California/Stanford poll

Are you in favor of adding Cal and Stanford to the ACC, assuming a financially favorable deal?

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justafan said:
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I am in favor of adding Cal, Stanford and SMU.

1- It would add two major markets to the ACC.

2- It would get ACC games on ESPN late on Saturday night's.

3- Cal and Stanford are major universities that would add academic prestige to the ACC, which is still important to some people.

4- It should lead to more viewers of the ACC network.

5- Cal and Stanford are bigger names in sports than half the teams in the ACC now.

6- It could help ACC teams recruit in California and Texas.

7- It would show the ACC is doing something positive and not just sitting around waiting to fall apart.

8- It could improve the chances of ND maintaining or increasing its relationship with the ACC.

9- It could increase TV revenue for the ACC.
 
I can’t imagine a scenario that this will be unequivocally financially favorable for tech in the short and long term. Therefore, I am opposed unless there is an actual compelling argument for it.
 
aeromech said:
A financially favorably deal doesn't make sense to you? I don't think GTAA is in a good position to say 'Nope' to financially favorable deals.
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This is a stupid hypothetical.

The best case scenario is we can short change 3 schools for a few years to squeak out an extra million or two. In that scenario, it would be temporary and then we would be stuck having added 3 brands that don't move the needle at all. Very short term, minor financial gain so that we can be stuck with schools no one really wants to add. Hooray!

The most likely scenario is that there is no great deal to be made. Adding 3 meaningless programs so ESPN has more inventory and the ability to show Stanford vs. BC at midnight on ESPN8 won't raise the value of the ACC TV contract on a per-school basis.
 
I cannot imagine any scenario where the ACC adds those teams that isn’t horrible for non-revenue sports. I think this latest round of conference realignment is a big step toward college football breaking away from the NCAA. What’s good for football (and to a lesser degree, basketball) just isn’t good for anything else.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
I can’t imagine a scenario that this will be unequivocally financially favorable for tech in the short and long term. Therefore, I am opposed unless there is an actual compelling argument for it.
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I’m mostly with you, which but the OP posted a hypothetical.

One way it could plausibly happen is if ND is involved. If ND doesn’t get a great TV offer or is blocked from the playoffs, they may look to join a conference. B1G and ACC have to then compete, and while B1G is the clear front runner, there may be a scenario where B1G demands equal payout while ACC offers unequal plus Navy and Stanford in-conference, which makes ND better off while also making all ACC schools better off.

An unlikely scenario, but a plausible one.
 
coit said:
I agree with most of your points but I’m pretty sure they are in the same TV market. Both are Bay Area.
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Thank you. On the TV markets and recruiting, I was thinking of SF and Dallas, if the ACC added Stanford, Cal and SMU. People in the ACC make fun of the ACC, but I don't think the Big 10 would like to see the ACC have the two biggest college teams in SF, and I don't think the SEC or Big 12 would like seeing the ACC in Dallas.
 
Sometimes you make decisions and the future decisions after that are hard to predict, but it feels right and you proceed.
It feels right for the ACC to have Stanford/Cal particularly when you realize a handful of our current teams could move on.
If football continues its trend, Tech will likely not be a player (in a 32 team league for example). If we get to that, then Tech fans must understand that a second Ivy League that wants to compete will be best for us.
And the travel is not a problem for us!
 
midatlantech said:
Sometimes you make decisions and the future decisions after that are hard to predict, but it feels right and you proceed.
It feels right for the ACC to have Stanford/Cal particularly when you realize a handful of our current teams could move on.
If football continues its trend, Tech will likely not be a player (in a 32 team league for example). If we get to that, then Tech fans must understand that a second Ivy League that wants to compete will be best for us.
And the travel is not a problem for us!
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This is about reaching out to other power 5s that will get left behind. This is about strength in numbers
 
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