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Big 12 close to $2.28B media deal with ESPN, Fox

The Big 12 is near completion of a six-year media deal extension with ESPN and Fox Sports that is expected to be worth $380 million a year and will take hold starting in 2025.
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So is this going to be a catalyst to the ACC dissolution? Appears to be better money with half the viewers and zero top tier teams.
 
Buffalobuzz said:
www.espn.com

Big 12 close to $2.28B media deal with ESPN, Fox

The Big 12 is near completion of a six-year media deal extension with ESPN and Fox Sports that is expected to be worth $380 million a year and will take hold starting in 2025.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

So is this going to be a catalyst to the ACC dissolution? Appears to be better money with half the viewers and zero top tier teams.
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Hopefully it's a catalyst for renegotiation of the contract. The ACC isn't going anywhere.
 
Buffalobuzz said:
www.espn.com

Big 12 close to $2.28B media deal with ESPN, Fox

The Big 12 is near completion of a six-year media deal extension with ESPN and Fox Sports that is expected to be worth $380 million a year and will take hold starting in 2025.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

So is this going to be a catalyst to the ACC dissolution? Appears to be better money with half the viewers and zero top tier teams.
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So you really think the ACC outside of Clemson has any “top tier” teams? The B12 is losing Texas and OU (Texas has had 1 good year in about a decade, OU is trending down right now) and adding BYU, Cincy, UCF and Houston. That league is much better based on the current state of the programs in the B12 and coming to the B12 vs what the ACC currently has to offer. ESPN has absolutely no incentive to renegotiate the current deal.
 
FightOn!Jacket said:
So you really think the ACC outside of Clemson has any “top tier” teams? The B12 is losing Texas and OU (Texas has had 1 good year in about a decade, OU is trending down right now) and adding BYU, Cincy, UCF and Houston. That league is much better based on the current state of the programs in the B12 and coming to the B12 vs what the ACC currently has to offer. ESPN has absolutely no incentive to renegotiate the current deal.
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ööööing Swofford ööööed us
 
Buffalobuzz said:
www.espn.com

Big 12 close to $2.28B media deal with ESPN, Fox

The Big 12 is near completion of a six-year media deal extension with ESPN and Fox Sports that is expected to be worth $380 million a year and will take hold starting in 2025.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

So is this going to be a catalyst to the ACC dissolution? Appears to be better money with half the viewers and zero top tier teams.
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The Big XII is doing a great job of damage control, but even so, the ACC should be around $3.7M per school ahead of the Big XII by the time Texas and Oklahoma make their getaway. Of course, that also assumes the ACC does nothing at all to improve its revenue. We'll see...
 
FightOn!Jacket said:
So you really think the ACC outside of Clemson has any “top tier” teams? The B12 is losing Texas and OU (Texas has had 1 good year in about a decade, OU is trending down right now) and adding BYU, Cincy, UCF and Houston. That league is much better based on the current state of the programs in the B12 and coming to the B12 vs what the ACC currently has to offer. ESPN has absolutely no incentive to renegotiate the current deal.
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Interesting perspective. Looks to me like a group of programs that don't compete for playoff bids or move the needle for college football at all. TCU, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State are their top teams this year.
 
GTFLETCH said:
The Big XII is doing a great job of damage control, but even so, the ACC should be around $3.7M per school ahead of the Big XII by the time Texas and Oklahoma make their getaway. Of course, that also assumes the ACC does nothing at all to improve its revenue. We'll see...
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The ACC is trapped. There is no mechanism in our contract to force renegotiation. Swofford and every single person associated and agreeing to the ACC contract failed, miserably.

At the very least, there should have been a clause in the contract saying the ACC $$$ should be inside of 90% the value of the largest CFB football contract, automatically recalculated when any conference gets a new contract.

But nope, Swofford is one dumb SOB
 
gtfan088 said:
Interesting perspective. Looks to me like a group of programs that don't compete for playoff bids or move the needle for college football at all. TCU, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State are their top teams this year.
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TCU, Baylor, Okie State have all been battling for CFP bids multiple times since the inception of the CFP. Do you not remember the controversy of 2014? tOSU jumping #3 TCU? That was the reason the B12 with 10 teams petitioned the NCAA to have a Championship game. Okie State would have made the CFP over Cincy last year if not for the goal line stand by Baylor in the B12 Championship game. So it hasn’t just been OU.

We all know the UCF perfect season and Cincy going to the CFP last year. So those additions along with BYU and Houston make it a strong league top to bottom.

The ACC has not had anyone finish inside the Top 7 after Championship week in the CFP era not named FSU or Clemson outside of the 2020 COVID season where ND played as an ACC team.

So name the programs in the ACC not named Clemson that “move the needle“ right now? I see a conference full of middling programs with half empty stadiums weekly. And that includes the perceived “blue blood” programs in FSU, Miami. VT is a shell of what they once were under Beamer.
 
Buffalobuzz said:
www.espn.com

Big 12 close to $2.28B media deal with ESPN, Fox

The Big 12 is near completion of a six-year media deal extension with ESPN and Fox Sports that is expected to be worth $380 million a year and will take hold starting in 2025.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

So is this going to be a catalyst to the ACC dissolution? Appears to be better money with half the viewers and zero top tier teams.
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The ACC can’t get that.

In the local Southeastern media area they are eclipsed by the competition from the SEC. If you understand business, you understand that. If you don’t, you hold onto the false believe that the ACC is somehow going to stay together as a major player in college football.

It won’t. Notre Dame will dissolve its relationship with the ACC in the next 18-24 mos.

Then Clemson will be out the door, followed by Miami and FSU.

Basketball stadiums are 1/3 the size of football stadiums for a reason.

People have poked fun at me for poking fun at the ACC for years. The ACC is finally going to be delegated to where it belongs— basketball. And that’s it.

GT deserves better. We have to get to the Big Ten to survive.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
The ACC can’t get that.

In the local Southeastern media area they are eclipsed by the competition from the SEC. If you understand business, you understand that. If you don’t, you hold onto the false believe that the ACC is somehow going to stay together as a major player in college football.

It won’t. Notre Dame will dissolve its relationship with the ACC in the next 18-24 mos.

Then Clemson will be out the door, followed by Miami and FSU.

Basketball stadiums are 1/3 the size of football stadiums for a reason.

People have poked fun at me for poking fun at the ACC for years. The ACC is finally going to be delegated to where it belongs— basketball. And that’s it.

GT deserves better. We have to get to the Big Ten to survive.
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Your timeline for the dissolution of the ACC sounds a lot like Elon Musk's timeline for self driving cars.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
The ACC can’t get that.

Then Clemson will be out the door, followed by Miami and FSU.

GT deserves better. We have to get to the Big Ten to survive.
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Are you saying they will pay the buyout or that the conference will dissolve?

GT won't get into the BIG unless we accept a lower share of the TV revs. Might not be enough to make it worth the struggle.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
Are you saying they will pay the buyout or that the conference will dissolve?

GT won't get into the BIG unless we accept a lower share of the TV revs. Might not be enough to make it worth the struggle.
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I’m saying the ACC is in big trouble. Even if Clemson and FSU and Miami don’t leave (i’m very confident one or more will) The ACC would not be able to compete with two super conferences. USC and UCLA to the Big is a game changer. The PAC-10 and ACC Will be on the outside looking in, and no good football players are going to want to play in the ACC. Or to state it more realistically, even fewer good football players are going to want to play in the ACC. The ACC is a terrible football conference. Always has been. Always will be. It will only get worse. GT has to do whatever we have to do to get out. Or stay in and just try to enjoy basketball.
 
The ACC rises and falls based on one program: Georgia Tech. If we get our act together see how much stronger the ACC looks. We are the anchor, look internally first.
 
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