10 years ago today Rich Rod almost became the 'Bama coach

Best part:

Saban turned to his new boss and made only one promise.

"I just want you to know you've hired a horseshit football coach," Saban told Moore. "But nobody will out-recruit me."
 
cyptomcat said:
Best part:

Saban turned to his new boss and made only one promise.

"I just want you to know you've hired a horseshit football coach," Saban told Moore. "But nobody will out-recruit me."
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He definitely gets it. You can hire coordinators to handle Xs and Os. The best long-term head coaches administrate, make good staff hires, and recruit like hell.
 
Flywheel said:
He definitely gets it. You can hire coordinators to handle Xs and Os. The best long-term head coaches administrate, make good staff hires, and recruit like hell.
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I expect Orgeron to hire 2 great coordinators and recruit like hell and NOT match Saban's results. CNS definitely knows what he's doing on the sidelines. It certainly helps to have the best players - he couldn't dominate the NFL for sure - but he prepares his guys so that nothing is left to chance. If he's not a great game-day Xs and Os guy, I bet he runs some of the best practices in the entire FBS.
 
Fredge said:
I expect Orgeron to hire 2 great coordinators and recruit like hell and NOT match Saban's results. CNS definitely knows what he's doing on the sidelines. It certainly helps to have the best players - he couldn't dominate the NFL for sure - but he prepares his guys so that nothing is left to chance. If he's not a great game-day Xs and Os guy, I bet he runs some of the best practices in the entire FBS.
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Louisiana is a shithole. All of it.
 
Fredge said:
I expect Orgeron to hire 2 great coordinators and recruit like hell and NOT match Saban's results. CNS definitely knows what he's doing on the sidelines. It certainly helps to have the best players - he couldn't dominate the NFL for sure - but he prepares his guys so that nothing is left to chance. If he's not a great game-day Xs and Os guy, I bet he runs some of the best practices in the entire FBS.
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That's fair. Running good practices is a huge deal at the college level because you're so very limited by the NCAA in how much you're allowed to do. If I were a college coach, I'd focus on fundamentals over planning for each opponent, because about 20% of your roster is fresh out of high school any given year.
 
Flywheel said:
He definitely gets it. You can hire coordinators to handle Xs and Os. The best long-term head coaches administrate, make good staff hires, and recruit like hell.
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See Dabo. Dumb as a Clemson grad, but recruits well and IIRC takes a salary cut to throw more money at elite coordinators.
 
gtrower said:
See Dabo. Dumb as a Clemson grad, but recruits well and IIRC takes a salary cut to throw more money at elite coordinators.
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Yeah he can probably make more but he is still getting paid over $5 million a year.
 
cyptomcat said:
Best part:

Saban turned to his new boss and made only one promise.

"I just want you to know you've hired a horseshit football coach," Saban told Moore. "But nobody will out-recruit me."
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He should've said "But nobody will out-oversign me"
 
Flywheel said:
He definitely gets it. You can hire coordinators to handle Xs and Os. The best long-term head coaches administrate, make good staff hires, and recruit like hell.
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Saban seems to be a little more involved than just being a CEO type coach.
 
ronricks said:
Saban seems to be a little more involved than just being a CEO type coach.
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Fear. Coach K also strikes fear in his staff, players, officials.

Saban rules with an iron hand. The buck stops with him. I respect that
 
olgoldandwhite said:
Sabah could take his and beat yours or take yours and beat his!
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I don't have any reason to believe that. He just makes sure "his" are a lot better than "yours". He's obviously a great coach and can win championships like nobody's business, but he's always done it with incredible talent. His tenure at Michigan State was very Gailey-esque, and even at LSU, his winning percentage was worse than Les Miles'. In the NFL, where parity is the norm, he was not very successful.
 
Fredge said:
I expect Orgeron to hire 2 great coordinators and recruit like hell and NOT match Saban's results. CNS definitely knows what he's doing on the sidelines. It certainly helps to have the best players - he couldn't dominate the NFL for sure - but he prepares his guys so that nothing is left to chance. If he's not a great game-day Xs and Os guy, I bet he runs some of the best practices in the entire FBS.
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I'm sure he hires the best people he can to work under him for every aspect of the game -- recruiting, practices, gameday, etc.-- and he's able to accurately evaluate when he can just let them do their thing and when it would be valuable for him to step in.

That's what all great leaders do, whether it's a football coach, a CEO, or the President.
 
johncu said:
I don't have any reason to believe that. He just makes sure "his" are a lot better than "yours". He's obviously a great coach and can win championships like nobody's business, but he's always done it with incredible talent. His tenure at Michigan State was very Gailey-esque, and even at LSU, his winning percentage was worse than Les Miles'. In the NFL, where parity is the norm, he was not very successful.
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all true and all of which doesn't matter because if they win this year he will have half the natl championships since he got to Alabama and 12 losses in the last 9 years.

Almost everybody accomplished has a decade at their peak. Almost nobody has a peak of 40 years.
 
gthog61 said:
all true and all of which doesn't matter because if they win this year he will have half the natl championships since he got to Alabama and 12 losses in the last 9 years.

Almost everybody accomplished has a decade at their peak. Almost nobody has a peak of 40 years.
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That's awesome and I don't mean to diminish that. He's the best at what he does. But there is absolutely no evidence that I'm aware of that he's the type of coach that will "take yours and beat his". He had mediocre results when he had mediocre talent.
 
olgoldandwhite said:
Sabah could take his and beat yours or take yours and beat his!
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If that were true, he'd be a Superbowl champ in Miami.

The one time he had no talent advantage, in the NFL, he flopped like a dead fish. Saban is the best recruiting coach in the business, and at the college level, where you have to replace your roster every 4 years, that's the #1 ticket to a dynasty. But he is no master playcaller.
 
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