At which position are we deepest?

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Is it A back?
Where we have Roddy Jones, Marcus Wright, Anthony Allen, Embry Peeples, Orwin Smith. We also could have Lucas Cox and the d train here.

Or B back?
Jonathan Dwyer, Richard Watson, Lucas Cox, Preston Lyons. Also add in Allen here.

Maybe DB?
Rashad Reid, Mario Butler, Jerrad Tarrant, Jon Lockhart, Michael Peterson, Martin Frierson, Cory Earls, Karl Miles and Roderick Sweeting.
 
gt23eric said:
Is it A back?
Where we have Roddy Jones, Marcus Wright, Anthony Allen, Embry Peeples, Orwin Smith. We also could have Lucas Cox and the d train here.

Or B back?
Jonathan Dwyer, Richard Watson, Lucas Cox, Preston Lyons. Also add in Allen here.

Maybe DB?
Rashad Reid, Mario Butler, Jerrad Tarrant, Jon Lockhart, Michael Peterson, Martin Frierson, Cory Earls, Karl Miles and Roderick Sweeting.
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We are not that deep at A Back. A Back plays two guys, we have five in your depth chart. It's DB where we're deep.

And finally, we have bodies to use in special teams!
 
DE is pretty deep:

D.Morgan
R.Hall
A.Egbuniwe
E.Dieke
I.Cross
E.Cummings
C.Crenshaw
J.Peters if the need arises
Heck maybe even D.Drummond
 
Nearly half that list of DE's are freshmen we're hoping to redshirt. Assuming we play Dieke because he was in spring practice, that's only 5 scholarship DE's available.

D. Morgan
R. Hall
A. Ebugniwe
A. Wilson
E. Dieke

(excluding Drummond for redshirt and Peters since DT isn't deep either)

B-back is by far our most loaded position. We only play 1 on the field, and we have 5 on scholly and not RS'ing. To boot, that includes Dwyer, Luke Cox, and Rich Watson.
 
midatlantech said:
We are not that deep at A Back. A Back plays two guys, we have five in your depth chart. It's DB where we're deep.

And finally, we have bodies to use in special teams!
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By your reasoning, we have 4 positions at DB(or 5 if you include the wolf) so we are not that deep. I'd say Bee-back: Dwyer,Allen, Cox, Watson, Lyons, and Drummond. 6 guys for one spot. Balls-deep.
-Just saw flywheels post, and we are in agreement.
 
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Jacket59 said:
DE is pretty deep:

D.Morgan
R.Hall
A.Egbuniwe
E.Dieke
I.Cross
E.Cummings
C.Crenshaw
J.Peters if the need arises
Heck maybe even D.Drummond
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So by the word "deep" do you mean lots of bodies with no experience? Because I don't call that deep. Deep means lots of bodies, with lots of experience. For all we know we have one great DE and a bunch of never will be's.
 
My gut feeling is A-Back. But interesting arguments.

Can't wait!
 
I think we are deep at all the offensive back positions and Defensive back positions.
 
BarrelORum said:
So by the word "deep" do you mean lots of bodies with no experience? Because I don't call that deep. Deep means lots of bodies, with lots of experience. For all we know we have one great DE and a bunch of never will be's.
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No. Deep means lots of bodies with talent.

It's impossible to have lots of bodies at one position with lots of experience.
 
As another poster pointed out, I forgot about Antonio Wilson. I also forgot about the move of Albert Rocker and Osahon Tongo to DE. That would make 12 scholarship DE's next year. And, contrary to BOR's blunt reply, hopefully they won't all be a bunch of never-will-be's. We don't lose any of those after this year either, and will probably bring in 1 if not 2 more from the recruiting class.

So, obviously depending on your definition of "depth". We have a whole lot of scholarship players filling out the "depth" chart as possibilities at DE. Surely we'll find 2 or 3 playmakers from that group (D.Morgan notwithstanding)
 
GTBandit22 said:
By your reasoning, we have 4 positions at DB(or 5 if you include the wolf) so we are not that deep. I'd say Bee-back: Dwyer,Allen, Cox, Watson, Lyons, and Drummond. 6 guys for one spot. Balls-deep.
-Just saw flywheels post, and we are in agreement.
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Those DB's handle two positions (CB). The wolf has been handled by a small LB or a Safety. We have lots of CB's and DE's right now.
 
GTKyle said:
No. Deep means lots of bodies with talent.

It's impossible to have lots of bodies at one position with lots of experience.
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BS, look at the DB position. Tons of guys with talent AND experience.

Look at the AB and BB position, tons of guys with talent, and experience.

That is depth. Not a bunch of guys with high school resumes that have never played a meaningful minute if they played at all of college football.

You guys are using the "Count your Chickens" before they hatch mentality of defining depth. This is the age old Hive analysis who uses this same BS approach year after year after year to describe why we will go to a BCS bowl game for the last 7 years. And its why many of those same people wouldn't know dick about college football, if dick jumped up and slapped them in the face.
 
BarrelORum said:
BS, look at the DB position. Tons of guys with talent AND experience.

Look at the AB and BB position, tons of guys with talent, and experience.

That is depth. Not a bunch of guys with high school resumes that have never played a meaningful minute if they played at all of college football.

You guys are using the "Count your Chickens" before they hatch mentality of defining depth. This is the age old Hive analysis who uses this same BS approach year after year after year to describe why we will go to a BCS bowl game for the last 7 years. And its why many of those same people wouldn't know dick about college football, if dick jumped up and slapped them in the face.
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HA HA HA nicely put... its b-back
 
BarrelORum said:
BS, look at the DB position. Tons of guys with talent AND experience.

Look at the AB and BB position, tons of guys with talent, and experience.

That is depth. Not a bunch of guys with high school resumes that have never played a meaningful minute if they played at all of college football.

You guys are using the "Count your Chickens" before they hatch mentality of defining depth. This is the age old Hive analysis who uses this same BS approach year after year after year to describe why we will go to a BCS bowl game for the last 7 years. And its why many of those same people wouldn't know dick about college football, if dick jumped up and slapped them in the face.
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You said "lots of experience" in your first statement.

Who else besides Roddy Jones, Lucas Cox, and Dwyer have had lots of experience?
 
GTKyle said:
You said "lots of experience" in your first statement.

Who else besides Roddy Jones, Lucas Cox, and Dwyer have had lots of experience?
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Marcus Wright, Embry Peeples, Anthony Allen
That's off the top of my head
 
GTKyle said:
You said "lots of experience" in your first statement.

Who else besides Roddy Jones, Lucas Cox, and Dwyer have had lots of experience?
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Anthony Allen is a 100% proven major-college running back. That's a chicken I'm willing to count, it just happened to hatch in a different incubator.

I would also consider Embry Peeples and Marcus Wright reasonably experienced -- especially Peeples. He didn't get a lot of carries but he lined up and played a lot.

I would call us deepest at the "running back" position. To me, separating them is somewhat like separating out the LB positions. Basically all of the B-Backs except Watson and Lyons can also play A-back. Cox is proven there and Allen played more A than B in the spring. That makes us very deep at both positions. And that's a lot deeper than "balls deep", at least if I'm the one talking! :laugher:
 
You guys are splitting hairs here.

Lots of experience - that's a very descriptive term. Does that mean starters, does it mean played some in every game, does it mean played in half the games ...

Depth - does it mean that we go 12 deep at a position with scholarship players, does it mean we have 3 seniors and a junior at 2 position, does it mean we have all starters back at a position ...

I was not saying that DE is the deepest position on the team. I was simply saying that we go about 12 deep with young scholarship players for two positions. IMO, that could be thought of as deep.

Then BOR has to imply that I'm a dilusional fan who thought we were going to a BCS bowl for the last 7 years and don't know squat about football. Odds are very, very high I know more than you. But, way to go mighty one, you've certainly made your presence felt for better or worse.
 
I didn't imply that you were delusional, its just my opinion, and I'm not alone on this, that your and Kyle's definition of depth is completely wrong.

My definition of depth is lots of experience and lots of bodies. Most football coaches, players, analysts, fans, etc. etc. etc. would agree with me. We have both at AB,BB, and DB.

At DE we have lots of bodies with one guy having major experience, and about two more having a tidbit of experience. So we don't have a lot of experience.

The only way you can defend your viewpoint is by re-defining what the word "depth" means as it applies to a football team. Your wrong. you made an incorrect statement, deal with it.

Otherwise, I'll just assume you're like one of those Hive sunshine crew members who automatically think certain players with high school creds automatically mean future all american. I'll never forget the post on the Hive in 2001, predicting that in 2003 we would compete for the National Championship because we would have all this senior experience, namely at the QB position with Suggs and Bilbo, etc. etc. About half the board fell over themselves agreeing we would be very strong in 2003.

I remember laughing because all these Hivers automatically thought that because we had some names on papers with some highschool stats, we were going to be badasses on the field. They don't understand college football.
 
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