A-back pass

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Doesn't our system and especially the TO play set up an A-back pass perfectly? As long as the blocking is set up right the WR could fake the block(which he's done all game) release on the CB and be WIDE open running down the field with no one behind him.

just a trick/gimmick play that i've thought about a few times that i think would lead to an easy six. thoughts?
 
I watched every game and atleast 95% of the time the corner is in man coverage with the WR lined up in front of him. Therefore, faking a block on him isn't going to do anything b/c he's staying with the WR no matter where he goes or what he does. Defenses MUST guard against what your describing first and everyone does.

Now what may work is something like the WR coming down in appearance to make a crack block and turning it back up. That play would take some time to develop but we could probably get a chip on the CB if he followed the WR inside.

I think we will see just as many big plays through the air to our A-backs as we do to our WRs b/c they create the biggest mismatches on the field when you have a linebacker covering someone with their speed.
 
I watched every game and atleast 95% of the time the corner is in man coverage with the WR lined up in front of him. Therefore, faking a block on him isn't going to do anything b/c he's staying with the WR no matter where he goes or what he does. Defenses MUST guard against what your describing first and everyone does.

Now what may work is something like the WR coming down in appearance to make a crack block and turning it back up. That play would take some time to develop but we could probably get a chip on the CB if he followed the WR inside.

I think we will see just as many big plays through the air to our A-backs as we do to our WRs b/c they create the biggest mismatches on the field when you have a linebacker covering someone with their speed.

This could be what you mean, but a close thing to the original would be having the WR take some sort of slant route crossing the middle and have that A-back we sometimes put in motion to run down the sideline for a pass. That follows what you're saying about mismatches I believe.
 
I remember watching the Notre Dame vs. Navy game where Navy beat them for the first time in a millennium, or whatever. Notre Dame made an adjustment to start blitzing its corners on every play, leaving the safeties to cover the WRs.

Paul Johnson countered by throwing a wheel route to a wide open A-back, and they won in over time.

Not an A-back pass but, occasionally opponents to blitz the corners. But agreed that it's something you'd have to see in the game before you can attack it.
 
At GSU I dont remember the a-backs passing as much as I remember the wideouts doing a double pass. to another one sprinting down the field.
 
Therefore, faking a block on him isn't going to do anything b/c he's staying with the WR no matter where he goes or what he does.
not faking a block...blocking and then pulling the db aside and running down the field
 
Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. I imagine we'll see a variation before long. Something akin to a wing-T kind of a thing. Halfback pass. I can't wait!
 
I think the WR's will almost always see man coverage. The trick is that if we can force zero coverage or get the safety to bite on the option, I think an A-Back Option Pass play could be deadly. This assumes that our WR's can beat the single man coverage and the A-Back can give a well thrown, accurate ball.
 
I think the A backs might make better receivers than passers in a trick play like that, because they start in the slot and they're covered by LBs - a base mismatch.
 
Doesn't our system and especially the TO play set up an A-back pass perfectly? As long as the blocking is set up right the WR could fake the block(which he's done all game) release on the CB and be WIDE open running down the field with no one behind him.
just a trick/gimmick play that i've thought about a few times that i think would lead to an easy six. thoughts?

Why not just run, run, run, run, and run again, score?
 
Because passing might be easier, if we can execute it.
 
Ahh, then read my two posts, and I think we're both on the same page. :)
 
Gotya.

I have not seen an a-back pass that I can remember, and i'm too lazy to look through PJ's old GSU playbook online to see if there is one in there. You make a good point about who on defense would be guarding the second passer.
 
Yeah, I just think it makes a crapload more sense to have the WR do the pass, because it's a guarantee of one less CB covering on the play.
 
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