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Wrecked83

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collegefootballnews.com just released its bowl rankings. the link is at: http://collegefootballnews.com/2004/Bowls/Bowl_Matchup_Rankings.htm

now, just to quickly analyze it... our ranks for the bowls we have been in:

2004 -- 23rd (of 28)
2003 -- 27th (of 28)
2002 -- 26th (of 28)
2001 -- 6th (of 25)

that's as far back as they go. basically, the matchup against that top stanford team in 2001 in the Seattle bowl was the best we've had in awhile as far as exposure and the net result of even going to the bowl.

maybe we shouldn't just jump at the money for the small bowls every year. how much do they help us? is the problem in having too many bowls? or just us not competing for the upper tier of bowl positions?
 
Wrecked, I understand what you are saying about jumping at bowls but we did not create them. I still say if they are out there and we happen not to get an upper tier bowl how can we not reward our kids. They worked hard for this chance and I can assure you they would rather play in a top 6 bowl but the chips didn't fall that way.
 
Do we actually lose money when we play in these small bowls? I've heard that, but I have no idea if it's true.
 
Going to a bowl is a good thing for our program. Its good for the players who earned and deserve it, it gives us many extra practices and it gives us a chance to impress recruits and also to reward fans who support the program.

While some bowls are better than others, it is heresy to suggest we not go to a bowl when we earn an invitation to one.

I just wish everyone would relax and enjoy the fact that we are in the post season. Maryland and the mighty Fridge will be spending their bowl season on their donut-stuffed rear ends while the bowl-bound Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets decked out in Old Gold and White defend the honor of our program under the Florida sun. Gailey and the team did the work and now they and the fans get to enjoy the reward. If some folk don't want to participate and be happy about it than its their loss not ours.

I can understand not liking our coach - Gailey has provided his critics with a lot of ammunition and that's nobody's fault but his. But I'm getting the sense that those who would like to see him leave are almost disappointed that we didn't do worse this season in order to expedite his departure.

I'm very pumped about our bowl game. I'm not thrilled about playing Syracuse but I'll get over that after the first play. If we win, that's a seven-win season and I remember when a seven-win season was unthinkable and I don't ever want to go there again.

Criticise our coach if you think you need to but don't shoot our program in the foot in the process.
 
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Wrecked, I understand what you are saying about jumping at bowls but we did not create them. I still say if they are out there and we happen not to get an upper tier bowl how can we not reward our kids. They worked hard for this chance and I can assure you they would rather play in a top 6 bowl but the chips didn't fall that way.

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oh yeah, don't get me wrong. i'm all for the SA's getting their due. i was just trying to point something out that is a problem with the NCAA in general. i am also pretty happy with the bowl turnout this year with us finally getting an east coast bowl which is a great reward for the seniors.

sorry for the confusion. it was more of a question of where gt's bowl and post season progression lies and maybe some problems with the bowl system in general...
 
YOu're right, I have had a problem with the NCAA since i played. These kids are not treated fairly for the amount of money they bring in to the school. Don't get me wrong a scholarship is worth a lot but it's not fair that Calvin Johnson's Jersey is selling like hotcakes and the kid gets nothing, that's not right and I don't know if it will ever be fixed.

I hope all fans will take pleasure in the bowl game as a chance to suit up one more time in '04. Not everyone will ever be happy with the situation at Tech but Let's enjoy kickinng some Orangewomen's arse.
 
We lose money when we play out west....

Mostly because travel expenses are higher, and probably Tech has to eat tickets. The ACC shares bowl revenue equally (except for the exception where if your travelling west of the Mississippi, I think you get a $350,000 to help expenses)

So we'll get the same payout as Duke or Clemson (argh, they shouldn't get anything because they would've made the pot bigger!) or anyone else who didn't go to a bowl.
 
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Don't get me wrong a scholarship is worth a lot but it's not fair that Calvin Johnson's Jersey is selling like hotcakes and the kid gets nothing

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I don't know if I would go that far. Calvin has gotten NATIONAL recognition throughout the season. He is the ACC rookie of the year, and first team all acc. The more people that buy his jersey, the more people that advertise his name. The more his name gets out, the higher his prospects of draft go. Don't forget that the better a "kid" is in college, the higher his draft potential, which turns into higher $$$$'s. So while he isn't necessarily getting paid right now, every good day he has is more $$$$'s down the road...

And don't tell me that many of these players dont LOVE the attention they get by the national media. I don't see my name on ESPN every week (of course, there is good reason for that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugher.gif )...
 
2 questions.....?

1. Is there anyone here who thinks we DON'T need the practice?

2. is there anyone who thinks that ALL these kids should be forced to turn down a bowl when invited by the bowl simply b/c some fans think it is beneath the "fans"

FANS SHOULD HAVE 0 INPUT INTO SUCH MATTER!
 
All i can say is we have the best defense

we have had here IMHO going into 2005, For sure the deepest, WE have the BEST wr in the country and a VERY promising one in Patrick Carter, looks like we are accumilating the biggest stable of Running backs we have ever had and as most GT fans am hopeful that TB is the real deal at QB....A question mark at QB and OL....But name me 90% of the team's in the Ncaa going into next year with only these 2 areas of concern?

In summation...

A. A very stout Defense
B. A strong stable of Running Backs
C. A good WR Corps..
D. A very promising TE in Riles
E. A promising change at QB.

So YES !!!!!
 
Re: 2 questions.....?

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1. Is there anyone here who thinks we DON'T need the practice?

2. is there anyone who thinks that ALL these kids should be forced to turn down a bowl when invited by the bowl simply b/c some fans think it is beneath the "fans"

FANS SHOULD HAVE 0 INPUT INTO SUCH MATTER!

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Agreed law_bee, 110%. It amazes me how some of our "fans" think.
 
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Not everyone will ever be happy with the situation at Tech but Let's enjoy kickinng some Orangewomen's arse.

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I am happy, but maybe I am dumb and stupid. Or maybe just mediocre. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hugelaugh.gif
 
BW, appreciate the positive spin

but not really accurate.
We have
1.a stout defense without an obviously exploitable weakness
2. a dependable FG kicker
that is all we have that you doesn't come with a big question
-we have a deep, not strong TB corps,ALL of which are hurt and were hurt at times when we needed them
-one great rec(who will be double -teamed every down) and THAT is it,the rest are potential AT BEST,btw-were you pushing Bilbo for All-ACC rec last yr?
- a promising TE,good adjective
-a very erratic and undepenable QB,a VERY light and inexp
line ,very average special teams exp for FG
That is a realistic view.Probably good for another 6-5 record unless something drastic happens(getting RB a new head or just a solid QB is the best solution)
 
While I appreciate your opinion...

Unlike a FEW, here on this board that dont like Chan and really put up stupid posts, You are a good fan that which is a natural pessimist...I accept that...At least you do it with RESPECT and dont harp on and on with an agenda like 3518 Tech and a couple of others!!!!

I disagree... I said, Reggie Ball will be a bacup, so take him out of the equation...TB is prominsing a question mark but PROMISING....Pat Carter is too at WR....Inexperienced there but heck during spring last year we all had questions about our reciever corp...You always worry about our OL and with the possible exception of the Miami game...our MAIN problem was only the QB position. We have questions SURE, but 90% of ALL teams have just as much or more!!!...The OL played OK not great not bad but OK...You predicted I believe a losing season coming in....at Running back we will be back healthy and with DEPTH (Count Gause in and an ever improving Grant).....Your opinion vs. mine....That is all!!!!
 
Re: While I appreciate your opinion...

...ok, someone asked last year, if we're making progress here. Well, this thread is no different from current threads here. Same medicore bowl talk, same discussions about Gailey, and to some degree CJ. So, the answer would be looking at trends and this year, that we are not making progress. Who do you blame? Not the AJC, the lack of GT apparell, the NCAA probation (cause it hasn't hit us, yet), not Braine, or Moore...but our coach. Sorry, folks, but we're spinning in mud with our football team where we once moving down the road at good speed... and the guy at the top gets the blame...especially when paid over a million dollars a year to get the job done.
 
Re: While I appreciate your opinion...

Alright, I'll take the bait on this one. I am far from a big fan of Gailey, and I have been quite critical at times, and will likely continue to be, but we get another win during the regular season this year, and we get some big time wins in the season too (AU + UM). Improvement has been made IF, and only IF (thats iff for some of you descrete math kids) we win our bowl game and finish the season with 8 wins, that is marked improvement. 8-4 is a respectible season, and we'll finish the season ranked.

If you wish to deny this being improvement, feel free, but you're just muck raking at this point. You might want to argue, enough improvement if you want to get anywhere.

Gailey is here for the next few years, and for better or worse, thats just the way it is. Reevaluation will come in late '07 or '08 unless he does something he shouldn't with one of the GTAA interns (and frankly, with the heart condition, I don't think that would be too wise for a lot of reasons /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugher.gif).
 
Re: While I appreciate your opinion...

This year has been an improvement, and anyone who doesn't admit or recognize that simply doesn't want to. We have a (slightly) better record against a tougher schedule. We have two top 10 wins in a year, we played ugag even (even though most of us think we should have won), and two of our losses, while disappointing to us, were to teams that were ranked ahead of us preseason (State and UVA). Was it a great year? No. But clearly an improvement.

Also the team is better. Even with our scoring woes the offense was better this year and the defense continues to excel. STs weren't very good but they weren't really worse than previous except for FG%.

Recruiting appears to be pretty solid so far and the # of returning starters on offense, especially the line, is encouraging.

BTW, the constant harping about Gailey's salary is just stupid. He actually is a little under $1M from what I can find, which is probably slightly below average in the ACC. So if your argument is we aren't getting our money's worth, we are probably getting more than we pay for.
 
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