#18-CJ Jackson-OLB/Edge-Tucker High 4****

wesleyd21 said:
I grew up 2 miles from Tucker HS but went to Lakeside (odd districting).

When’s the last time someone from Tucker went to GT??? This is great!
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Didn't PJ Davis go there? Maybe I have the name wrong. The shortish but fast and pretty hard hitting LB? I think he graduated from SPX but didn't he start out at tucker?
 
LongforDodd said:
Didn't PJ Davis go there? Maybe I have the name wrong. The shortish but fast and pretty hard hitting LB? I think he graduated from SPX but didn't he start out at tucker?
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I think the RB transfer from Georgia played there…Marshall? God I’m losing my memory. It was under CPJ though.
 
wesleyd21 said:
I think the RB transfer from Georgia played there…Marshall? God I’m losing my memory. It was under CPJ though.
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I think we had maybe a RB that committed from Tucker but then decommitted and went to maybe UT? Pretty certain it was in the CPJ era.
 
LongforDodd said:
Didn't PJ Davis go there? Maybe I have the name wrong. The shortish but fast and pretty hard hitting LB? I think he graduated from SPX but didn't he start out at tucker?
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I was thinking PJ was out of Cairo, but I also might be getting him mixed up with a different LB
 
79tech said:
what does 'commitable offer or not" mean? Does it mean that when it say "offer yes" that it doesn't really mean they would take him as a commitment if he said "yes"?
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From how I understand based on talking with a few folks who are connected in recruiting one with Tech (non family) & one with Ugag (my Uncle who is a donor/alum) many schools will offer a kid but not allow him to commit until their plan A or B tells them no, then they will go back to said player and give him the green lights. It's a slow play tactic until your preferred options go elsewhere. Sometimes it works other times it backfires. But an offer is still better than no offer at all.
 
YellowJacket4Life said:
From how I understand based on talking with a few folks who are connected in recruiting one with Tech (non family) & one with Ugag (my Uncle who is a donor/alum) many schools will offer a kid but not allow him to commit until their plan A or B tells them no, then they will go back to said player and give him the green lights. It's a slow play tactic until your preferred options go elsewhere. Sometimes it works other times it backfires. But an offer is still better than no offer at all.
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An offer you cant' accept isn't an offer....
 
QuadF said:
An offer you cant' accept isn't an offer....
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Sure it is, at least on the surface. It just depends on the circumstances. It's a contingency plan more or less. Every school does it, including CBK I'd be willing to bet. You always need a plan A, B and C un recruiting, especially going after 4 and 5 star guys.
 
YellowJacket4Life said:
Sure it is, at least on the surface. It just depends on the circumstances. It's a contingency plan more or less. Every school does it, including CBK I'd be willing to bet. You always need a plan A, B and C un recruiting, especially going after 4 and 5 star guys.
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Sure, it's a contingency - which makes it not an actual offer. It's a pre-offer at best.
 
YellowJacket4Life said:
Sure it is, at least on the surface. It just depends on the circumstances. It's a contingency plan more or less. Every school does it, including CBK I'd be willing to bet. You always need a plan A, B and C un recruiting, especially going after 4 and 5 star guys.
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Dont the big schools Grayshirt or something to that extent to get the recruits on the team?
 
1990wspjacket said:
Dont the big schools Grayshirt or something to that extent to get the recruits on the team?
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IIRC, a grayshirt requires the athlete sit out of school a year so as to not start his clock. That’s a lot more commitment to a school than most will make, unless they are determined to go to a particular school only.
 
stinger78 said:
IIRC, a grayshirt requires the athlete sit out of school a year so as to not start his clock. That’s a lot more commitment to a school than most will make, unless they are determined to go to a particular school only.
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True
 
QuadF said:
Sure, it's a contingency - which makes it not an actual offer. It's a pre-offer at best.
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If the offer is extender, with a caveat, it's still an offer none the less. You're splitting hairs here. If plan A & B miss, plan C gets the green light with their offer. It's called slow playing the recruit in recruiting though many recruits know this is happening and go elsewhere. Its what was coined for how Saban has done recruiting for years with the term "processed".
 
1990wspjacket said:
Dont the big schools Grayshirt or something to that extent to get the recruits on the team?
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Yep. But there's also more. There's redshirt, which we all know.....But there's also grayshirt, blueshirt and greenshirt, granted blue is very rare. Saban at Bama utilizes grayshirting to the max which is why they always "oversign"

Grayshirt is not on scholarship, can't play or practice. They wait an extre semester before good to go as a student and player.

Blueshirt is on scholarship, cannot play, but can practice. They aren't really recruited per-se but are good to go once freshman report and start practice.

Greenshirt is basically early enrollment. They are on scholarship, can practice & can play. They're just enrolled a semester early. Basically like early signing day now.

This link breaks it down nicely: https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...a-football-grayshirt-blueshirt-redshirt-rules
 
YellowJacket4Life said:
If the offer is extender, with a caveat, it's still an offer none the less. You're splitting hairs here. If plan A & B miss, plan C gets the green light with their offer. It's called slow playing the recruit in recruiting though many recruits know this is happening and go elsewhere. Its what was coined for how Saban has done recruiting for years with the term "processed".
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We don't disagree on whether it's occurring or the mechanics of the processing. We're disagreeing on whether a contractual offer that cannot be accepted (or delivered) is really a contractual offer.

Perhaps it would be clearer if we referred to these as transient offers? or a trans-offer, if you prefer a shorter name.
 
QuadF said:
We don't disagree on whether it's occurring or the mechanics of the processing. We're disagreeing on whether a contractual offer that cannot be accepted (or delivered) is really a contractual offer.

Perhaps it would be clearer if we referred to these as transient offers? or a trans-offer, if you prefer a shorter name.
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We can, sure, no issue with that. I always tend to look at it as "verbal" only as thats how it's usually presented then kids are slow played and ir told to hold off and in many cases actively encouraged to visit other schools. Many of the football factories extend verbal offers to hundreds of recruits but only X are really commitable or would be takes, either plan A, B or C.
 
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