A little history...

Re: gtatsc

singlemaltnspringlake said:
Based on the picture included, you have put your all of your teeth to good use.
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Am I to be insulted? The comment was a joke, though with some anecdotal references, the way I see it is that in order to compete where we want in the SEC it might take recruiting to another level and in turn could go two ways: either we get more qualified kids interested or we are forced to take kids with lower academics. I love winning and love Georgia Tech Athletics but you can't deny the athletic teams DO reflect on every alum and the school and evidence of lowered standards just to win is not the Georgia Tech image I want. Personally I think there is nothing more gratifying than doing the right thing and performing well. If we could get in and maintain a current or higher level of requirements I'd be all for it but I don't think that guarantees wins.
 
RamblinPeck said:
We give Bachelors of Arts now?
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By definition, GT is a university--B.A.'s are not part of the requirement. Giving Bachelor's degrees is -- and GT does give bachelor degrees.

Wiki definition of university --
A university is an institution of higher education and research, which grants academic degrees at all levels (associate, bachelor, master, and doctorate) in a variety of subjects. A university provides both undergraduate education and postgraduate education. The word university is derived from the Latin universitas magistrorum et scholarium, roughly meaning "community of teachers and scholars"
 
BuzzMD said:
By definition, GT is a university--B.A.'s are not part of the requirement. Giving Bachelor's degrees is -- and GT does give bachelor degrees.

Wiki definition of university --
A university is an institution of higher education and research, which grants academic degrees at all levels (associate, bachelor, master, and doctorate) in a variety of subjects. A university provides both undergraduate education and postgraduate education. The word university is derived from the Latin universitas magistrorum et scholarium, roughly meaning "community of teachers and scholars"
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Well I stand corrected. I always thought/was told that the difference between and institute (be it art/technology/turf management) was the breadth of the curriculum, most easily distinguished as giving just one or both the Art and Science.

Thank you for the lesson :).
 
I thought the distinction for us was the fact that doctorates are not granted over enough of a variety of subject matter to qualify hence the discussion to offer more phds in other fields. Is this wrong?
 
gtyellowjackets said:
That's the attitude that I don't understand. I any sport on the playing field no one is thinking about academics. They are just trying to compete and win. So from the SA's standpoint they caould care less about conference affiliation.

To put it another way: When our baseball team lines up to play GA So today, do you think they are thinking about how GT's academics are superior to those of GA So? Obviously not.
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Let me explain it thusly:

"Attitude" is the correct word. It is an attitude that a student-athlete is not an athlete-student. It is an attitude that the university president and faculty are in charge of admission standards instead of the coaches and fans. It is an attitude which reinforces a concept that universities are learning institutions first and entertainment venues second.

When people put their money where their heart lies or where their mouth is, you can get a pretty good idea of their priorities. Among Tech alumni, it is clearly academics first and athletics second among the major contributors. Roll Call contributes more than $7,000,000 each year to academics. That happens to be their attitude and my reason the ACC is a better fit than the SEC.

Having said that, let me also agree that when players line up across each other for sixty minutes on Saturdays, academics take a back seat until the final whistle. Being smarter helps, but being big, fast, mean and motivated helps more. There are students who have all of these qualities, so we don't have to use Hargrave to put great players on the field and we don't need to be in conferences that routinely do.
 
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texstinger said:
GT's academic integrity will stand on its own. Are people saying when we were in the SEC, under Dodd, that we did not have a great University, or that we were cheats? (oh, Allen, we ARE on NCAA probation).
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Oh, texstinger, we are not on probation.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
Instead of calling it a B A, we call it a B of I E. *rim shot*
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Ok guy from Washington. I put up with that crap in school, today I'm defending.

My fraternity friends always gave me crap for being an IE, but they also very often said that the best engineering electives they took were in IE (probability, statistics, engineering economy, e.g.).

But my favorite. A year or so out of school, I was made plant engineer for one of the four plants in the area. This plant had ME's and EE's and ChE's working diligently to speed up the manufacturing machines, and had for YEARS. It was all we talked about in engineering meetings. Millions of dollars was spent on speeding up the machines without causing excessive wear and still maintain product quality, but it wasn't going well.

To make a long story short, with a little simulation and adjusted queueing theory as my basis, I moved some parts around (plant layout) and changed some things. It was great. During a one week shutdown, I changed the plant and got absolutely ripped by the mechanics and ME's, etc. for not providing enough (ONE) electrical 'outlets' in the area with the machine move. Ok, they got me and they made me feel the pain for being so stupid. (I was much more worried about the plant coming back at full pace than double checking if I had enough 'outlets' in one area.) It took an extra hour or so of labor to correct the problem. Egads.

The first shift back from shutdown, productivity went up 27%. By one week, productivity went up 35%. By one month it steady stated at up over 40%. Shortly thereafter the company changed it's long term plan (asking for more space) and shut down the third shift. Millions was saved overnight (this was in 1983). Those ME's, EE's, and ChE's went on to who knows what in their cubby holes as their big project became immediately obsolete. I went on to getting the single largest scale jump in our 20,000 employee corporation's history. Imagine (ary engineering) that?

Sorry I couldn't resist.
 
midatlantech said:
with a little simulation and adjusted queueing theory as my basis, I moved some parts around (plant layout) and changed some things. It was great.
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Way to go with the feng shui! Sell it how you will, but on some level, it strikes me as a bit of functional interior decorating. But in this case you're rearranging the machinery instead of furniture.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
Way to go with the feng shui! Sell it how you will, but on some level, it strikes me as a bit of functional interior decorating. But in this case you're rearranging the machinery instead of furniture.
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Please spare me a pissing contest, but tell me how a CE can throw his building blocks at an IE. :laugher:
 
gt7282c@prism said:
Way to go with the feng shui! Sell it how you will, but on some level, it strikes me as a bit of functional interior decorating. But in this case you're rearranging the machinery instead of furniture.
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If feng shui nets me a 40% increase in productivity then put me down for feng shui. Unless, of course, you are prepared to demonstrate that the productivity increase I can expect from pointless sarcasm would exceed it.
 
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