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They were in the top 3 in YPA each of the last four years except 2006, when they were mediocre. I think the starting QB got hurt halfway through 2006, but Kaheaku-Enhada took over and had better numbers anyway.
I couldn't find YPA/YPC tracked and ranked specifically anywhere but they are kept unranked by the NCAA. Based on those numbers I think these rankings are correct.
2007: 16.7 YPC (1st), 9.11 YPA (3rd behind UF and Tulsa)
2006: 14.2 YPC (3rd behind Louisville and OSU), 6.5 YPA (nowhere near ranked)
2005: 20.3 YPC (1st), 9.51 YPA (1st)
2004: 18.3 YPC (1st), 9.77 YPA (2nd to Auburn)
2003: 17.6 YPC (1st), 8.25 YPA (20th)
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Don't you mean Burnett, and DB?
I agree with your post, though. I think the only way we switch him is if he becomes a two-way player.
(And for my money, a great CB/S is rarer than a great QB - good O-lines can turn an average QB into a great one).
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Johnson's QB's do seem well coached and deliver the ball well, and when the WR's get the ball they often have the opportunity to make big plays.
But a true WR is definitely gonna have a hard time getting the total touches or total yards that he would starting at a place that throws it 50% or more. That's no secret to anyone.
A smaller, faster kid who could play slotback could be passing up a dream opportunity. 1000 yards rushing and receiving, and a lot of it highlight-reel worthy.
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If we throw it 20 times, at 10 YPA, that's 200 yards passing per game. Say 50 of that goes to slotbacks, 150 to WRs. Say two thirds of that goes to starters. That's 50 ypg production, and a higher likelihood of getting on Sportscenter than the previous regime.
Just seems dumb to me to go to Bama or South Carolina to be a 3rd WR when we'll have that kind of YPA.
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some of the best WR's in the NFL are very good at blocking, take the colts for example and the Pats. Your top NFL teams take that into serious consideration when looking for WR's. I played with two of the best in Andre Reed and James Lofton and more really.
and the Steelers - HINES WARD. He may have been a mutt, but dang that guy is tough and can really block and make clutch catches.
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i am die-hard Steelers fan my whole life, he is my FAVORITE Steeler. he is a really good guy that always gets it done, and will do whatever he is asked to help the team -- with a good attitude. he must have left U(sic)GA early or just quickly gotten the blue-collar Yinzer bug
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It's interesting to hear all the concerns about our offensive system and how it will keep us from recruiting the best WR's, TE's, and QB's.
If I were recruiting against us I would focus on the defense. To top level DB's - do you really want to practice against an offense that will run 80% of the time and force you to come and defend the run, often on the pitch with blockers taking you on at the corner? To top DL's and LB's - do you really want to practice against an offense where you'll be blocked at practice between the knees and ankles and where your chances to work on pass rush will be limited? I would argue that their chance to develop NFL skills will go down at GT and their chance to injure a knee at practice will go up.
So, I see all of this one of two ways. One, PJ will recruit a very different kind of team and athlete in the years to come. He will get the players to fit his system and roll the dice to see how it works. Or, two, PJ may be just baiting opponents into thinking GT will be a copy of Navy. In reality he may look at the athletes he can recruit at GT and run an offense that looks more like WVU's or Missourri's than Navy's when it comes time to play next fall.
If I were recruiting against us I would focus on the defense. To top level DB's - do you really want to practice against an offense that will run 80% of the time and force you to come and defend the run, often on the pitch with blockers taking you on at the corner? To top DL's and LB's - do you really want to practice against an offense where you'll be blocked at practice between the knees and ankles and where your chances to work on pass rush will be limited? I would argue that their chance to develop NFL skills will go down at GT and their chance to injure a knee at practice will go up.
So, I see all of this one of two ways. One, PJ will recruit a very different kind of team and athlete in the years to come. He will get the players to fit his system and roll the dice to see how it works. Or, two, PJ may be just baiting opponents into thinking GT will be a copy of Navy. In reality he may look at the athletes he can recruit at GT and run an offense that looks more like WVU's or Missourri's than Navy's when it comes time to play next fall.
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Do you work for Duke???
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Okay I'm the biggest CPJ fan around and noone knows exactly what will happen, but all of the info from the coaches suggests that you will be disappointed if you're looking for 200 YPG passing.
First, the GT Sports Blog misquoted CBB and the Hive report. CBB said "we WON'T throw 20-25 passes per game." The context was very clear that the staff intends to throw it less than that.
Second, 10 YPA over the long haul is a pretty high expectation. Only a handful of teams have done it for a season in D1A history (Joe Hamilton got there in '99, but GT as a team didn't).
Navy did approach it a couple of times for a season, but they "only" avg'd 8.7 YPA from 2003-2007 -- a stellar figure for a 5 year period.
So a very optimistic estimate for passing yardage would be 150 yards per game: 17-18 passes per game for 8.5-9 yards per attempt. This would mean throwing 60-70% more often than Navy did, with the same per-attempt average.
It would also fit the circulating idea that CPJ's goal is 350 rushing and 150 passing per game. Does anyone have reliable info that he said that?
Finally, there are effectively 4 WR's in our offense. The SB's catch as many passes as the WR's; every year except 2005 the leading Navy receiver was a SB.
So a true WR here (who isn't playing slotback) will split touches at least as much as he would anywhere else.
OTOH, playing SB here should be awesome for anyone, you could easily get 1000 yards rushing + receiving and a lot of that will be highlight-reel worthy.
I assume you mean DJ Donley and Chris Jackson. I think both would be gone no matter how much we were going to throw.
DJD wasn't a WR any more, he was moved to D and he was fine with that move. The reason he left is that he doesn't like GT as a school and wasn't happy here.
CJ was told he could be used as a slotback at GT and that would get him plenty of action. But he really lost faith with the coaching change, especially when we cut Renfree loose. He had a huge personal stake in recruiting Renfree to GT.
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No. But, I can honestly tell you that the idea of recruiting against our system with regard to its disadvantages for defensive players came from a conversation with a coaching friend who said that was exactly the thoughts of someone on the current Georgia Southern staff after the PJ hire.
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77, #1 Defenses spend little time practicing against the #1 offenses. Scout teams normally run the offense that they will see each week.
Regardless, if you look at the NFL, there is absolutely zero corelation to DB's who got to go up against the best WR's. How many of Tech's CB's that played against CJ are now in the NFL? Zero. There is no connection at all.
They all learn and work on their individual CB skills. Interestingly, I see a whole bunch of CB's that don't make the NFL because they DO NOT learn to defend/tackle against the run. See Kenny Scott, for example. There are a bunch that can run, but not that many that do both.
My guess is that the NFL is looking for the measurables, the toughness and the desire to make the tackle happen. Then they teach you how to be a top cornerback against the NFL's offenses.
Teams may use your argument against us, but the kind of kid that wants to attend Tech will and should ignore it.
Regardless, if you look at the NFL, there is absolutely zero corelation to DB's who got to go up against the best WR's. How many of Tech's CB's that played against CJ are now in the NFL? Zero. There is no connection at all.
They all learn and work on their individual CB skills. Interestingly, I see a whole bunch of CB's that don't make the NFL because they DO NOT learn to defend/tackle against the run. See Kenny Scott, for example. There are a bunch that can run, but not that many that do both.
My guess is that the NFL is looking for the measurables, the toughness and the desire to make the tackle happen. Then they teach you how to be a top cornerback against the NFL's offenses.
Teams may use your argument against us, but the kind of kid that wants to attend Tech will and should ignore it.
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Well that would indeed ruin my math.
Informative post, thanks sir.
Thank you!
I would also have also assumed 200 YPG passing based on that blog post. It's not just a small misquote, it completely changes our entire vision of the offense!
I'm really curious about CPJ's goal supposedly being 350/150 rush/pass per game though. It was quoted by AFRJacket and someone else on the Hive, and maybe on here as well. Did CPJ really say that?
If so it's a damn bold statement and shows a complete lack of willingness to accept less than excellence.
IMO 320/120 without a defensive dropoff would make GT a first tier national power, much less 350/150. :biggthumpup:
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I played MLB for a nationally ranked defense in Division III in late 80's. We were playoff calibre, which is hard to do in division III because only 20 of over 300 teams make it.
Our offense was the Wing T.
I can tell you, we faced all kinds of offenses: I-stem, pro-set, veer, power running, throw it 50 times a game, etc.
IT DID NOT AFFECT OUR DEFENSE IN THE LEAST BIT THAT OUR O WAS THE WING T. In fact, we hardly ever played against it (and when we did, we shut its ass down). Usually we had a Scout offense to practice against, almost more for where to line up, see motion, adjust, etc.
Opposing teams may try this tact, but from my personal experience of actually playing four years of college ball, it is bullhockey. We had an awesome secondary that teams struggled to throw against.
As a person who attended the event where Coach Bohannon spoke, he was completely tongue-in-cheek about Morgan Burnett moving to QB. He thinks Josh Nesbitt has all the skills in the world, but has never run an option offense before. His comment about Burnett was to illustrate that they were going to be looking at every imaginable combination to get the best 22 players on the field.
This may be true now, but once the team is on the field and people see how we play it goes out the window. What we're dealing with now is the uncertainty of what we're actually going to look like. Kids only know what they've seen of PJ at Navy, and most don't have a clue what Wommack's defense will look like. Once they have something to refer to it won't be an issue.