Alright Johnson turned us down for Smu..

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1gtfan

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His loss and not our's.

Look for 1st RN, 2nd Hatcher, Tenuta as the fallback candidate.

I can't say for sure that is the pecking order, but I hope it is. It will most likely be the short list and I will check for the exact pecking order and get back at you. Or hopefully Dems, will get that info. to us sooner.
 
I am not a GT grad but I have been a ticket holder and supporter of GT for over 40 years. The reason I started supporting GT was because it is a class school that has always understood the term student athlete. All my contributions go to GT not to my alma mater. This is how much I believe in them.

We have never knowingly hired a liar and a cheat or a person who will be an embarrassment to us. GOL proved to be this after he was hired and it is the main reason he will never come back. We know RN's history up front. I thought I would never say this but if he is hired I will no longer support our institution. GT will have sold out and no longer care for honesty and integrity.

I have spoken to quite a few fans who feel the way I do but have chosen to remain quiet. Unfortunately they need to speak up.
 
Muschamp and Hatcher better get back on the table and get this deal done. We've pissed away our best opportunity. Rick Neuheisel is not the answer.
 
Amen to that. People need to get past the history of WM. So he was a nad licker before, he is the best coach available. He has great contacts and can take this team to greatness.
 
R we going to hold something against a guy forever? RN was and is a good coach. He was (I think 2 much) the darling of the media back when he was at Wash and Colo. Maybe the guy got caught up in the media hype and just got carried away. We do not know if he's the right guy for Tech. Maybe so maybe not. But at least he would bring many back to BDS including me. So if it's him lets welcome him and then shoot for the moon (ie higher things than 7-5).
 
BarrelORum said:
Muschamp and Hatcher better get back on the table and get this deal done. We've pissed away our best opportunity. Rick Neuheisel is not the answer.
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I know we don't know the full story of what happened regarding D-Rad/Clough/Muschamp/whoever put the kibosh on WM, but whatever those people's reasons are for not liking WM, they must pale in comparisons to the reasons for not wanting Neuheisel.
 
OfficiallyBuzz said:
I am not a GT grad but I have been a ticket holder and supporter of GT for over 40 years. The reason I started supporting GT was because it is a class school that has always understood the term student athlete. All my contributions go to GT not to my alma mater. This is how much I believe in them.

We have never knowingly hired a liar and a cheat or a person who will be an embarrassment to us. GOL proved to be this after he was hired and it is the main reason he will never come back. We know RN's history up front. I thought I would never say this but if he is hired I will no longer support our institution. GT will have sold out and no longer care for honesty and integrity.

I have spoken to quite a few fans who feel the way I do but have chosen to remain quiet. Unfortunately they need to speak up.
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So you are God!

You know for a FACT that RN committed crimes?

I know it hurts your ego, to think someone who made some MINOR mistakes while he was young, might become coach of your beloved team, the one you root for. But, have you ever made minor mistakes when you were young?, I mean very young.

You would put your pride over winning football games and if the board feels he is fine and he checks out thoroughly and some of you start throwing stones at him before he has done anything, that is really pathetic!!!

Sorry for the rant, but to throw stones at someone that made minor mistakes when they were much younger is like trying to play God. Which is impossible in your case, because your a sinner too.

By the way, Ive spoke to people too, and no one, I mean no one Ive spoke to has a problem with RN, only here on the internet.
 
oldfoggy said:
R we going to hold something against a guy forever? RN was and is a good coach. He was (I think 2 much) the darling of the media back when he was at Wash and Colo. Maybe the guy got caught up in the media hype and just got carried away. We do not know if he's the right guy for Tech. Maybe so maybe not. But at least he would bring many back to BDS including me. So if it's him lets welcome him and then shoot for the moon (ie higher things than 7-5).
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Foggy, I finally agree with you on something. :fingersx:

For some pompous, arrogant holier than though people to start throwing stones at someone that was VERY YOUNG when he made some MINOR mistakes is pathetic.

He is a winner and gives us our best chance at competing with the dogs every year. imho.
 
1gtfan said:
His loss and not our's.

Look for 1st RN, 2nd Hatcher, Tenuta as the fallback candidate.

I can't say for sure that is the pecking order, but I hope it is. It will most likely be the short list and I will check for the exact pecking order and get back at you. Or hopefully Dems, will get that info. to us sooner.
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Do you have a link confirming this?
 
buzzed1990 said:
Do you have a link confirming this?
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There are no news reports yet on Johnson ever having an offer and may not be. Only people with insider info. know the details. He had an offer.

IMHO. It all works out for the best if we get Hatcher or RN.
 
1gtfan said:
So you are God!

You know for a FACT that RN committed crimes?
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Oh, so what's good for the Goose ain't good for the Gander now huh? You tried to crucify Will Muschamp who apparently our AD felt was the best candidate solely because he played football at UGA and now you don't like it when others feel strongly against a candidate that you like.

Its idiotic attitudes like your that has literally made a f**king mess of this coaching search. We basically have an AD who is not being allowed to do the job we are paying him and intrust him to do, because jack asses like yourself think they know more than they do.

If Neuheisel is hired, I won't be pissed, but I will be somewhat disappointed that we didn't have the balls to hire a shining star instead hired a guy who really doesn't fit our program but has shown to be a better than average coach. Rick Neuheisel comes to GT with a ceiling. Muschamp and Hatcher don't. That is why the fan base is more excited about those two than RN.
 
RN will NOT get the job. Those big money idiots who tried to shove PJ down our throats are not going to support him some tree hugger from cali.

I imagine WM and CH are looking better every second.

It is NOT bout holding something against RN. It is about him NOT being the right fit for GT.

When was the last time a GREAT coach was fired from a U? When was the last time he was fired from two U's?

I am surprised at the posters kissing up to RN. Even w/o the lying, cheating, and etc. he is not the best candidate.

Great interview DOES NOT equal GREAT COACH.
 
law_bee said:
RN will NOT get the job. Those big money idiots who tried to shove PJ down our throats are not going to support him some tree hugger from cali.

I imagine WM and CH are looking better every second.

It is NOT bout holding something against RN. It is about him NOT being the right fit for GT.
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Lawbee,

You are halfway correct from what I hear so far.

A. RN probably wont get his chance here.
That is true. I would love to have him here, but very unlikely.

BUT, Tenuta now is the very real possibilty with Hatcher being the longshot.

I NEVER liked Paul Johnson as GT coach, but he was a better fit here than the dog.
 
I posted it in another thread. I'll post it here too. RN is a shady character. He was head coach when all of the rape accusations started. HE let it go on. Here's a quote from CNN.com:

"The latest scandal appears to be the worst yet and its roots date at least to 1997, when a 17-year-old high school student accused a football player of rape after a recruiting party.

No charges were filed, but three women have since sued the school, saying it fostered an environment that led to their rapes by football players or recruits at or just after an off-campus party in 2001."
 
law_bee said:
It is NOT bout holding something against RN. It is about him NOT being the right fit for GT.
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Bingo. Has no ties to the South East, wasn't even on our radar as he contacted us, has some resume issues no matter how you slice it, I just don't see how we will support Neuheisel over Hatcher. Bring back Muschamp as HC and Hatcher as OC.
 
1gtfan said:
So you are God!

You know for a FACT that RN committed crimes?
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That is a ridiculous comment. You don't have to be God to know a crime is committed. Otherwise we need to turn our jails into schools or shopping malls because we will never "know" a person is guilty.

1gtfan said:
I know it hurts your ego, to think someone who made some MINOR mistakes while he was young
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There is nothing minor about the way he handled his stint at Colorado. Gambling I consider minor, but rape and cheating don't calculate as some little misdemeanor to me.
 
1gtfan said:
I NEVER liked Paul Johnson as GT coach, but he was a better fit here than the dog.
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I may agree with you on that, but Muschamp certainly has a higher risk and reward. I think it was a smart gamble. Problem now is PJ is gone and we're focusing on Tenuta, Hatcher, and Neuheisel. Of that group, I would be very excited about Hatcher. But at this point if our AD wanted Muschamp all along and we struck out with PJ, then we're even bigger idiots than before for forcing the AD on his 3rd choice. This is getting stupid.

We're basically telling our AD that he cannot hire the best guy in his opinion based solely on something that has nothing to do with his coaching abilities. If anyone under my employment didn't hire the best guy possible, I'd fire their ass for incompetence. Unfortunately, DRAd is going to be forced to hire a 3rd possible 4th choice.

I hate to break this to you guys, but our AD clearly knows who is going to do the better job between everyone we've talked to thus far. If that guy is WM, then get over yourself.
 
1gtfan said:
So you are God!

You know for a FACT that RN committed crimes?

I know it hurts your ego, to think someone who made some MINOR mistakes while he was young, might become coach of your beloved team, the one you root for. But, have you ever made minor mistakes when you were young?, I mean very young.

You would put your pride over winning football games and if the board feels he is fine and he checks out thoroughly and some of you start throwing stones at him before he has done anything, that is really pathetic!!!

Sorry for the rant, but to throw stones at someone that made minor mistakes when they were much younger is like trying to play God. Which is impossible in your case, because your a sinner too.

By the way, Ive spoke to people too, and no one, I mean no one Ive spoke to has a problem with RN, only here on the internet.
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I guess we have different definitions of "minor". I do not consider 51 NCAA violations, forfeiture of an entire season's games and being fired from your alma mater for poor decisions regarding gambling as "minor". His record as a head coach has taken each program high wins to average at best. See post number 3 at http://www.stingtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23969

I will state the gambling incident was blown way out of proportion by both UW and the NCAA. He simply showed poor judgment in his actions. And as you so clearly stated we have all done this. However I can't help but wonder if this was an excuse to fire him because of other non-public issues. I am not saying this is true but it is his alma mater. Maybe it was simply how the football program declined under his tenure.

There is an interesting article posted by a Seattle writer less than six hours ago that references RN and the feeling for him in Washington. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/huskies/342303_thiel05.html

You can verify my information at:
http://www.washington.edu/alumni/columns/dec02/briefings_neuheisel.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Neuheisel

Again I guess we just have different opinions of "minor".

And I stayed away from the rape issue.
 
Barnhart on AJC reporting Johnson will interview at GT today.

I thought he did that a few days ago...but Tony seems to be on top of it.
 
PJ interviewed Sunday as well, we would have to beat the SMU offer and thats not happening. Unless he wants to take less money to be at Tech its not happening.
 
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