AJ Green apologists

mm42: I see this kind of BS all the time. I raise a simple point: That the remedy of athletes against these *unfair* NCAA/NFL conspiracy rules is to refuse to participate and move on with something else in life. And rather than respond to that, you retreat into a bunch of textbook BS (some of which is consumer protection law, which has zero application here, direct or indirect or by analogy) that really has nothing to do with college sports.

If the NCAA is so so so so unfair, why are thousands upon thousands of athletes trying to sign up every year?

Or instead of answering me, you can go back to your econ and consumer protection textbooks. :biggthumpup:
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
I raise a simple point: That the remedy of athletes against these *unfair* NCAA/NFL conspiracy rules is to refuse to participate and move on with something else in life.
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It's not a simple point, it's a stupid point. The fact that people choose to participate in a system does not mean it is perfect.

And rather than respond to that, you retreat into a bunch of textbook BS ... that really has nothing to do with college sports.
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I apologize for trying to educate you on things about which you are ignorant.
 
mm42 said:
It's not a simple point, it's a stupid point. The fact that people choose to participate in a system does not mean it is perfect.



I apologize for trying to educate you on things about which you are ignorant.
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I have never said anything is perfect. This is what makes your entire position retarded. "Perfect" has nothing to do with my position. People have options and make choices. Most behavior is not "perfect" and I'm not here to tell you what is and isn't "perfect." Thanks for trying to educate me. Perhaps you should work on your reading and thinking.
 
mm42 said:
It's not a simple point, it's a stupid point. The fact that people choose to participate in a system does not mean it is perfect.

I apologize for trying to educate you on things about which you are ignorant.
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Wait.

That's your stance? That the NCAA is terrible because it's not perfect?

What a waste of time this has been.
 
gsu_paintballer said:
That's your stance? That the NCAA is terrible because it's not perfect?
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No, if you could read you would see that my point is that the NCAA is a labor market monopsony for football players coming out of college. Monopsonies set wages artificially low.
 
TechSBP said:
I agree that he broke the rules.

But I think everyone can see the obvious NCAA hypocrisy here: you can buy an AJ Green jersey--made popular by him--and he doesn't get a dime of it. This punishment garners sympathy for Green because that is ridiculous, although what he did was still wrong.
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You can buy a jersy that belongs to a university that just happens to have an S/As number on it.

Universities "getting rich" off this stuff? Where do people think the money to support women's sports and other non revenue sports comes from? Not ticket sales.

The asshole lied, and broke the rules and he knew it.
 
mm42 said:
Great! So, if it's not your business you won't care if the NCAA cuts the wage in half or doubles it, right?
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Right. I just object to people talking about what the NCAA should be forced to do, and implying that federal consumer protection legislation has some kind of application, and preaching about "unfairness." There is no unfairness. There is equal bargaining. Sign up with the NCAA or don't.
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
I just object to people talking about what the NCAA should be forced to do ...
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Why? It's none of your business, remember?

... and implying that federal consumer protection legislation has some kind of application ...
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You really need to look up analogy in the dictionary.

... and preaching about "unfairness." There is no unfairness. There is equal bargaining. Sign up with the NCAA or don't.
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"Take it or leave it" is not bargaining - that's what you don't get. But it's none of your business anyway.
 
It's none of my business. Or your business. Or the gov't's business. It's between the NCAA, its members and the athletes. This is my entire point. If those parties choose to make a change, fine. But forced change is not appropriate. If you cannot demonstrate a willingness or ability to respond directly to these points, don't expect me to continue this incredibly fun discussion.
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
It's none of my business. Or your business. Or the gov't's business. It's between the NCAA, its members and the athletes. This is my entire point. If those parties choose to make a change, fine. But forced change is not appropriate. If you cannot demonstrate a willingness or ability to respond directly to these points, don't expect me to continue this incredibly fun discussion.
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Who said anything about forced change? You just pulled that out of a random orifice.

It is my business because I'm part of Georgia Tech and I care how it behaves. So leave me and the other interested parties to discuss this and stop butting into things that aren't your business.
 
mm42 said:
Who said anything about forced change? You just pulled that out of a random orifice.

It is my business because I'm part of Georgia Tech and I care how it behaves. So leave me and the other interested parties to discuss this and stop butting into things that aren't your business.
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Oh okay, I'll butt out so you can resume this enlightened discussion with one of the other people here calling you a moron. :laugher:
 
This has taken fail to an art form, and then failed at it. Advanced fail as only GT could bring you.
 
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