Barnhart says its pay day for Coach J (also calls for 4 team playoff)

wesleyd21 said:
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2008/12/12/its_payday_for.html

Hey BOR....Barnhart and i both agree on the 4 team playoff.

He is MR COLLEGE FOOTBALL, you know...

You're just some dude who lives in Savannah.

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For me....it is either 16-team playoff or stay with what we have now.

Conf. champions from the 11 D1A conferences get automatic bid.

Indies have to secure one of 5 at-large bids or they are left out.

Quite frankly, I like what we have now anyway as in 9 of the past 10 years there as been consensus.
 
Ooo, also says Muschamp isn't going to coach at Auburn.
 
As I posted previously I think the only way to keep everyone including the bowls happy is a modified plus one sytem which is a 4 team playoff.

Take the top 4 ranked "Conference Champions" this keeps the people that want the regular season to stay so important happy. If you can't win your conference then you don't deserve to go.

Seed them 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 with a championship game to follow. That takes 3 bowl games.

If there is one undefeated team from a "non major" conference they get the 4 seed. If there are more than one undefeated "non major" schools then take the top 2 ranked of these and let them play in the first bowl game of the year to see who gets the 4 seed.

This year Boise and Utah would play to see who the #4 seed is that would play Oklahoma (#1 BCS)

Florida would be #2 and play USC #3. The winners would play in the national championship game.

My biggest problem with the way things are is that an undefeated team can get screwed. It even happened to an SEC team (Auburn).
 
But those sources also tell me that when Muschamp was at Auburn as DC, he and athletics director Jay Jacobs did not part on the best of terms.
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Is there anyone on "the best of terms" with those clowns?
 
BB_Bee5 said:
Take the top 4 ranked "Conference Champions" this keeps the people that want the regular season to stay so important happy. If you can't win your conference then you don't deserve to go.
If there is one undefeated team from a "non major" conference they get the 4 seed. If there are more than one undefeated "non major" schools then take the top 2 ranked of these and let them play in the first bowl game of the year to see who gets the 4 seed.
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This method would eliminate the ACC champion from ever being in the playoff because of media bias.

Every year it would be between SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and Pac-10.
 
hiveredtech said:
For me....it is either 16-team playoff or stay with what we have now.

Conf. champions from the 11 D1A conferences get automatic bid.

Indies have to secure one of 5 at-large bids or they are left out.

Quite frankly, I like what we have now anyway as in 9 of the past 10 years there as been consensus.
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So what's wrong with an 8-way? Major conferences get a payday. Indies get a shot. Less garbage games than the 16 format, where most of the 1st round is like the 1-16 and 2-15 in hoops.
 
Every system has its problems. The idea of the four highest ranked conf champs would blow up if two the best four teams nationally were from the same conference.

I think you have to go 16 teams deep to solve the exclusion problem. But that's four games. Never gonna happen.
 
Techbert said:
So what's wrong with an 8-way? Major conferences get a payday. Indies get a shot. Less garbage games than the 16 format, where most of the 1st round is like the 1-16 and 2-15 in hoops.
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8 game would not do it justice. 6 conference champions (ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, Big East, Pac 10) and two at-large still leave out teams that could win. This year that format would leave out the 3rd ranked Big 12 team: Texas Tech. And it would also leave out Ohio State (I hate 'em but they only have 1 loss like Florida and the rest of em). It would also leave out Utah and Boise State probably. If you went all at large for the top 8, you would be leaving out Boise State, Ohio State, TCU, and Cinci (a BCS conference champion). 16 team playoff does introduce some "lesser" teams on paper, but it gets rid of any potential arguments that people may have about their team being left out.
 
hiveredtech said:
This method would eliminate the ACC champion from ever being in the playoff because of media bias.

Every year it would be between SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and Pac-10.
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You may be correct if they all had 1 loss but maybe not. I think if there was an undefeated ACC team it would be in the top 4. FSU and Miami have been in the top 2 and played in the game prior to ACC affiliation.
 
BB_Bee5 said:
You may be correct if they all had 1 loss but maybe not. I think if there was an undefeated ACC team it would be in the top 4. FSU and Miami have been in the top 2 and played in the game prior to ACC affiliation.
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The problem with the BCS is always around 1-loss teams...only one year in eleven tries has there been confusion around undefeated teams.

So...considering that 10 out of 11 times discussion is around one-loss teams...I would like the ACC to have an equal shot if the champ had one loss.
 
Techbert said:
So what's wrong with an 8-way? Major conferences get a payday. Indies get a shot. Less garbage games than the 16 format, where most of the 1st round is like the 1-16 and 2-15 in hoops.
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I just see little way that the top tier of college football can go to a playoff format without a guarantee to the champion of all 11 conferences a spot...at least not without major lawsuits on their hands.

just my opinion...which does not matter at all.

BCS is under contract through 2013 anyway....just got extended.
 
What's the big deal about playoffs and lawsuits? Over 3/4 of the mid-major teams are perennially useless and we could just separate the divisions if need be.

The BCS is under contract, but Gailey was also under a contract. These things get changed all the time and a playoff system set up correctly, ie keeping bowl matchups mostly in tact, would be very agreeable with the current BCS TV stations.
 
hiveredtech said:
The problem with the BCS is always around 1-loss teams...only one year in eleven tries has there been confusion around undefeated teams.

So...considering that 10 out of 11 times discussion is around one-loss teams...I would like the ACC to have an equal shot if the champ had one loss.
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Actually just last year VT was #3 in final BCS polls before the bowl games.
 
hiveredtech said:
The problem with the BCS is always around 1-loss teams...only one year in eleven tries has there been confusion around undefeated teams.

So...considering that 10 out of 11 times discussion is around one-loss teams...I would like the ACC to have an equal shot if the champ had one loss.
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Actually just last year VT was #3 in final BCS polls before the bowl games. They had 2 loses.
 
floridajacket said:
What's the big deal about playoffs and lawsuits? Over 3/4 of the mid-major teams are perennially useless and we could just separate the divisions if need be. .
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A lawsuit is what got the BCS Series to loosen its standards to allow more room for a non-BCS Conf. undefeated team to get in based on a lower ranking. Lawsuit was dropped when BCS lowered its standard.
 
BarrelORum said:
Who happens to be more qualified than he is to do his job and I'm not even in that line of work.
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You're just jealous me and that genius know what we're talking about.

What was your suggestion on the playoff format?
 
I don't believe in playoffs. I like the fact that the last game of the season can be a win for several fans and that more than one team can argue about who is number 1. That's what makes college football special and when you form a playoff you are taking yet another piece away from the game.
 
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