ACC Coastal Race Poll - Prior to Oct 24 Games

Who will win the ACC Coastal?

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ThisIsAtlanta said:
Our bestest most likeliest path to the ACC championship game:

Pitt is 3-0, and we need them to lose all 5 remaining games to avoid a tiebreaker with them.

Duke is 2-0 and we need them to lose 5 of their 6 remaining games to avoid a tiebreaker with them. Given that we need Pitt to lose to them, that means we need Duke to lose to UNC.

UNC is 2-0 and we need them to lose 5 of their 6 remaining games to avoid a tiebreaker with them. Given that we need both Pitt and Duke to lose to them, this is impossible. Therefor, we need UNC to receive a postseason ban for NCAA infractions.

Miami is 1-1 and we would win a tiebreaker over them if they lost 3 additional games including ours. Since we cannot allow them to lose to UNC, PITT, or Duke, we need them to drop games against Clemson and UVA.

UVA is 1-1 and we would win a tiebreaker over them if they lost 3 additional games including ours. Since we cannot allow them to lose to UNC, Pitt, Duke, or Miami, we need them to drop games against Louisville and VT.

VT is 1-2 and we would win a tiebreaker over them if they lost 2 additional games including ours. Since we cannot allow them to lose to UNC, Pitt, Duke, Miami, or UVA, we need them to lose to Boston College.

We're in!
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Should I book my flight?
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
Our bestest most likeliest path to the ACC championship game:

Pitt is 3-0, and we need them to lose all 5 remaining games to avoid a tiebreaker with them.

Duke is 2-0 and we need them to lose 5 of their 6 remaining games to avoid a tiebreaker with them. Given that we need Pitt to lose to them, that means we need Duke to lose to UNC.

UNC is 2-0 and we need them to lose 5 of their 6 remaining games to avoid a tiebreaker with them. Given that we need both Pitt and Duke to lose to them, this is impossible. Therefor, we need UNC to receive a postseason ban for NCAA infractions.

Miami is 1-1 and we would win a tiebreaker over them if they lost 3 additional games including ours. Since we cannot allow them to lose to UNC, PITT, or Duke, we need them to drop games against Clemson and UVA.

UVA is 1-1 and we would win a tiebreaker over them if they lost 3 additional games including ours. Since we cannot allow them to lose to UNC, Pitt, Duke, or Miami, we need them to drop games against Louisville and VT.

VT is 1-2 and we would win a tiebreaker over them if they lost 2 additional games including ours. Since we cannot allow them to lose to UNC, Pitt, Duke, Miami, or UVA, we need them to lose to Boston College.

We're in!
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I love how all of this is pretty well rounded and clear for what needs to happen. And then it gets öööö on hard by UNC:bowrofl:
 
southendzoneBEE said:
I love how all of this is pretty well rounded and clear for what needs to happen. And then it gets öööö on hard by UNC:bowrofl:
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I think TIA missed the most obvious answer. We need a 3 way tie with Duke, UNC, or Pitt with the third team being UVA, VT, or Miami. We can tie one of them.

See you in Charlotte.
 
GT1992 said:
I think TIA missed the most obvious answer. We need a 3 way tie with Duke, UNC, or Pitt with the third team being UVA, VT, or Miami. We can tie one of them.

See you in Charlotte.
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Oh hell yeah. It's time to break out the 3 way tiebreaker rules. This is why I am in this thread.
 
ACC said:
(Three team (or more) tiebreaker procedure will be used to break all ties to identify the Championship game representative. Once a team is eliminated from the tie, the tie-breaking procedures restart for the remaining teams. If the three (or more) team tie can only be reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaking procedure will then be applied).

Combined head-to-head winning percentage among the tied teams.

Winning percentage of the tied teams within the division.

Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference winning percentage, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken fi rst to last, using the league’s tie-breaking procedures.

Combined winning percentage versus all common non-divisional opponents.

Combined winning percentage versus all non-divisional opponents.

Winning percentage versus common non-divisional opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference winning percentage) and proceeding through other common non-divisional opponents based upon their divisional order of finish.

The tied team with the highest ranking in the full Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the two-team tiebreaking procedure shall be applied between the top two ranked tied teams. If all tied teams are not ranked in the full Bowl Championship Series Standings, the computer ranking portion of the Standings will be used, eliminating the high and the low computer ranking, and averaging the remaining rankings.

The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner or Commissioner’s designee.
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I find it odd we still rely on the BCS rankings in the official tiebreakers. These probably need to be updated.

EDIT: Aaaaaaand I have no idea how to apply these.
 
If only we could win the division and the ACCCG with a 3-5 conference record. We could be the worst team ever to play in the Orange Bowl.
 
southendzoneBEE said:
So what is the official way to the ACCCG now? This may be the last week we get to pipe dream
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We have to find a 3 way tie scenario that, using the 3 way tiebreaker rules, resolves into a 2 way tie between us and a team which we will beat using the 2 way tiebreaker rules.

I'd construct the exact scenario, but I have no idea what some of the 3 way tiebreaker rules actually mean.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
We have to find a 3 way tie scenario that, using the 3 way tiebreaker rules, resolves into a 2 way tie between us and a team which we will beat using the 2 way tiebreaker rules.

I'd construct the exact scenario, but I have no idea what some of the 3 way tiebreaker rules actually mean.
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Somehow, Miami, VT, or Virginia has to end up tied with us and Duke, UN, and Pitt must not end up better than 3-3 in the Coastal. I'm not sure I can find the path because someone has to win each game. I think our best chance ends up requiring Wake beating Duke in their rivalry game.
 
GT1992 said:
Somehow, Miami, VT, or Virginia has to end up tied with us and Duke, UN, and Pitt must not end up better than 3-3 in the Coastal. I'm not sure I can find the path because someone has to win each game. I think our best chance ends up requiring Wake beating Duke in their rivalry game.
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Wake holds all of the cards.
 
Okay here's the deal:

If Pittsburgh wins a Coastal game we're ööööed, because they're already 3-0 in division. Actually we're probably ööööed if they win at all unless something really ridiculous happens like a 5 way tie.

UNC and Duke need to beat Pitt, but lose every other game. When they play each other one of them would end up 3-5 and the other 4-4. This would put them in a three-way tie with us and Miami or VT or UVA. They would also have the same divisional record as us. I'm pretty sure the tiebreaker would end up with BCS ranking.

Basically, it's still mathematically possible.
 
This is the hard hitting questions I come to ST for

In the midst of our worst season in two decades, how can we still win the division?
 
Actually, it looks pretty grim. If Miami beat UNC and Duke and Pitt like we need them to, this puts them at 4-2 in the division.

We may need NCAA sanctions after all.
 
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Our best bet is probably for Pitt to whip ass and go 8-0 and then accept a $312 pair of jeans just before the championship game.
 
GTMom said:
This thread is not helping my headache....
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