ajc says 2 more dawgs go to jail

I was at an apartment up near Kennesaw College a few years back, and the guys next door were throwing a big keg party. Turns out, everyone at the party were cops. We could hear everything through the walls. So they get all ****faced drunk and run out of beer, and have this big moral dilemma. Wanna hear what the dilemma was? Sure you do.

The dilemma was NOT "should we drive drunk to get more beer?" but rather "While we drive drunk to get more beer, should we take a personal vehicle and risk getting pulled over, or take a SQUAD CAR to ensure not getting a DUI?"

No joke.


I have no love for cops. They're 95% jackasses who care nothing about protecting the public, who drive the other honest 5% out of the line of work. My hate for UGA football players, and for UGA students in general, vastly exceeds my hate for cops though.
 
On the way home we figure out that someone had broken into the apartment (we now think it was someone we had caught earlier that night trying to steal an iPod), and had somewhat trashed the place. The girl at the apartment woke up and heard it, opened her door, saw someone walk through one of the doorways, and slammed and locked her door. She called us, then called the police. The police were there before us, and we just stayed outside. Nothing actually get stolen, although all of the laptops were in a stack along with a pile of jewelry. The cops look around inside and out of the apartment, and say they can't find anyone. One of the cops finishes getting the scared roommate's statement, while the other one pulls all the rest of us aside.

He then goes to tell us that we should be ashamed of ourselves, and that this kind of **** isn't funny. That we owe the girl an apology and should fess up for letting this kind of joke get out of hand. We tell him flat out that we were at Waffle House the entire time. After trying to reasonably tell him what happened, I just walk away, soon to be followed by everyone else.

So someone breaks into the apartment and stacks stuff up to take. Then hears someone is still home and runs from the apartment. If I were a cop, I wouldn't believe that either.

Just guessing here, but if I we rummaging through an apartment and found jewelry, I would stick it in my pocket (unless I had no pockets or it was a tiara). I also wouldn't stack things up to take. I would hold onto whatever I thought was the most valuable (like a laptop). But most of the thefts I have had experience with have been the smash and grab type.

Again, just guessing, but I bet the cop has seen other break-ins before and thought this one looked a little strange. If you and your friends didn't look concerned, but we instead joking around, I might assume you played a prank too.
 
So someone breaks into the apartment and stacks stuff up to take. Then hears someone is still home and runs from the apartment. If I were a cop, I wouldn't believe that either.

Just guessing here, but if I we rummaging through an apartment and found jewelry, I would stick it in my pocket (unless I had no pockets or it was a tiara). I also wouldn't stack things up to take. I would hold onto whatever I thought was the most valuable (like a laptop). But most of the thefts I have had experience with have been the smash and grab type.

Again, just guessing, but I bet the cop has seen other break-ins before and thought this one looked a little strange. If you and your friends didn't look concerned, but we instead joking around, I might assume you played a prank too.

Turns out the guy did end up getting some of one girls stuff, and the jewelry that was in a pile was farther away from the door than the room the guy was in when the girl saw him. We just assume the guy thought he was there by himself, didn't realize there was another room (it was a 4 bedroom, with a cluster of 3 and one on the other side of the apartment), and as soon as he heard a loud bang he probably pooped his pants and was out of there. As I said before, we think this guy was at the party earlier. We caught him stealing an iPod, and we think he came back after the party was over (probably told by one of the guys he was there with that didn't get kicked out). He wasn't a scary guy at all, the kind that if he thought he was about to get his ass kicked by an angry renter or in any kind of trouble with the popos would flee immediately.

BTW, we even offered to go back to the WaHo to get the workers there to tell the cops where we were. He didn't want to. He was too sure that it was us, which he told us. Sounds like an easy way to write a report and not have to investigate something if you ask me.
 
I have no love for cops. They're 95% jackasses who care nothing about protecting the public, who drive the other honest 5% out of the line of work. My hate for UGA football players, and for UGA students in general, vastly exceeds my hate for cops though.

Fair enough.
 
"Athletic Association policy calls for a suspension of 10 percent of the season for a first-time alcohol incident, something that was on Munzenmaier's mind when he thanked the arresting officer from Athens-Clarke County for 'costing him two games,' according to the incident report."

"After the comment about losing two games, the officer asked Munzenmaier what sport he played.


'Look at me,' the 6-foot-1, 225-pound Duluth native said, according the report. 'What sport do you think I play?'"

Try again. I specifically read BOTH articles, becuase the AJC can't be trusted, and usually you can't get the whole story from one source. Many times, you have to read between the lines. It's called bias. It happens when only one person has complete control of a situation.

I think cops (except for Atlanta cops, I've never really seen this out of them) in general spend more time on revenue schemes than actually protecting people.

Like I said, I've never been arrested. However, I'll tell you a little story.

I was in Athens my freshman year for a party at these girls' apartment. I'm very good friends with them, especially good friends with one of them. After the party died down (keg and hunch punch ran out), we decide to go to Waffle House (we had a DD, before you ask). My very good friend was just flat out tired, and decided to go to bed. We get to Waffle House, and after we are there for a little while, one of the roommates phone's starts ringing. Before she can answer it, it stops. It was the other roommate still at the apartment. The roommate who got the call didn't call her back, but I thought it was weird, so I did. The girl still at the apartment was bawling, so we hurried home.

On the way home we figure out that someone had broken into the apartment (we now think it was someone we had caught earlier that night trying to steal an iPod), and had somewhat trashed the place. The girl at the apartment woke up and heard it, opened her door, saw someone walk through one of the doorways, and slammed and locked her door. She called us, then called the police. The police were there before us, and we just stayed outside. Nothing actually get stolen, although all of the laptops were in a stack along with a pile of jewelry. The cops look around inside and out of the apartment, and say they can't find anyone. One of the cops finishes getting the scared roommate's statement, while the other one pulls all the rest of us aside.

He then goes to tell us that we should be ashamed of ourselves, and that this kind of **** isn't funny. That we owe the girl an apology and should fess up for letting this kind of joke get out of hand. We tell him flat out that we were at Waffle House the entire time. After trying to reasonably tell him what happened, I just walk away, soon to be followed by everyone else.

That was one of my first real run-ins with the cops. Left a lasting impression. Made me realize that yes, people in important positions really usually are that bad at their jobs. I then realize that I know 3 people my age who are training to be cops, and only 1 is a high school graduate. The others got their GED.

The kid should have just kept his mouth shut as soon as the cop approached him. It's by far the best policy. There is no reason to be rude (although how often do cops arrest happy people?), in fact, there is no reason to speak at all. However, there is as much reason to flat out believe what a cop says is the honest to God truth as there is to believe the player.
:laugher:

You still can't see the progression can you? Let me break it down like the article from athens says:

douchebag: "Thanks costing me two games by arresting me."
cop: "what sport do you play?"
douchebag: "Look at me. What sport do you think I play"

Kid backtalks him... then the cop asks him what sport he plays... then the kid backtalks him some more. Thirty years ago he would have probably got the **** kicked out of him for that.

As for your story once again we have the recollections of hammered college kids versus a sober police officer and you side with those that are drunk and most likely stupid?
 
From EffinDane:
"Clarke County cops are giant pricks.

They are the ultimate assholes of the law enforcement business (which is exactly what it is, a moneymaker). "

Go make a mistake in Duluth, GA, Cops in Athens will look like the Pope. I got my first speeding ticket in 30 years in that dump last year and the Cop acted like he owned the damn asphalt.
 
Eufala cops may be worse than anyone else I've ever encountered.

I got pulled over for going FIVE MILES OVER THE LIMIT in Euphala, pulled out of my car, searched (not stripsearched, thankfully) and harassed for almost an hour about "Did I have any drugs in my car" and "Did I have any terrorist stuff in my car" and "Did I realize that they are officially members of the Department of Homeland Security" and "If only Timothy McVae had been pulled over on a routine traffic stop, hundreds of people's lives would have been saved" etc.


At 2am.

Almost an hour of harassment, on the side of the road, at night, for going 5 miles over the limit. And in the end, the guy wrote me a warning. It was nuts.

beej67,
guesses he was just bored
 
:laugher:

You still can't see the progression can you? Let me break it down like the article from athens says:

douchebag: "Thanks costing me two games by arresting me."
cop: "what sport do you play?"
douchebag: "Look at me. What sport do you think I play"

Kid backtalks him... then the cop asks him what sport he plays... then the kid backtalks him some more. Thirty years ago he would have probably got the **** kicked out of him for that.

As for your story once again we have the recollections of hammered college kids versus a sober police officer and you side with those that are drunk and most likely stupid?

Doesn't sound to me at all like he is throwing his weight around. He was just complaining. He wasn't giving the "don't you know who I am? Coach Richt will have your ass! You'll never drive a squad car again" kind of thing, like you said earlier. Big, big difference. As I said, no the kid shouldn't have said a word. No one ever should when they get arrested. That is the worst thing you can do for yourself. However, it doesn't seem to me that he is being a complete asshole, or any more so than you would expect anyone to be.

And you sure do assume a whole lot of things, even about what state of drunkenness I and my friends were in. It's funny because two of them hadn't had a drop to drink. The asshole didn't have to trust us, the Waffle House was 5 minutes away. He was just a bad cop.

Thirty years ago the cop would have bitched the kid out, but wouldn't have given him a ticket, because neo-prohibitionist Nazis like MADD hadn't lobbied things like the National Minimum Drinking Age Act through Congress, and if Reagan would have actually taken a true conservative approach to drug abuse he would have manned up and vetoed it. But that's for another thread.

You know, I've tried not to be a demeaning asshole like you have been so far, but screw it. Your bullheaded/dickheaded attitude, overly assuming and patronizing disposition, and clear disdain for anyone who COULD be doing something wrong is just too much. You ever think about becoming a cop?
 
Not all cops are bad depends on which one you get. I know in high school I got off with a verbal warning for drinking underage a couple of times at parties. They were nice guys gave us a lecture on why we shouldnt be drinking and stuff. But iv had a couple of real dicks pull me over on the roadways too so it depends on who you get.
 
If the kid did everything the paper says, I hope he gets a lot more than 1-2 game suspension. But I have had enough of my own run-ins to believe that it probably wasnt quite to the level that the cop reported.
I got pulled over near Woodstock Ga for "driving erratically", at 11:00 AM, on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. (I live in Charlotte). Two cops pull me over. I walks up, and asks if I am lost. Which I was. I showed him the directions I had in my hand, and told him I was meeting my bro in law at a golf course, and he had given me bad directions. The erratic driving, was waiting at a red light for it to turn green, going through the green light into the gas station across the street, and turning around. Coming out of the gas station and turning left. I explained that my brother in law had forgotten a turn, and by the time I figured it out, I was in the center lane, and couldnt take a right. The cop asks for my license, and I show it to him. Then he asks if I had been drinking- at 11:00 in on Friday morning! Next he asks if I still live in Charlotte, and if so, why am I in GA? OVER THANKSGIVING WEEKEND? I am 35 years old, I havent been asked "what are you doing over here "since I was in high school! Then wants to see my insurance, and as I reach for it in the glove compartment, he puts his hand on his gun and asks if I have a weapon. I tell him no, show him my insurance, and go to put it back. HE ASKS ME AGAIN IF I HAVE A WEAPON! Then tells me I also have a tail light out. I told him politely that I didnt know that, because I was driving my wifes car, and had no idea it was out. To which he yells at me that it is the operator of the vehicles responsiblity to insure the vehicle is operating properly!
It was basically a harassment of an out of state driver. However, I remained polite, because I figured that he could pull me over at any time for the broken tail light, so I wasnt off the hook until he left. But I am sure that if he had to describe this incident, he was just doing his job, and I was the suspicious wreckless driver.
 
well you guys know I am no fan of UGAy or their football players, but I can tell you first hand (and have in the past) that the Athens cops are a bunch of arseholes who go out of their way to harass the decent public while real crime and mayhem goes on down the block. They truly are real shiitheads.
 
EffinDane, I hope you are not on some sort of dillusional trip so as to think that the cops are obligated to protect people?

Their job is to enforce government edicts, or laws, if you will.

I have known many an ahole cop, stemming mostly from the fact that they are your average government employees who forget who they really work for, and who pays their salaries. Most of these type have fallen prey to the "command voice" dictates. A GT police gave me that BS in front of the ATO house at a home game last year. Laughing can do wonders.

As far as protecting people, most, and I believe a vast majority, of cops will, and it has nothing to do with their job description.

You might want to reference 9/11, or the two who pulled a guy out of a burning car this last weekend.

If someone wants to be a drunk ahole walking around in public, then they are lucky to get home alive in many cases.
 
Fwiw, I've never had anything but good experiences with GT cops at frat parties. As long as they're not giving you parking tickets, Tech cops rule.

Officer Rodriguez++
 
Fwiw, I've never had anything but good experiences with GT cops at frat parties. As long as they're not giving you parking tickets, Tech cops rule.

Officer Rodriguez++

Pretty sure the parking office is responsible for the enforcement of parking. So that makes the GTPD look even better.

asimperson,
only got one parking ticket, though
 
I think part of the whole 'Tech cops at parties rule' bit is that I believe they're off-duty, and being paid by the frat for security, because of some kind of greek rules. (I could be wrong) If so, they're probably being cool because they're being paid to be cool. :) That said, I'm happy I didn't get thrown out of school by Officer Rodriguez my freshman year.
 
I think part of the whole 'Tech cops at parties rule' bit is that I believe they're off-duty, and being paid by the frat for security, because of some kind of greek rules. (I could be wrong) If so, they're probably being cool because they're being paid to be cool. :) That said, I'm happy I didn't get thrown out of school by Officer Rodriguez my freshman year.

This is true. The fraternities are required to have paid security on site. Most times, it was off duty cops. However, most of those same cops at the parties were just as cool during the day once you got to know them...
 
A couple of weeks ago, some friends and I were walking through the North Ave complex with one of the GTPD cops and as we walked up the stairs we saw a kid wearing yellow pajama pants. The cop walked over and said "Um, excuse me, you do know that those are against the dress code," as he started to pull out his ticket book. The kid was shocked and started looking around. He said "what dress code?" Next, the cop paused for a second and gave him one of the best "are you stupid?" looks I have ever seen. There were a couple more sentences back and forth of the cop making him look dumb/scared before the cop came back over to us and told the kid he was messing with him. Then a few minutes later, he walked over to another group of kids and acted like he was going to write them a ticket for being "metrosexual". One of my funniest moments on campus, definitely.
 
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