ACC refs and Oline Blocking

Wreck02

Wreck02

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Has anyone else wondered how ACC refs will initially react to a conference team using "cut blocking" each week?

It would seem that because of their unfamiliarity with it and history of poor penalty calls, they may tend to make some bogus calls against GT with its new blocking style.

I won't ask if this is plausible, because it is, but do you think there will be a higher likelyhood that early on, refs will poorly penalize GT though they engage the DL legally?

Just something I've been thinking about.
 
considering refs these days miss field goal calls, I definitely expect there to be some miscalls against us...
 
Haha, true. I hear everyone talk about fumbling being the biggest disadvantage to our offense moving the ball this year but I think that refs making poor calls may be huge hinderance.
 
They never seem to call fsu and wf that much for chop blocking. Once this offense gets rolling then all the teams will be calling in on Monday bitching when they get their arses handed to them.
 
The Jacket said:
I am more concerned about increased holding calls, mostly.
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not i. We aren't locking on to our defenders, we are scooping or hitting and moving to the next level. If our OL locks on we can't get to the next level. I actually think holding will go down this year....its a very direct quick blocking scheme
 
33jacket said:
not i. We aren't locking on to our defenders, we are scooping or hitting and moving to the next level. If our OL locks on we can't get to the next level. I actually think holding will go down this year....its a very direct quick blocking scheme
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I hate this forum.
 
I dont think bad calls will be a problem. Chop blocking is a lot easier call for a ref to see than a hold. Calling a chop block that never happened would be a very blatant case of terry donahue.
 
Also, the chop block rule was simplified this year, so there are no exceptions - any case of two blockers going high and low on a defender is a chop block.

As long as we're blocking legally (i.e., if you go low someone else can't go block the guy high) chop blocking should not be an issue.
 
refrigeratormover said:
They never seem to call fsu and wf that much for chop blocking. Once this offense gets rolling then all the teams will be calling in on Monday bitching when they get their arses handed to them.
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My thoughts exactly. The Deacs have been consistently guilty of this over the last 7 or 8 years.
 
Wreck02 said:
Has anyone else wondered how ACC refs will initially react to a conference team using "cut blocking" each week?
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Every team cuts in some situations and Wake has been using it quite a bit ever since Grobe has been there. This is nothing ACC refs haven't seen.
 
refrigeratormover said:
They never seem to call fsu and wf that much for chop blocking. Once this offense gets rolling then all the teams will be calling in on Monday bitching when they get their arses handed to them.
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RM, were you following Tech when Tierney, Shields, Simmons, Hill, et al were kicking folk all over BDS? Hill was huge at 6'7" 275. Sat right in front of me in Physics. Those guys could flat out move! Dewberry ran a similar type O when you were there, right? Not strictly TO, but alot of play action, and lots middle fake and toss to Collier and Mays. Pretty much two-back I stuff. Seems that's what our type athlete excells at. Less so just straight pro set.
 
First, I hope we are taught to block legally. My problem with Duke (holding) and Wake (cut blocking) is that they seem to be taught to block illegally and then dare refs to call them on it.

I don't expect us to block illegally and be guilty of a true chop block. In an option offense you fire out quick and block low. The main thing is to be quick and make contact. What aggravates defensive linemen is their knees and legs are constantly being blocked if they stand up at all. I do hope we bother DL's and LB's from other teams and get into their heads and frustrate them. I think Wake does that.

What will aggravate me is if ACC refs give in to complaints and flag us unfairly. That is within the realm of possibility.
 
Chop blocking means two guys are blocking one man - one high and one low. As long as we're blocking man to man there can be no chop block. The only flags they can throw in that case would be for normal stuff, like holding, clipping or block in the back. Why is everyone so worried? There is nothing new about a cut block nor is there any ref in the country who hasn't seen it. This is a non issue, that just pisses off DL because they like to fly in without worrying about protecting their legs. They will adjust their play to compensate which is to our advantage.

There is nothing illegal about a cut block it. Your comment about Wake makes no sense unless you mean chop blocking.

Personally I take offense at the suggestion that there is any question about whether our players will be taught illegal tactics. Not saying that's what you mean, but even questioning it makes no sense to me.
 
The Jacket said:
I am more concerned about increased holding calls, mostly.
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Funny, I read your response about increased holding and how that applies to Boston College, et al and not us. Holding is a real problem in the ACC and it needs to be addressed. But the good news is that our style of football should translate to the least amount of holding going on.
 
What will aggravate me is if ACC refs give in to complaints and flag us unfairly. That is within the realm of possibility.
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Yup.

All it takes for ACC officials to start flagging Tech unfairly is for UNC to complain to Swofford.
 
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