Chizik refuses to suit up the team

And it's not unprecedented for a school from Alabama to lose to Louisiana Tech...
 
floridajacket said:
And it's not unprecedented for a school from Alabama to lose to Louisiana Tech...
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Or force LSU into the largest comeback in school history. FYI the schools' name didn't begin with A.
Heh, I'm gonna hold that game over my LSU-fan of a friend for a long time.
 
Check out Gene Stallings' record as a head coach when Alabama hired him - horrible.

The coaching staff is the critical thing in college. Give a head coach a great staff (Bill Lewis @ East Carolina) he will succeed, give him a lousy staff (Bill Lewis @ Tech) he will fail.

Not to defend Chizik - I think he's clueless and will fail miserably at Auburn.

BTW, I guess I'm slow 'cause I just noticed who Chizik's DC is!

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I think he made solid picks for his coordinators. Malzahn was awesome at Tulsa, and Ted really improved Minnesota's D from horrible to mediocre.

My issue with Cheesedick is that he has them getting carted from the field to the locker room and practicing like they are about to start a flag football season. It's also has to be concerning for AU fans to read how much the player's like his "laid back" style.
Last year, I read numerous interviews with players that talked about how tough PJ's practices were. I, like PJ, believe a team is made in the spring/fall practices, not during the season.
I have a feeling that AU will get punched in the mouth and fold....and Auburn, no matter how crappy, never did that under Tubs.
 
mm42 said:
Check out Gene Stallings' record as a head coach when Alabama hired him - horrible.

The coaching staff is the critical thing in college. Give a head coach a great staff (Bill Lewis @ East Carolina) he will succeed, give him a lousy staff (Bill Lewis @ Tech) he will fail.
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mm42, if IIRC Bill Lewis let most of Bobby Ross's staff depart including Fridge and O'Leary while he brought in much if not most of his staff from EC. No?
 
GTLiebs said:
Actually Chizik is kind of an inverse of that guy. Chizik had been a part of successful teams in the past but his recent years before being hired sucked.
B*** L**** did not have a winning season as a head coach until the year before we hired him, where he went 11-1 at ECU (fluke of the decade it would now seem). I think Chizik will get the standard 3-5 years to show results.
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He had Jeff Blake at QB and didn't really play anyone. I think he won National Coach of the Year in 1991. When Ross left Homer Rice moved fast to hire him as he was the "sexy" hire at the time. That was my sophmore year in college. Bill looked like he was going to have a phenomenal year in 1992 starting the season 4-1 and FSU came to town. We had an 11 point lead with less than 5 minutes left and ended up losing. That game was a the worst heartbreaker of a game I can remember. 1997 UGA is probably tied with that game as the hardest one to take.

After the game Lewis was in the locker room being interviewed postgame, and he blamed the players. He lost the team right then and there and after that was never able to recover. Unfortunately it took two more years for Homer to figure it out.
 
Guz Malzahn will lead them to an SEC Championship appearance in 2009. You heard it here first. I'll bump the post in December.
 
Essobee said:
mm42, if IIRC Bill Lewis let most of Bobby Ross's staff depart including Fridge and O'Leary while he brought in much if not most of his staff from EC. No?
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No - a lot of his EC staff stayed there, including QB coach Jeff Jagodzinski and offensive coordinator Steve Logan, who became the head coach. Logan became the winningest coach in EC history, JJ went on to be head coach at BC and is now OC for Tampa Bay.

Lewis did dump Ross' staff, but then he brought in a new, practically from scratch staff.
 
msm5 said:
While this is true, I think that having one winning season in six years is worse than having no winning season in two years. Yes, Bill Lewis had a higher percentage of winning seasons than Chizik did, but Chizik's sample size is small. As I tried to point out in my first post, according to what I've read (I could probably dig it up somewhere), coaches in the Big 12/people who follow he Big 12 closely said that the team is vastly improved from when he took over. This may be akin to being the wealthiest person in Malawi, but it may also mean that he was one year away from showing progress when it comes to W-L. Remember that Mangino was considered to be on the hot seat before KU really got going.

Pretend that Iowa State improves this year (say a 5-7 record). Do we give Chizik credit for assembling the pieces, or do we say that Chizik was the one holding the team back?
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Well, Iowa State won 9,7,7,2,7,7,4 in the 7 years before Chizik arrived. He went 3-9 and 2-10. If that's improvement I don't see how. Also the AD was amazed that anyone offered him a job and upset that he had basically blown up the program and started it anew (which he was hired to do) but would leave them in the condition he did.
 
If I only had 71 scholly players, I wouldn't let them hit each other either.
 
msm5 said:
I don't know what Lewis did before he was a HC, but at Wyoming and ECU, he was 34-33-2. He had been involved with one team with a winning record (out of six seasons) as a HC. Maybe he had been a great OC/DC somewhere, but if not, then I don't think the comparison with Chizik is accurate.
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That's a far better record than Chizik had. Anyone who defends that hire is war eagle/tiger/plainsman fan or not with it.

Of course, given the fact that Auburn runs its football program like the Somali's run their country, it may have been the best that pitiful program could do.

Of course, as long as their fans buy the subscriptions I'm sure they'll keep the top 25 recruiting classes every year.
 
BarrelORum said:
After the game Lewis was in the locker room being interviewed postgame, and he blamed the players.
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Guess Tommy Bowden didn't learn from Bill's failure. Last year when he came out saying that I thought, what an a$$, way to protect your players...:rolleyes:
 
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