DRad email about GT/UGA game (new stuff)

coldbeer said:
The ACC now has a long-term "balanced" football schedule for each of the 12 teams. I doubt they would even consider any modification to it.

If we were to play a conference team away like Clemson or VT two years in a row, it would be FAR worse then this proposal (UGA game in 2011 at Dome for $2.3 million and 50/50 split on tickets plus plenty of prime-time exposure).
Click to expand...


You "doubt" but you don't know. We are as important as any other school in this conference and the acc had better be in a position to accommodate us or risk losing us to a conference that will. Nobody has said anything about playing one or both of those teams away for two years in a row. We have already done that. Its time that one or both of them play us here two years in a row.

You know, it seems that we keep looking for some else to give us money rather than talking about how we can use our own resources to right our ship. Our endowment on the GT Foundation side is twice that of UGA. How did we get there? Did we sell our soul on the academic side to do it? Don't think so. Why don't we use a similar approach to get where we need to be on the AA side.

I also have not been able to prove, or disprove the contention that the money form that game is not shared. I plan on calling the acc to fnd out when I get back from the fsu game next week. Until then, I have to believe that this would be a shared revenue game.

This "exposure" stuff is over rated. Let's talk about the benefits that clemson, or vt received from the "exposure" that they got form playing in the game. If you win, you are the talk of the town for a few days. If you lose, the talk is that your season is shot, and that you were over rated. Whether you win or lose, by the next weekend, most people have forgotten who even played in the game.

The dome sucks as a venue for college football. It sucks as a location for parking and tailgating. It sucks as a home game because it is not a home game. And it sucks because we will be playing the biggest, and most important, game of the season on the first day of the season.

This is simply a 40 pieces of silver deal.

I'm done. I'm leaving for the fsu game in the morning and won't even look at a computer until next week. If you have a burning need to have the last word in this debate, have at it
 
texstinger said:
Don't understand how they are not giving up a home game in 2012.
Click to expand...

Semantics.

I assumed that you meant they were giving up a home game in the series, which they're not.

You're correct in that they would give up a home game in that season.
 
JacketIM said:
You "doubt" but you don't know. We are as important as any other school in this conference and the acc had better be in a position to accommodate us or risk losing us to a conference that will. Nobody has said anything about playing one or both of those teams away for two years in a row. We have already done that. Its time that one or both of them play us here two years in a row.
Click to expand...

Georgia Tech isn't negotiating from a position of authority. We need the ACC as much as they need us. There isn't another conference out there for us. Are we going to leave for the Big East, Conference USA, or the Sun Belt?

We played VT on the road two years in a row to accommodate Boston College's entry to the conference as a 12th team. A few other ACC teams had to do the same. All 12 teams had 4 home/4 away games each year with 5 division games & 3 non-divisional games with our one permanent crossover (GT/Clemson in our case).

Now that the schedule is set for all conference members though the year 2018..... they aren't going to change it because we are unhappy about our odd year home schedules (Clemson, VT, UNC plus UGA). The idea that Swofford is going to force one of those schools to come back to Atlanta twice in a row now is laughable at best.
 
I don't care if we play a neutral site game against uga to even the schedule out and make some extra money, but we should never NEVER play our biggest game of the year and one of the oldest rivalries in football as the first game of the year. That's unacceptable.
 
Well, I'm not AS opposed to it after reading some of the positives.

First and foremost, I blame Swofford, and then I blame Braine. Due to the lovely fact we played at Blacksburg 2 years in a row, we get a crap ACC schedule of ThugU, UVA, and Duke. If we don't get a good draw cross-division, then our home schedule blows, like it will next year. I blame Swofford for yet again treating us the red-headed, non-Carolina step-child, and I blame Braine for not raising more hell in the first place.

In a perfect world, we would be in the ESS EEE SEE. In a slightly less perfect world, Swofford would realign divisions North and South, damn the balancing. Natural divisional dogfights with FSU and Clemson yearly and we wouldn't get a crap schedule every other year.

Assuming none of that happens, the UGA game in thre dome is the only way to balance home schedules, giving season ticket holder games to look forward every year and balancing out the GTAA's revenue.

I also don't think it will really be a UGA home game. We still have an inferority comples with UGA. We sell out, or come close to selling out, games at BDS with that aren't Georgia or Clemson, we have 28k season tickets plus 8k students and we can't sell 40% of the dome? And even if it does end up being 75/25 or worse, it still won't be near as much of a home field advantage as Sanford. The Dome is a prototypcial, soulless NFL stadium meant more for monster truck rallies and car salesman conventions than football. Stands far back from the sidelines plus a lot corporate tickets doesn't exactly scream home field advantage.

So...I guess I could see it either way. The 2011 season would SUCK if this happened, win or lose, but the 40 pieces of silver and the balanced schedule pays off in the long-run.

I also think we have more to gain in this deal than UGA. Their fans seem lukewarm at best to the idea. Tech IS their biggest rival and they know the history of the rivalry. The only real plus for them is the whole keeping another school out of your town for a free recruiting extravaganza. They hardly need the money and they would need to balance their schedule. At the end of the day, I could definitely see Tech going for it but UGA saying no.
 
mmbt0ne said:
I don't care if we play a neutral site game against uga to even the schedule out and make some extra money, but we should never NEVER play our biggest game of the year and one of the oldest rivalries in football as the first game of the year. That's unacceptable.
Click to expand...

Why?

I was a 4th generation legacy when I started in '91. Grew up going to games and remember going to many as a child where I could pretty much pick any seat in the stadium. I understand all of our traditions. I don't understand why it matters when the game takes place.

If you asked random college football fan in the Pac-10, Big-10, Big-12, WAC, Conf USA or Big East - how many rivalries would they rattle off before they get to UGA-GT? No one outside of the state cares about the GT-UGA game on Thanksgiving Saturday. When was the last time the game had national significance? 1990?
 
texstinger said:
Sorry for being so stupid but

2009 ugag at GT
2010 GT at ugag
2011 neutral (ugag not at GT)
2012 ugag at GT (suppose to be at ugag) So I guess out of fellowship they will say "yeah, we don't care. We will play 5 at home instead of 6", or however many they have scheduled at home now in 2012.


Don't understand how they are not giving up a home game in 2012.

swofford sucks, he could fix this right now.
Click to expand...
I'm sure they would adjust so they don't lose a home game, but am also sure it's something that they're considering as part of the whole deal.
 
JacketIM said:
You "doubt" but you don't know. We are as important as any other school in this conference and the acc had better be in a position to accommodate us or risk losing us to a conference that will. Nobody has said anything about playing one or both of those teams away for two years in a row. We have already done that. Its time that one or both of them play us here two years in a row.
Click to expand...
Nobody is leaving any conference over this stuff. If people think we have money problems now, just wait until we tried to pay the penalty for leaving the ACC. No way in hell.
 
JTS said:
They're offering to pay us a boat load of money and provide nationwide, primetime exposure against the backdrop of the enshrinement ceremony for the College Football Hall of Fame which they paid a boat load of money to have moved a couple of blocks from our campus. Who wouldn't want that?

If we don't step up and support the ASC here, we no longer have any right to complain about anything they do and should never expect them to try to do anything for us again.

And you guys do realize that there will be a game whether we are in it or not and that Ugag will be in that game. They'll get all the money and exposure as the featured "hometown" team. Their opponent will likely be one of our conference rivals (FSU, Miami, Clemson, etc......) that will jump at the opportunity to play in this game. Can you imagine the outrage if the ASC had announced Ugag vs. "blank" in 2011 without considering us?

It also bothering to me that we as a fan base are developing this mentality that a bye week or extra preparation time for our opponents is somehow a disadvantage for us. It certainly is an advantage to us when teams only have a week to prepare for our offense, but we need to be able to beat people no matter how long they have to prepare if we want to be regarded as a real football power.
Click to expand...

I was totally with you, right up until the part where I remembered we'd be giving Georgia points.
 
Well, I at least don't want to relegate GT-UGA to the status of poor man's rivalries by moving the game to the beginning of the year.

And anyway, I can't think of any other rivalry game that's had national significance the last few years outside of UT-OU. UM-OSU had their big 1-2 game, but Bama-AU and most other rivalries have had both teams be nationally significant recently. The game could become much more significant, but national significance is a pretty crappy measure to go by.
 
I've got JacketIM leading the card. Coldbeer has landed some punches but has a lot of room for improvement.
popcorn.gif
 
ContactBuzz said:
Why?

I was a 4th generation legacy when I started in '91. Grew up going to games and remember going to many as a child where I could pretty much pick any seat in the stadium. I understand all of our traditions. I don't understand why it matters when the game takes place.

If you asked random college football fan in the Pac-10, Big-10, Big-12, WAC, Conf USA or Big East - how many rivalries would they rattle off before they get to UGA-GT? No one outside of the state cares about the GT-UGA game on Thanksgiving Saturday. When was the last time the game had national significance? 1990?
Click to expand...

And not all that many people out of state will genuinely care about the game if it's played the first Saturday of the season. People may tune in just because there's a limited number of big games on that weekend, but it's not going to be built up as some sort of showdown for the ages. This game doesn't have the draw that Miami -F$U does regardless of when we play it, so there's no point in catering to the national audience that doesn't care about our rivalry.

If financial reasons lead us to playing this game, then so be it. I'm not going to crucify DR over it. I'll accept it with a minimal amount of bitching. I still don't understand why they can't schedule the matchup in the Dome for Thanksgiving Saturday though...I doubt there's anything scheduled this far ahead.
 
At the Dome, it will be a UGA Home Game. Every Redneck, Fat Pulpwood truck driver, Wal-mart employee, transplant Yankee who cannot read will be there Barking and wearing Red.

Thus a home game for UGA, we will be the guest in our back yard. Screw the Chicken Bowl and those, play the games at the respective school stadiums for the students and fans.
 
coldbeer said:
Now that the schedule is set for all conference members though the year 2018..... they aren't going to change it because we are unhappy about our odd year home schedules (Clemson, VT, UNC plus UGA). The idea that Swofford is going to force one of those schools to come back to Atlanta twice in a row now is laughable at best.
Click to expand...

Coldbeer is on the $$. What he is going unsaid here is:

If you think the ASC wants GT and a conference foe in this slot then you are the "dumbest someb@#$%" on the face of God's green earth.

Do you smell what the Rock is cooking?
 
The V said:
At the Dome, it will be a UGA Home Game. Every Redneck, Fat Pulpwood truck driver, Wal-mart employee, transplant Yankee who cannot read will be there Barking and wearing Red.

Thus a home game for UGA, we will be the guest in our back yard. Screw the Chicken Bowl and those, play the games at the respective school stadiums for the students and fans.
Click to expand...

You may not like playing off campus. I can respect that.

BUT If we get half the tickets for this one time game and we don't use the vast majority of those tickets ourselves.... then that is on us - the Georgia Tech Nation.

Not the Chicken Bowl
Not the Georgia Dome
Not the Univ. of Georgia
Not Mark Richt
Not Vince Dooley
Not Damon Evans
Not Chuck Dowdle
Not UGA VII

Stop blaming others about our piss poor fan base. If we can't get 30- 35K in the Dome for this game (which is 3 miles from our campus), that's on us. Period.

P.S. The Walmart bred UGA fans won't be able to afford tickets to this game.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top