2017 Top 25

killerbuzz42 said:
The barking I have managed to translate suggests that their expectation is that their O-line "talent deficit" will be remedied and then they will roll.
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All by true freshmen too, right?

Logic seems sound.
 
JoeCakeEater said:
These rankings are terrible. Just pick the known factories regardless of any facts or logic. Really bad.
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This. "Article" should just be titled "Top 25 programs with name recognition, plus a few up-and-comers, minus a few factories"
 
gth874t said:
This. "Article" should just be titled "Top 25 programs with name recognition, plus a few up-and-comers, minus a few factories"
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to be fair isn't this true of every ranking through the season. Even the legitimate ones?
 
MtownJacket said:
According to USA today Tech shouldn't even receive votes (misses out on top 35):

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...uper-early-top-25-teams-2017-season/96119570/
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Next year is going to be another 2000. We're playing Central Florida, the Tennessee game will probably be cancelled when lightning hits Lee Corso's car but God's timing will have improved and Corso will be in it, with a transvestite hooker and a lot of bath salts, we'll be Clemson's first loss late in the season and ruin a possible title defense, and we'll beat Georgia by two scores but it will finally, thankfully happen on Grant Field. Then we're going to play LSU in the CFP somehow and get our ööööing asses kicked. But the paper planes will be lit. Bank on it.
 
The Jacket said:
Next year is going to be another 2000. We're playing Central Florida, the Tennessee game will probably be cancelled when lightning hits Lee Corso's car but God's timing will have improved and Corso will be in it, with a transvestite hooker and a lot of bath salts, we'll be Clemson's first loss late in the season and ruin a possible title defense, and we'll beat Georgia by two scores but it will finally, thankfully happen on Grant Field. Then we're going to play LSU in the CFP somehow and get our ööööing asses kicked. But the paper planes will be lit. Bank on it.
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I'm onboard with all of this.
 
cyptomcat said:
It's OK. We don't deserve to be ranked if we can't beat Tennessee.

Beat Tennessee (and the couple gimmees that follow), and we will get ranked within a week or two.
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Yep. We have the defending champ on our schedule and play in a strong division. Win out and we're top 4 easily.
 
Flywheel said:
Yep. We have the defending champ on our schedule and play in a strong division. Win out and we're top 4 easily.
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All ripe for our taking. Only question is if new QB Jordan Matthews can take us there.
 
MtownJacket said:
Same conclusion here:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/...-top-25-football-ranking-for-the-2017-season/
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ESPN's 2017 Power Rankings giving us some love:
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_...y-2017-power-rankings-florida-state-aims-high

1. Florida State Seminoles
What? Not the defending champs? We get it. Clemson is good. But the Tigers also lose Deshaun Watson and tons of NFL talent, while a young Florida State should be even better in 2017. Deondre Francois, Derwin James and a host of stars should make this team a legitimate national title contender for 2017.

2. Clemson Tigers
No Watson? No Mike Williams? No Wayne Gallman? No problem. Zerrick Cooper will be the intriguing quarterback-in-waiting this offseason, but get past the quarterback and Clemson still has oodles of talent, from Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence to Deon Cain and Ray-Ray McCloud. It will be a different Tigers team, but it’ll still be a very good one.

3. Miami Hurricanes
Is this the year Miami finally turns the corner and plays for an ACC title? We’re believers. Even without Brad Kaaya, the Canes return Mark Walton, Ahmmon Richards and a young defense that could be one of the best in the country. With so much transition elsewhere in the Coastal Division, this has to be Miami’s year.

4. Louisville Cardinals
They have the Heisman winner, but how much else is left on the roster? Lamar Jackson is a star, but the late-season swoon showed he can’t do it by himself. With so much talent departing from the defense, it’ll be interesting to see how Louisville recovers and tries to build upon a successful 2016.

5. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Coach Paul Johnson never stays down for long, and the Jackets’ late-season surge reminded fans how dangerous this team can be. Justin Thomas is gone, but plenty of talent returns, particularly on a young O-line and in a burgeoning secondary. The biggest questions will be up front on defense.

6. Virginia Tech Hokies
The 2016 season was supposed to be coach Justin Fuente’s rebuilding year. Instead, it was a return to 10-win credibility for the Hokies. The problem is, they might have been too good, with stars such as Jerod Evans, Bucky Hodges and Isaiah Ford leaving for the NFL. There’s still enough left on the roster for Virginia Tech to compete for the Coastal Division, but Fuente’s real rebuilding begins now.

7. Pittsburgh Panthers
Max Browne looks like a great fit, and there’ll be plenty of quality players surrounding him at quarterback. The biggest issue for Pitt is on defense, where the Panthers need to take a big step forward in the secondary if they want to be a legitimate contender for an ACC crown.

8. NC State Wolfpack
Dave Doeren finished strong to keep his coaching job, and he has ample pieces in place to turn 2017 into a big season at NC State. The offense has loads of talent, with quarterback Ryan Finley leading the charge, and defensive end Bradley Chubb’s decision to return for 2017 makes this a defense to be reckoned with.

9. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Wake made big strides on offense, and it did so without a single senior playing a vital role at a skill position. If the defense can maintain its success with a new coordinator, there’s a good chance the Deacons cause real problems for other Atlantic Division contenders in 2017.

10. Duke Blue Devils
Quietly, Daniel Jones put together a terrific season in 2016, and the defense, while enduring its share of problems, is filled with developing talent. It’s hard to predict a huge leap forward for Duke, but the pieces are in place for this to be an eight- or nine-win team.

11. North Carolina Tar Heels
Maybe we’re too pessimistic and coach Larry Fedora will find pieces to plug in on offense, but the loss of so many critical players at the skill positions certainly looks troubling, while the defense continues to be a concern. Chalk up North Carolina as the team that has a high ceiling and low floor.

12. Syracuse Orange
Coach Dino Babers said it will likely be midseason 2017 before his offense really clicks, but it’s the defense we’re worried about. Syracuse needs to find a way to stop opponents if that high-flying offense is going to do any real damage next season.

13. Boston College Eagles
BC needs to be able to run the ball better. It’s a pretty simple formula. When the Eagles can move the ball on the ground and chew up clock, they have a defense that can win games. But when the offense offers nothing, there’s just not enough talent to turn things around.

14. Virginia Cavaliers
We’re still high on the Bronco Mendenhall era at Virginia, but if 2016 showed anything, it’s that there’s a steeper hill to climb than most assumed. The Hoos will get there eventually, but not in 2017.
 
gtrower said:
ESPN's 2017 Power Rankings giving us some love:
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_...y-2017-power-rankings-florida-state-aims-high

1. Florida State Seminoles
What? Not the defending champs? We get it. Clemson is good. But the Tigers also lose Deshaun Watson and tons of NFL talent, while a young Florida State should be even better in 2017. Deondre Francois, Derwin James and a host of stars should make this team a legitimate national title contender for 2017.

2. Clemson Tigers
No Watson? No Mike Williams? No Wayne Gallman? No problem. Zerrick Cooper will be the intriguing quarterback-in-waiting this offseason, but get past the quarterback and Clemson still has oodles of talent, from Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence to Deon Cain and Ray-Ray McCloud. It will be a different Tigers team, but it’ll still be a very good one.

3. Miami Hurricanes
Is this the year Miami finally turns the corner and plays for an ACC title? We’re believers. Even without Brad Kaaya, the Canes return Mark Walton, Ahmmon Richards and a young defense that could be one of the best in the country. With so much transition elsewhere in the Coastal Division, this has to be Miami’s year.

4. Louisville Cardinals
They have the Heisman winner, but how much else is left on the roster? Lamar Jackson is a star, but the late-season swoon showed he can’t do it by himself. With so much talent departing from the defense, it’ll be interesting to see how Louisville recovers and tries to build upon a successful 2016.

5. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Coach Paul Johnson never stays down for long, and the Jackets’ late-season surge reminded fans how dangerous this team can be. Justin Thomas is gone, but plenty of talent returns, particularly on a young O-line and in a burgeoning secondary. The biggest questions will be up front on defense.

6. Virginia Tech Hokies
The 2016 season was supposed to be coach Justin Fuente’s rebuilding year. Instead, it was a return to 10-win credibility for the Hokies. The problem is, they might have been too good, with stars such as Jerod Evans, Bucky Hodges and Isaiah Ford leaving for the NFL. There’s still enough left on the roster for Virginia Tech to compete for the Coastal Division, but Fuente’s real rebuilding begins now.

7. Pittsburgh Panthers
Max Browne looks like a great fit, and there’ll be plenty of quality players surrounding him at quarterback. The biggest issue for Pitt is on defense, where the Panthers need to take a big step forward in the secondary if they want to be a legitimate contender for an ACC crown.

8. NC State Wolfpack
Dave Doeren finished strong to keep his coaching job, and he has ample pieces in place to turn 2017 into a big season at NC State. The offense has loads of talent, with quarterback Ryan Finley leading the charge, and defensive end Bradley Chubb’s decision to return for 2017 makes this a defense to be reckoned with.

9. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Wake made big strides on offense, and it did so without a single senior playing a vital role at a skill position. If the defense can maintain its success with a new coordinator, there’s a good chance the Deacons cause real problems for other Atlantic Division contenders in 2017.

10. Duke Blue Devils
Quietly, Daniel Jones put together a terrific season in 2016, and the defense, while enduring its share of problems, is filled with developing talent. It’s hard to predict a huge leap forward for Duke, but the pieces are in place for this to be an eight- or nine-win team.

11. North Carolina Tar Heels
Maybe we’re too pessimistic and coach Larry Fedora will find pieces to plug in on offense, but the loss of so many critical players at the skill positions certainly looks troubling, while the defense continues to be a concern. Chalk up North Carolina as the team that has a high ceiling and low floor.

12. Syracuse Orange
Coach Dino Babers said it will likely be midseason 2017 before his offense really clicks, but it’s the defense we’re worried about. Syracuse needs to find a way to stop opponents if that high-flying offense is going to do any real damage next season.

13. Boston College Eagles
BC needs to be able to run the ball better. It’s a pretty simple formula. When the Eagles can move the ball on the ground and chew up clock, they have a defense that can win games. But when the offense offers nothing, there’s just not enough talent to turn things around.

14. Virginia Cavaliers
We’re still high on the Bronco Mendenhall era at Virginia, but if 2016 showed anything, it’s that there’s a steeper hill to climb than most assumed. The Hoos will get there eventually, but not in 2017.
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Not bad.
 
gtrower said:
ESPN's 2017 Power Rankings giving us some love:
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_...y-2017-power-rankings-florida-state-aims-high

1. Florida State Seminoles
What? Not the defending champs? We get it. Clemson is good. But the Tigers also lose Deshaun Watson and tons of NFL talent, while a young Florida State should be even better in 2017. Deondre Francois, Derwin James and a host of stars should make this team a legitimate national title contender for 2017.

2. Clemson Tigers
No Watson? No Mike Williams? No Wayne Gallman? No problem. Zerrick Cooper will be the intriguing quarterback-in-waiting this offseason, but get past the quarterback and Clemson still has oodles of talent, from Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence to Deon Cain and Ray-Ray McCloud. It will be a different Tigers team, but it’ll still be a very good one.

3. Miami Hurricanes
Is this the year Miami finally turns the corner and plays for an ACC title? We’re believers. Even without Brad Kaaya, the Canes return Mark Walton, Ahmmon Richards and a young defense that could be one of the best in the country. With so much transition elsewhere in the Coastal Division, this has to be Miami’s year.

4. Louisville Cardinals
They have the Heisman winner, but how much else is left on the roster? Lamar Jackson is a star, but the late-season swoon showed he can’t do it by himself. With so much talent departing from the defense, it’ll be interesting to see how Louisville recovers and tries to build upon a successful 2016.

5. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Coach Paul Johnson never stays down for long, and the Jackets’ late-season surge reminded fans how dangerous this team can be. Justin Thomas is gone, but plenty of talent returns, particularly on a young O-line and in a burgeoning secondary. The biggest questions will be up front on defense.

6. Virginia Tech Hokies
The 2016 season was supposed to be coach Justin Fuente’s rebuilding year. Instead, it was a return to 10-win credibility for the Hokies. The problem is, they might have been too good, with stars such as Jerod Evans, Bucky Hodges and Isaiah Ford leaving for the NFL. There’s still enough left on the roster for Virginia Tech to compete for the Coastal Division, but Fuente’s real rebuilding begins now.

7. Pittsburgh Panthers
Max Browne looks like a great fit, and there’ll be plenty of quality players surrounding him at quarterback. The biggest issue for Pitt is on defense, where the Panthers need to take a big step forward in the secondary if they want to be a legitimate contender for an ACC crown.

8. NC State Wolfpack
Dave Doeren finished strong to keep his coaching job, and he has ample pieces in place to turn 2017 into a big season at NC State. The offense has loads of talent, with quarterback Ryan Finley leading the charge, and defensive end Bradley Chubb’s decision to return for 2017 makes this a defense to be reckoned with.

9. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Wake made big strides on offense, and it did so without a single senior playing a vital role at a skill position. If the defense can maintain its success with a new coordinator, there’s a good chance the Deacons cause real problems for other Atlantic Division contenders in 2017.

10. Duke Blue Devils
Quietly, Daniel Jones put together a terrific season in 2016, and the defense, while enduring its share of problems, is filled with developing talent. It’s hard to predict a huge leap forward for Duke, but the pieces are in place for this to be an eight- or nine-win team.

11. North Carolina Tar Heels
Maybe we’re too pessimistic and coach Larry Fedora will find pieces to plug in on offense, but the loss of so many critical players at the skill positions certainly looks troubling, while the defense continues to be a concern. Chalk up North Carolina as the team that has a high ceiling and low floor.

12. Syracuse Orange
Coach Dino Babers said it will likely be midseason 2017 before his offense really clicks, but it’s the defense we’re worried about. Syracuse needs to find a way to stop opponents if that high-flying offense is going to do any real damage next season.

13. Boston College Eagles
BC needs to be able to run the ball better. It’s a pretty simple formula. When the Eagles can move the ball on the ground and chew up clock, they have a defense that can win games. But when the offense offers nothing, there’s just not enough talent to turn things around.

14. Virginia Cavaliers
We’re still high on the Bronco Mendenhall era at Virginia, but if 2016 showed anything, it’s that there’s a steeper hill to climb than most assumed. The Hoos will get there eventually, but not in 2017.
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Pretty good look. Personally would swap us with L'ville but hard to gripe with this.
 
Flywheel said:
Yep. We have the defending champ on our schedule and play in a strong division. Win out and we're top 4 easily.
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We also have the defending champions of life on our schedule too, so yeah, we can take down two champions next year.
 
gtrower said:
ESPN's 2017 Power Rankings giving us some love:
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_...y-2017-power-rankings-florida-state-aims-high

1. Florida State Seminoles
What? Not the defending champs? We get it. Clemson is good. But the Tigers also lose Deshaun Watson and tons of NFL talent, while a young Florida State should be even better in 2017. Deondre Francois, Derwin James and a host of stars should make this team a legitimate national title contender for 2017.

2. Clemson Tigers
No Watson? No Mike Williams? No Wayne Gallman? No problem. Zerrick Cooper will be the intriguing quarterback-in-waiting this offseason, but get past the quarterback and Clemson still has oodles of talent, from Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence to Deon Cain and Ray-Ray McCloud. It will be a different Tigers team, but it’ll still be a very good one.

3. Miami Hurricanes
Is this the year Miami finally turns the corner and plays for an ACC title? We’re believers. Even without Brad Kaaya, the Canes return Mark Walton, Ahmmon Richards and a young defense that could be one of the best in the country. With so much transition elsewhere in the Coastal Division, this has to be Miami’s year.

4. Louisville Cardinals
They have the Heisman winner, but how much else is left on the roster? Lamar Jackson is a star, but the late-season swoon showed he can’t do it by himself. With so much talent departing from the defense, it’ll be interesting to see how Louisville recovers and tries to build upon a successful 2016.

5. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Coach Paul Johnson never stays down for long, and the Jackets’ late-season surge reminded fans how dangerous this team can be. Justin Thomas is gone, but plenty of talent returns, particularly on a young O-line and in a burgeoning secondary. The biggest questions will be up front on defense.

6. Virginia Tech Hokies
The 2016 season was supposed to be coach Justin Fuente’s rebuilding year. Instead, it was a return to 10-win credibility for the Hokies. The problem is, they might have been too good, with stars such as Jerod Evans, Bucky Hodges and Isaiah Ford leaving for the NFL. There’s still enough left on the roster for Virginia Tech to compete for the Coastal Division, but Fuente’s real rebuilding begins now.

7. Pittsburgh Panthers
Max Browne looks like a great fit, and there’ll be plenty of quality players surrounding him at quarterback. The biggest issue for Pitt is on defense, where the Panthers need to take a big step forward in the secondary if they want to be a legitimate contender for an ACC crown.

8. NC State Wolfpack
Dave Doeren finished strong to keep his coaching job, and he has ample pieces in place to turn 2017 into a big season at NC State. The offense has loads of talent, with quarterback Ryan Finley leading the charge, and defensive end Bradley Chubb’s decision to return for 2017 makes this a defense to be reckoned with.

9. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Wake made big strides on offense, and it did so without a single senior playing a vital role at a skill position. If the defense can maintain its success with a new coordinator, there’s a good chance the Deacons cause real problems for other Atlantic Division contenders in 2017.

10. Duke Blue Devils
Quietly, Daniel Jones put together a terrific season in 2016, and the defense, while enduring its share of problems, is filled with developing talent. It’s hard to predict a huge leap forward for Duke, but the pieces are in place for this to be an eight- or nine-win team.

11. North Carolina Tar Heels
Maybe we’re too pessimistic and coach Larry Fedora will find pieces to plug in on offense, but the loss of so many critical players at the skill positions certainly looks troubling, while the defense continues to be a concern. Chalk up North Carolina as the team that has a high ceiling and low floor.

12. Syracuse Orange
Coach Dino Babers said it will likely be midseason 2017 before his offense really clicks, but it’s the defense we’re worried about. Syracuse needs to find a way to stop opponents if that high-flying offense is going to do any real damage next season.

13. Boston College Eagles
BC needs to be able to run the ball better. It’s a pretty simple formula. When the Eagles can move the ball on the ground and chew up clock, they have a defense that can win games. But when the offense offers nothing, there’s just not enough talent to turn things around.

14. Virginia Cavaliers
We’re still high on the Bronco Mendenhall era at Virginia, but if 2016 showed anything, it’s that there’s a steeper hill to climb than most assumed. The Hoos will get there eventually, but not in 2017.
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No argument here.
 
If Mills can manage to stay on the team then I think Tech has a good season. I'm not holding my breath though.
 
gtrower said:
ESPN's 2017 Power Rankings giving us some love:
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_...y-2017-power-rankings-florida-state-aims-high

1. Florida State Seminoles
What? Not the defending champs? We get it. Clemson is good. But the Tigers also lose Deshaun Watson and tons of NFL talent, while a young Florida State should be even better in 2017. Deondre Francois, Derwin James and a host of stars should make this team a legitimate national title contender for 2017.

2. Clemson Tigers
No Watson? No Mike Williams? No Wayne Gallman? No problem. Zerrick Cooper will be the intriguing quarterback-in-waiting this offseason, but get past the quarterback and Clemson still has oodles of talent, from Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence to Deon Cain and Ray-Ray McCloud. It will be a different Tigers team, but it’ll still be a very good one.

3. Miami Hurricanes
Is this the year Miami finally turns the corner and plays for an ACC title? We’re believers. Even without Brad Kaaya, the Canes return Mark Walton, Ahmmon Richards and a young defense that could be one of the best in the country. With so much transition elsewhere in the Coastal Division, this has to be Miami’s year.

4. Louisville Cardinals
They have the Heisman winner, but how much else is left on the roster? Lamar Jackson is a star, but the late-season swoon showed he can’t do it by himself. With so much talent departing from the defense, it’ll be interesting to see how Louisville recovers and tries to build upon a successful 2016.

5. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Coach Paul Johnson never stays down for long, and the Jackets’ late-season surge reminded fans how dangerous this team can be. Justin Thomas is gone, but plenty of talent returns, particularly on a young O-line and in a burgeoning secondary. The biggest questions will be up front on defense.

6. Virginia Tech Hokies
The 2016 season was supposed to be coach Justin Fuente’s rebuilding year. Instead, it was a return to 10-win credibility for the Hokies. The problem is, they might have been too good, with stars such as Jerod Evans, Bucky Hodges and Isaiah Ford leaving for the NFL. There’s still enough left on the roster for Virginia Tech to compete for the Coastal Division, but Fuente’s real rebuilding begins now.

7. Pittsburgh Panthers
Max Browne looks like a great fit, and there’ll be plenty of quality players surrounding him at quarterback. The biggest issue for Pitt is on defense, where the Panthers need to take a big step forward in the secondary if they want to be a legitimate contender for an ACC crown.

8. NC State Wolfpack
Dave Doeren finished strong to keep his coaching job, and he has ample pieces in place to turn 2017 into a big season at NC State. The offense has loads of talent, with quarterback Ryan Finley leading the charge, and defensive end Bradley Chubb’s decision to return for 2017 makes this a defense to be reckoned with.

9. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Wake made big strides on offense, and it did so without a single senior playing a vital role at a skill position. If the defense can maintain its success with a new coordinator, there’s a good chance the Deacons cause real problems for other Atlantic Division contenders in 2017.

10. Duke Blue Devils
Quietly, Daniel Jones put together a terrific season in 2016, and the defense, while enduring its share of problems, is filled with developing talent. It’s hard to predict a huge leap forward for Duke, but the pieces are in place for this to be an eight- or nine-win team.

11. North Carolina Tar Heels
Maybe we’re too pessimistic and coach Larry Fedora will find pieces to plug in on offense, but the loss of so many critical players at the skill positions certainly looks troubling, while the defense continues to be a concern. Chalk up North Carolina as the team that has a high ceiling and low floor.

12. Syracuse Orange
Coach Dino Babers said it will likely be midseason 2017 before his offense really clicks, but it’s the defense we’re worried about. Syracuse needs to find a way to stop opponents if that high-flying offense is going to do any real damage next season.

13. Boston College Eagles
BC needs to be able to run the ball better. It’s a pretty simple formula. When the Eagles can move the ball on the ground and chew up clock, they have a defense that can win games. But when the offense offers nothing, there’s just not enough talent to turn things around.

14. Virginia Cavaliers
We’re still high on the Bronco Mendenhall era at Virginia, but if 2016 showed anything, it’s that there’s a steeper hill to climb than most assumed. The Hoos will get there eventually, but not in 2017.
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Wrong. There are only four teams in the playoffs, so we should at least be one spot higher.
 
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