ACC Super Conference Plan
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DixieJacket
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Then explain why ND signed a contract with the ACC (as it exists now) that if they were to join a conference they must join the ACC? I don't understand why everyone keeps saying ND will NEVER join the ACC. If that were the case then why did they sign the contract stating that very thing? Do I really believe that this ACC SC will happen? No, but I also don't believe that ND will NEVER join the ACC either.
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They signed the contract that looked best for them at the time, but stuff has happened since then. Namely, the B1G and SEC getting massive TV deals and the ACC being left in the dust. ND isn't going to join a third rate conference and they have the pull and the $ to get out of said contract, obviously, if they are even talking to the B1G.
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If ESPN decides they want FSU, Clemson and/or Miami in the SEC, the ACC GOR will no longer be an issue.
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Will it happen? That probably depends on how much ESPN is willing to pay for it...
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God I hate this more than anything. This would be the worst.Will it happen? That probably depends on how much ESPN is willing to pay for it...
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Pac-12 rallies behind scenes
1. Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colorado were reported late last week to be leaning into a possible contingency escape to the Big 12 themselves, but I’m told by a high-ranking official at one of those universities to pump the brakes on that speculation. “There is no meeting on the books for us with the Big 12,” the source said, “and George is kicking ass.”
2. Former Fox Sports Network president Bob Thompson told me last week that he estimated the Pac-12’s next media rights contract would command $500 million a year before the defection. With the Los Angeles’ television market gone, Thompson says the Pac-12’s media value is reduced to $300 million a year.
That appears to be a 40-percent wholesale discount. But it pencils out to a 28 percent reduction, per university, given that the $300 million would now be split only 10 ways ($30 million each) vs. $500 million being split 12 ways ($41.6 million each).
3. Any potential university (Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, etc.) that might be added to the Pac-12 needs to bring more than $30 million in annual media revenue value (or take a steep discount) for the numbers to work. Notre Dame, for example, works. It’s why the Big Ten is so busy chasing the Irish. Boise State? Probably not, unless it takes a deeply discounted cut. There are only 517,000 television homes in Idaho. Currently, Boise State is getting $4 million a year from CBS and FS1 as part of their contract with the Mountain West Conference. “They probably deserve more than that for what they bring to the MWC,” Thompson said, “but I’d have a hard time ascribing much more than $8 million if they were to join the Pac-12.”
4. Pac-12 issued a statement on Tuesday morning, indicating that its board had authorized the conference to “immediately” begin negotiations for the next media rights agreement. Sounds like the Pac-12 already has a media partner (ESPN? Apple?) and is ready to move forward with a new plan. My hunch is the Pac-12 accelerated the negotiation because it has some specific additional conference additions (from the Big 12? ACC?) in mind.
5. Oregon Gov. Kate Brown may throw a wrinkle into the UO plans. There’s been some speculation that she might step in and attempt to force the Ducks to stay in lockstep with Oregon State. Some lawmakers in Washington have indicated they’d do the same on Washington State’s behalf.
6. A source at UCLA told me that the discussions with the Big Ten got intense about eight weeks ago. Also, I’m told that USC and UCLA didn’t communicate with each other about their Pac-12 departures until “the 11th hour” when Bruins’ AD Martin Jarmond and Trojans’ AD Mike Bohn got on the phone together. Said one source, “I can’t believe this didn’t get leaked.”
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1. Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colorado were reported late last week to be leaning into a possible contingency escape to the Big 12 themselves, but I’m told by a high-ranking official at one of those universities to pump the brakes on that speculation. “There is no meeting on the books for us with the Big 12,” the source said, “and George is kicking ass.”
2. Former Fox Sports Network president Bob Thompson told me last week that he estimated the Pac-12’s next media rights contract would command $500 million a year before the defection. With the Los Angeles’ television market gone, Thompson says the Pac-12’s media value is reduced to $300 million a year.
That appears to be a 40-percent wholesale discount. But it pencils out to a 28 percent reduction, per university, given that the $300 million would now be split only 10 ways ($30 million each) vs. $500 million being split 12 ways ($41.6 million each).
3. Any potential university (Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, etc.) that might be added to the Pac-12 needs to bring more than $30 million in annual media revenue value (or take a steep discount) for the numbers to work. Notre Dame, for example, works. It’s why the Big Ten is so busy chasing the Irish. Boise State? Probably not, unless it takes a deeply discounted cut. There are only 517,000 television homes in Idaho. Currently, Boise State is getting $4 million a year from CBS and FS1 as part of their contract with the Mountain West Conference. “They probably deserve more than that for what they bring to the MWC,” Thompson said, “but I’d have a hard time ascribing much more than $8 million if they were to join the Pac-12.”
4. Pac-12 issued a statement on Tuesday morning, indicating that its board had authorized the conference to “immediately” begin negotiations for the next media rights agreement. Sounds like the Pac-12 already has a media partner (ESPN? Apple?) and is ready to move forward with a new plan. My hunch is the Pac-12 accelerated the negotiation because it has some specific additional conference additions (from the Big 12? ACC?) in mind.
5. Oregon Gov. Kate Brown may throw a wrinkle into the UO plans. There’s been some speculation that she might step in and attempt to force the Ducks to stay in lockstep with Oregon State. Some lawmakers in Washington have indicated they’d do the same on Washington State’s behalf.
6. A source at UCLA told me that the discussions with the Big Ten got intense about eight weeks ago. Also, I’m told that USC and UCLA didn’t communicate with each other about their Pac-12 departures until “the 11th hour” when Bruins’ AD Martin Jarmond and Trojans’ AD Mike Bohn got on the phone together. Said one source, “I can’t believe this didn’t get leaked.”
Canzano: Oregon Ducks make a wish list, while Pac-12 rallies behind scenes
Ducks covet Big Ten or SEC invite.
www.johncanzano.com
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So there you go, IF anything else happens, it'll probably be atleast another 7 weeks from now. If that news involves GT, I'm sure it'll get its own new thread.
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It says they started 8 weeks ago and kept it quiet. How do you know we haven't been talking to them until now?
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What does the new CFP look like with this new CFB Expansion?
It wouldn't shock me if we see a 6-team playoff (something that I thought would have been pointless up until a week ago) with the SEC and Big Ten champs get byes (e.g. SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl and Big Ten goes to the Rose Bowl) and 4 at-large teams have play-in games in December. Bottom line is that the new playoff (which might very well just be an extension of today's playoff) is going to be whatever the Big Ten and SEC say it will be. That's actually how the current CFP ended up being created too, but it's even more acute now where they don't even have to pretend to listen to the concerns of anyone else.
Who is to blame? The ACC!
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It wouldn't shock me if we see a 6-team playoff (something that I thought would have been pointless up until a week ago) with the SEC and Big Ten champs get byes (e.g. SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl and Big Ten goes to the Rose Bowl) and 4 at-large teams have play-in games in December. Bottom line is that the new playoff (which might very well just be an extension of today's playoff) is going to be whatever the Big Ten and SEC say it will be. That's actually how the current CFP ended up being created too, but it's even more acute now where they don't even have to pretend to listen to the concerns of anyone else.
Who is to blame? The ACC!
CFP expansion: Is the answer cutting conference championships? - Sports Illustrated
ACC commish Jim Phillips has a point, but there’s an obvious way around it.
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verdi
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Nah, let’s just offer Bama
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Things are so backwards in college athletics…schools are now commodities traded on the media wall street with zero consideration to academics. ….but the players get paid so everything will be okay! I’m sure this will all turn out well.
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Oh lord, a whole Coastal conference instead of just a division!