9-5 .. not a shabby season
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No problem Hay. Deep down I'm as frustrated as any good alumni that cares deeply about Tech and our programs. Suffice to say, we had this game in our grasp and lost it. I'm frustrated as hell but I still can't turn my back on my team.
Go Jackets! We screwed up but you're still #1 in my mind.
Go Jackets! We screwed up but you're still #1 in my mind.
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I am dissappointed in how the season ended. I have a bad taste in my mouth, but by no way do I see this as a mediocre team or a mediocre season. Miami and Florida State had mediocre seasons. We lost 4 games by a combined 13 points including losing our last 3 games by 3 points each. Each one of those games was unfortunate and could have gone a different way in our favor, but to say that we went 7-1 in the ACC, winning the coastal, and played in the ACC Championship game and are spinning our wheels in mediocrity seems a little ridiculous to me. We just missed out on a "breakout" season, but definitely had a GREAT season. Our recruiting is also going great which should give Tech fans a feeling of encouragement, but this gloom and doom BullSh*t I keep reading is annoying and uncalled for in my opinion and I'm sure most other Tech fan's opinions, also.
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JoeCakeEater said:
Honestly, I quit reading at this point. Do you really think Fsu or UM would call their '06 seasons mediocre?
Mediocre means average, and is in the eye of the beholder.
Are you aware that Bobby Bowden fired his son this year, and that Miami fired their head coach that has played in 2 national championship games within the last 5 years?
Our season had some fun times, but we choked again down the stretch. Going ofer again since Thanksgiving makes this a very hard pill to swallow.
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When you've been sucking the tit of a golden cow then maybe Mayfield just doesn't do it for you anymore, but to say that a 7-6 winning record isn't mediocre seems stupid to me when there are 60 teams out there that would love to do that. They are dissappointed because their teams have fallen from Exceptionally GREAT to mediocre in the past few years, but that by no means tells me that their seasons weren't mediocre.
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Poll your question on the boards of Fsu and Miami, and see what you get.
I don't expect Tech to play for a title every year, but our nasty habit of flinching down the stretch every year under this regime is unacceptable.
It is not a player talent issue, at least not this year.
We just aren't finishing, and that is part of coaching.
I don't expect Tech to play for a title every year, but our nasty habit of flinching down the stretch every year under this regime is unacceptable.
It is not a player talent issue, at least not this year.
We just aren't finishing, and that is part of coaching.
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I'm pretty sure Tenuta is a part of that Co.GEETEELEE said:
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The cupcake argument is silly. If you're going to throw out OOC cupcakes, then Ohio State only had 9 wins. If you also throw out Illinios and Northwestern (who was horrible this year), that becomes 7 wins. You get similar results for just about every ranked team.
Now, if you want to do that for every single team out there and adjust your expectations accordingly, that's fine. But it's dumb to do that and still expect 10+ wins.
It was a good year, not a great one or a "special" one as we were hoping for after VPI. But it was still a better year than last year and much better than any of the first four years under Chan. I still point to how we lost to NC State and UVA last year, two teams much worse than any team we lost to this year.
It's progress that's become significantly tainted by three straight three point losses.
Now, if you want to do that for every single team out there and adjust your expectations accordingly, that's fine. But it's dumb to do that and still expect 10+ wins.
It was a good year, not a great one or a "special" one as we were hoping for after VPI. But it was still a better year than last year and much better than any of the first four years under Chan. I still point to how we lost to NC State and UVA last year, two teams much worse than any team we lost to this year.
It's progress that's become significantly tainted by three straight three point losses.
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pocket_watch,
Could the reduced scholarship numbers have anything to do with this? A couple of more skilled players ready to go on D could have kept our starters fresher. It also could have helped our special teams. I look forward to when we are once again on equal ground in the numbers game. Until then, it's hard to evaluate Chan or Tenuta. They have been dealt less than a full hand.
You and I will always disagree with coaches over particular play calls, but I think the late season/late game performances are impacted by a lack of depth more than anything else. I notice KMike and Wheeler's names disappear for large stretches of the second half. I don't blame either one of the players, they are flying around making plays and eventually, anyone with that high of a motor tires and becomes less effective. Could a healthy Tongo (sp?) have provided the needed depth to rest those guys? I don't know, but I believe it very well could have kept our stud linebackers a little fresher late in the game.
Could the reduced scholarship numbers have anything to do with this? A couple of more skilled players ready to go on D could have kept our starters fresher. It also could have helped our special teams. I look forward to when we are once again on equal ground in the numbers game. Until then, it's hard to evaluate Chan or Tenuta. They have been dealt less than a full hand.
You and I will always disagree with coaches over particular play calls, but I think the late season/late game performances are impacted by a lack of depth more than anything else. I notice KMike and Wheeler's names disappear for large stretches of the second half. I don't blame either one of the players, they are flying around making plays and eventually, anyone with that high of a motor tires and becomes less effective. Could a healthy Tongo (sp?) have provided the needed depth to rest those guys? I don't know, but I believe it very well could have kept our stud linebackers a little fresher late in the game.
The problem with the cupcake wins is when you are trying to show that a program is competitive and deserving of bowl opportunities you cannot afford to play more than one of these games a year. We already have one unofficially every year in Duke. I think we need a warm up game every year as well. My preference is to keep the money in state with Georgia Southern. The other game need to be a semi real game. By that I mean teams that will draw to the stadium. Could be Vandy, Army, Navy, Ole Miss etc. Might even be a mid major power like Boise or Bowling Green.
If I had my way we should play everybody in the ACC and declare a real champion and have one game to play a traditional rivalry.
If I had my way we should play everybody in the ACC and declare a real champion and have one game to play a traditional rivalry.
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9-5 but once again, not finishing strong.
Finishing 9-5 is typically not a bad season. When you consider that this season represents the fifth time since 1985 (6th since '70) that GT has finished with at least nine wins, you appreciate the accomplishments of this years team.
That being said, my problem is that the program seems to be stuck in neutral (talking about W's & L's here, I realize there is a tremendous recruiting class coming in next year), and if you look at records alone, wins and losses, the program has fallen a bit over the last five years.
From 2002-2006, The CG era, the overall record is 37-27, down from GO'Ls last five years ('97-'01) of 42-19. But what is alarming is the recent lack of success towards the end of each season.
From '02-'06, taking into account the last three games of each season, GTs record is 4-11 (7-13 if you consider the last 4 games of each season). From '97-'01 GT's record under the same considerations was 9-6 (14-6 in the last 4 games of each season). Certainly schedule balance could be considered here, but the point is pretty clear.
Over the last five years GT has won a division title, finished 1-1 in 'good' bowl games (2-3 overall) and gone 0-5 against UGA. The five seasons prior to that saw GT go 2-2 in 'good' bowl games (3-2 overall), and finish 3-2 against UGA.
Yes, 9-5 is a good year, but when you think back to Thanksgiving, when you were sitting at 9-2, ranked near the top 15 and had UGA, the ACC title and a BCS Orange Bowl bid in sight, 9-5 loses a bit of it's luster.
The final point regarding the close of this season concerns the QB play we saw yesterday. This frustrates me as much as anything about this season. I think we all realize now that TB is (and was) certainly up to the task playing Div. 1 college football. He had a fine game yesterday and I certainly feel he could have been a difference maker down the stretch of this season. If HCCG would have just given him some consideration at some point during the UGA and WF games, then we would probably be looking at a 12-2 season (11-3 at worst). And that, fellow Jacket fans, would have made for a season worth remembering for years to come.
Finishing 9-5 is typically not a bad season. When you consider that this season represents the fifth time since 1985 (6th since '70) that GT has finished with at least nine wins, you appreciate the accomplishments of this years team.
That being said, my problem is that the program seems to be stuck in neutral (talking about W's & L's here, I realize there is a tremendous recruiting class coming in next year), and if you look at records alone, wins and losses, the program has fallen a bit over the last five years.
From 2002-2006, The CG era, the overall record is 37-27, down from GO'Ls last five years ('97-'01) of 42-19. But what is alarming is the recent lack of success towards the end of each season.
From '02-'06, taking into account the last three games of each season, GTs record is 4-11 (7-13 if you consider the last 4 games of each season). From '97-'01 GT's record under the same considerations was 9-6 (14-6 in the last 4 games of each season). Certainly schedule balance could be considered here, but the point is pretty clear.
Over the last five years GT has won a division title, finished 1-1 in 'good' bowl games (2-3 overall) and gone 0-5 against UGA. The five seasons prior to that saw GT go 2-2 in 'good' bowl games (3-2 overall), and finish 3-2 against UGA.
Yes, 9-5 is a good year, but when you think back to Thanksgiving, when you were sitting at 9-2, ranked near the top 15 and had UGA, the ACC title and a BCS Orange Bowl bid in sight, 9-5 loses a bit of it's luster.
The final point regarding the close of this season concerns the QB play we saw yesterday. This frustrates me as much as anything about this season. I think we all realize now that TB is (and was) certainly up to the task playing Div. 1 college football. He had a fine game yesterday and I certainly feel he could have been a difference maker down the stretch of this season. If HCCG would have just given him some consideration at some point during the UGA and WF games, then we would probably be looking at a 12-2 season (11-3 at worst). And that, fellow Jacket fans, would have made for a season worth remembering for years to come.
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13-1 IMO if we played TB all season. The Gator Bowl should show all Chan backers how stupid he is for sticking with Ball at QB. TB 1st start of the season was better then Balls whole carer at Tech.Just think of what might have been if we had a real head coach who could get over himself and pull Ball. Has Ball ever passed for over 300 yards in a game?El Guapo said:
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Gailey's 5 season average:
7.4 wins
5.4 losses
This season he was just 2 games better than his yearly average. Wow, something that you can really hang your hat on.:rolleyes:
7.4 wins
5.4 losses
This season he was just 2 games better than his yearly average. Wow, something that you can really hang your hat on.:rolleyes:
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I don't think it's so much alarming as it is indicative of attrition and the lack of players we have had due to injuries, flunkgate, and NCAA restrictions.
While I believe our starters are pretty much as good as anyone, the nicks, bruises, strains and other minor mishaps that happen to all football players add up. If a player loses half a step because of a nagging injury, he is less effective and we still don't have the depth that other programs, noticeably UGa, has that can fill in. Losing Kenny Scott for the game may well have cost us the game.
We saw the same thing happen while O'Leary was rebuilding the program - a late season fade until we had sufficient depth to overcome it.