Harbaugh has zero chill, starts Civil War 2.0

I will stay out of the satellite argument - although I believe Saban is right -but regardless, Harbaugh is #1 on my list of coaches I dislike and the satellite camp has nothing to do with it. I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone who really knew him personally that said good things about him. It's funny, his brother the Raven coach seems to be a decent guy and I actually like him.

This guy has a huge ego, no sense of humor and a demeanor that he is always right.
 
ramblinwreck24 said:
This is dumb. I coached a player that is in the NFL now and his tape didn't get him noticed, his visit to a Louisville camp did. A lot of HS players first get noticed at camps.
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You are being dumb. This is not about school camps.
 
ScionOfSouthland said:
Jim Harbaugh fires shot at Nick Saban and Alabama over recent rant

Jim Harbaugh wasn't going to let Nick Saban's anti-satellite camp rant slide on Tuesday. The Michigan head man fired a shot at Saban and Alabama on Twitter

The satellite camp debate just won't die, and on Tuesday it got heated up again thanks to Alabama coach Nick Saban and Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh.

Saban ranted to reporters at the SEC Spring Meetings on Tuesday about the dangers of satellite camps turning into the "wild, wild West."

Saban has been vocal in speaking out against satellite camps for a long time, but he was clearly upset by the NCAA's decision to continue allowing them by way of not fixing the loophole in the bylaws.

"Anybody can have a camp now and if they have a prospect, they can have a camp," Saban said. "Then you're expected to go to that camp and then they can use you to promote that camp because Ohio State's coming, Alabama's coming, whoever else is coming. Somebody sponsors the camp. They pay them money. What do they do with the money? Then who makes sure the kid paid to go to the camp? I mean, this is the wild, wild West at its best because there's no specific guidelines relative to how we're managing or controlling this stuff."

Saban was asked specifically about whether he'd feel the same way if he coached in the Big Ten like Harbaugh, who has been the most aggressive coach when it comes to using satellite camps to expand his recruiting reach.

"I'm not blaming Jim Harbaugh," Saban said. "I'm not saying anything about it. I'm just saying it's bad for college football. Jim Harbaugh can do whatever he wants to do. I'm not saying anything bad about him if he thinks that's best. There needs to be somebody who looks out for what's best for [college football], not what's best for the Big Ten, not what's best for the SEC, or not what's best for Jim Harbaugh."

Naturally, Saban's comments made their way back to Harbaugh, who responded with a shot at Saban and Alabama on Twitter.

"Amazing to me- Alabama broke NCAA rules & now their HC is lecturing us on the possibility of rules being broken at camps. Truly 'amazing,'" he wrote.

Hoo boy.

Harbaugh is referencing the alleged recruiting violations committed by former defensive line coach Bo Davis, which led to his resignation earlier this offseason. Davis reportedly had improper contact with multiple recruits during periods of the recruiting season when coaches weren't allowed to have any such contact.

The message is simple from Harbaugh: Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

Saban may have a point about some potential dangers of satellite camps, but Harbaugh isn't here for Saban's preaching about the potential for violations at camps in a year when a staffer had to resign over allegations recruiting improprieties.

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GT1992 said:
That is dumb. Any decent player is seen now. Every high school coach sends tape. Do you also want to make the stupid argument that players are being denied opportunities when there are a limited number of scholarships?
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No, any stand out player is seen now. As for the decent players Coaches are flooded with a few hundred highlight tapes a year. They only bother to look at the ones that other coaches have recommended OR kids that they've seen in person

You wanna make snide remarks go for it, but asserting that any decent athlete with a highlight on Hudle is gonna get a fair look just makes you look ignorant
 
Anything that helps the off season move along is good, and he does that.

but yeah:
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texstinger said:
And if anyone thinks these type camps will not hurt GT, you are in some twilight zone.
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Satellite Camps are a two way street tho. Granted GSU hosting 7 different P5 schools for satellite camps in our back yard may eat into the Atlanta recruiting pool. But if Tech is smart about it they'll start setting up satellite camps with schools like UT San Antonio and FIU to get contact with recruits in those areas that we normally wouldn't see
 
RyanS12 said:
öööö Harbaugh. He's just like every other pompous, arrogant UM alum that I have ever met. Look at me, I need attention, I'm better than you because I wear maize and blue. Maybe it's from living around them for so long but I hate the öööö out of them all.
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These hateful stereotypes you are espousing do not promote harmony and understanding in our divided culture. How thoughtless. But you are absolutely correct.
 
Whiskey Jacket said:
No, any stand out player is seen now. As for the decent players Coaches are flooded with a few hundred highlight tapes a year. They only bother to look at the ones that other coaches have recommended OR kids that they've seen in person

You wanna make snide remarks go for it, but asserting that any decent athlete with a highlight on Hudle is gonna get a fair look just makes you look ignorant
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What is your point? In the end analysis, there are a finite number of scholarships. What you are arguing is that colleges are doing a poor job of finding good players and a third party helps. This is crazy. If you are saying that cpj is doing a poor job working with high school coaches and good players are being ignored, I get that. There are thousands of kids who could get a Georgia Tech degree who are ignored for random reasons. Using one example is not a good idea. There is nothing to say that the player you referred to couldn't have made it at smaller school if he was really that good.
 
GT1992 said:
What is your point? In the end analysis, there are a finite number of scholarships. What you are arguing is that colleges are doing a poor job of finding good players and a third party helps. This is crazy. If you are saying that cpj is doing a poor job working with high school coaches and good players are being ignored, I get that. There are thousands of kids who could get a Georgia Tech degree who are ignored for random reasons. Using one example is not a good idea. There is nothing to say that the player you referred to couldn't have made it at smaller school if he was really that good.
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My point (the same one I made in my original post) is that: "satellite camps are a great way for HS athletes to be seen by programs that they wouldn't have contact with normally."

If Tech were to set up a satellite camp in Texas or California, they'd get a chance to see recruits in person that they may have never looked at otherwise. It gives the players more opportunity to get in front of the coaches and show what they can do. It also removes geography as a barrier. Kids that couldn't travel to Atlanta for camps would be able to go to these satellite camps instead
 
GT1992 said:
You are being dumb. This is not about school camps.
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The point is that it is about camps, whether it be school or satellite. It's an opportunity for an athlete to get noticed and not just be one of a 1000 highlight films that a coach has to go through. Your original point was that they would already be noticed and that is wrong. It is extremely hard to get an athlete noticed if he is not at a big or traditionally successful high school. Camps are by far the best way to do that and satellite camps give them an opportunity to be in front of even more schools.
 
Whiskey Jacket said:
Satellite Camps are a two way street tho. Granted GSU hosting 7 different P5 schools for satellite camps in our back yard may eat into the Atlanta recruiting pool. But if Tech is smart about it they'll start setting up satellite camps with schools like UT San Antonio and FIU to get contact with recruits in those areas that we normally wouldn't see
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Maybe we could bring that kid from the video who talks about building Iron Man suits?
 
Whiskey Jacket said:
My point (the same one I made in my original post) is that: "satellite camps are a great way for HS athletes to be seen by programs that they wouldn't have contact with normally."

If Tech were to set up a satellite camp in Texas or California, they'd get a chance to see recruits in person that they may have never looked at otherwise. It gives the players more opportunity to get in front of the coaches and show what they can do. It also removes geography as a barrier. Kids that couldn't travel to Atlanta for camps would be able to go to these satellite camps instead
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But that would mean spending money towards things that do not enlarge your coach's or AD's salary, and we know that is unacceptable.
 
Whiskey Jacket said:
My point (the same one I made in my original post) is that: "satellite camps are a great way for HS athletes to be seen by programs that they wouldn't have contact with normally."

If Tech were to set up a satellite camp in Texas or California, they'd get a chance to see recruits in person that they may have never looked at otherwise. It gives the players more opportunity to get in front of the coaches and show what they can do. It also removes geography as a barrier. Kids that couldn't travel to Atlanta for camps would be able to go to these satellite camps instead
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What I see is that you, as a coach, did not foster the relationships that would help your player get noticed. We can't afford the satellite camps and can't get into an arms war. Saban could actually benefit from this.
 
ramblinwreck24 said:
The point is that it is about camps, whether it be school or satellite. It's an opportunity for an athlete to get noticed and not just be one of a 1000 highlight films that a coach has to go through. Your original point was that they would already be noticed and that is wrong. It is extremely hard to get an athlete noticed if he is not at a big or traditionally successful high school. Camps are by far the best way to do that and satellite camps give them an opportunity to be in front of even more schools.
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So what? For the most part these are marginal players and basically are taking a scholarship from another marginal player. In the end, it is just like all those idiot parents who lock their kids into one sport in elementary school.
 
The problem with all of these camps, even before all of the satellite camp nonsense,is that the kids are running routes and drills without pads on. And as most of you know, there are kids that are better with pads, and kids that aren't as good when the pads are on. People argue that all of these camps help the evaluation process, but many times a kids "rating", which is way too overvalued, doesn't expose the fact that he is much slower in full gear. There are tons of kids out there that look like the next Calvin Johnson going against air, but have trouble cracking the 3 deep roster when everything is live.
 
They also should rate the recruiting classes 2 years after the kids have been on campus. That would give a much more accurate rating. I'll take a 3 star with a great attitude and work ethic over a 5 star primadonna any day of the week.
 
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