!

And you guys said his election would be a bad thing...

Good point.

Glad you mentioned that.
 
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