Chris Hatcher or Paul Johnson?

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Even though there are still many candidates for this job, in my opinion the two best ones out there are chris hatcher and paul johnson. Who would you choose then?

I would go with Hatcher. First, Both are great coaches and have ties to our state and are good with recruiting. However, Johnson is 50 or so and is beginning to show age. Hatcher, on the other hand, is young and energetic, wants to win, and starts his teams on the fast track to success from the beginning of his first season at any school. he's already won national championships (even though at Valdosta State, a DII school) and in his first season at GSU he has already turned that program around. Johnson maybe a cause for concern after his team lost to delaware and ball state this season and his defense gave up 62 points in a 74-62 win over North Texas, a sun belt conference school. he has still had an average of 8 wins a season at a service academy and has led navy to bowl games the past 4 or 5 years or so or something along those lines. what he has accomplished there used to be unthinkable at a school like navy where there is minimal scholarships/recruiting.

my only concern about both of them is that they run that spread offense/triple option package that is a staple at GSU and at many DI-AA programs but would never work in the ACC or a major BCS conference. Anyways, I will stand behind D-Rad in all of his decisions about this job, but I would love to see hatcher as the next tech head coach.

What are your opinions?
 
I hope we will be able to attract a more qualified coach than these 2....:fingersx:
 
GTwreckfan852 said:
my only concern about both of them is that they run that spread offense/triple option package that is a staple at GSU and at many DI-AA programs but would never work in the ACC or a major BCS conference. Anyways, I will stand behind D-Rad in all of his decisions about this job, but I would love to see hatcher as the next tech head coach.

What are your opinions?
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You might want to check out the offense that #1 ranked Missouri runs...
 
Hatcher has no D1 experience and no experience recruiting to high academic standards. His name should not even be in consideration.

Paul Johnson has both of these and experience recruiting in Georgia (as does Hatcher). The Naval Academy requirements are very similar to GT therefore he understands the GT limitations on recruiting.
 
OfficiallyBuzz said:
Hatcher has no D1 experience and no experience recruiting to high academic standards. His name should not even be in consideration.
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this may be true but i think that in order to re-energize this program and our fan base we're going to have to take some risks. In my opinion, hiring hatcher would be a risk worth taking and could pay off big.
 
Two absolutely lovely choices. Either one. Or Edsall.
 
OfficiallyBuzz said:
Hatcher has no D1 experience and no experience recruiting to high academic standards. His name should not even be in consideration.

Paul Johnson has both of these and experience recruiting in Georgia (as does Hatcher). The Naval Academy requirements are very similar to GT therefore he understands the GT limitations on recruiting.
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First, Hatcher has D1 experience as a QB coach (1 Yr at UCF w/Daunte Culpepper & 3 Yrs at UK w/Tim Couch).

Second, using your criteria pretty much eliminates every realistic candidate that has been mentioned except Paul Johnson. Who else should we be considering?
 
JTS I accept your comment on my criteria. I did not mean it as one for all coaching possibilities, only that it applied to PJ.

As for others I like Paul Christensen and Jimbo Fisher.

Food for thought - What would it take to bring back Bobby Ross? Or could we get the 11 and 3 lifetime coach vs UGA from the Gamecocks?
 
i heard bobby ross was in retirement for good and was done with coaching. for spurrier, I would love for it to happen but it would cost us a ton of money. not to mention there is no way in hell spurrier is coming here.
 
Bobby Ross is great, but I think he is done coaching. I just don't think he has the energy / passion for it anymore.

Spurrier would obviously be incredible, but he has already complained about the academic restrictions at USC. Given that, why would he come to GT? Plus, he makes like $1.7-1.8M already. I assume we would have to offer something significantly higher to interest him and pay some sort of buyout. Can we afford that? We also kind of burned him when we hired Curry over him and did not retain him on the staff. Probably the biggest mistake we have ever made in hind sight. In Hatcher, I see the same sort of coaching prodigy, same sort of ego, same sort of desire to win and that is why I like him.
 
Paul Johnson .... no. I'm not feeling it. He doesn't have to recruit at Navy because the players go to Navy first, play football second. By design, football is far from #1 priority for those kids at Navy. It is a different ball game at Tech. Next, gimmick offense that I don't get the feeling will work in a larger conference. Lastly, Navy hasn't done anything really earth-shattering in recent history.

As far as Chris Hatcher goes, I think I could get behind him. I like the winning background and the apparent passion for the game. If he runs a gadget offense that I have read some allusions to, then that would be a strike against him. He gets some extra points for being the unknown, though.
 
If you think that Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon, California, Clemson, West Virginia, Missouri, Kansas, Texas Tech, Kentucky, Purdue, et al run gimmick offenses then Hatcher runs a gimmick offense too. He runs a spread option offense that is being used successfully at many programs right now.
 
JTS said:
If you think that Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon, California, Clemson, West Virginia, Missouri, Kansas, Texas Tech, Kentucky, Purdue, et al run gimmick offenses then Hatcher runs a gimmick offense too. He runs a spread option offense that is being used successfully at many programs right now.
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Actually PJ does not run a spread offense. He runs the traditional triple option out of the flexbone.
 
GTKyle said:
Actually PJ does not run a spread offense. He runs the traditional triple option out of the flexbone.
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Check his post Kyle he said Hatcher, not PJ.

Hatcher runs a variation of the Air Raid offense he learned from Hal Mumme at Kentucky... the "Hatch Attack" is very similar to the Texas Tech spread option that puts fast people all over the field and throws the ball around alot....

http://www.connectstatesboro.com/show_article.php?article_id=1945


http://www.americanfootballmonthly.com/Subaccess/Magazine/2004/dec/air_raid_offense.html
 
rambleON said:
Check his post Kyle he said Hatcher, not PJ.

Hatcher runs a variation of the Air Raid offense he learned from Hal Mumme at Kentucky... the "Hatch Attack" is very similar to the Texas Tech spread option that puts fast people all over the field and throws the ball around alot....

http://www.connectstatesboro.com/show_article.php?article_id=1945


http://www.americanfootballmonthly.com/Subaccess/Magazine/2004/dec/air_raid_offense.html
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Whoops, you're right, sorry, my mistake.

Texas Tech runs pass-happy spread formations, not the spread option. WVU runs the spread option.

IMO, with the players we have the spread option is a better fit.

We saw some 4, 5 WR set formations earlier this season. We had notable success with it against Army, but Taylor threw one or two picks with it against VPI.

I think we need to look at the state of Georgia and Florida (our primary recruiting states) High School football and design our offensive system to complement their systems. One of the big problems with Nebraska under Callahan was that he changed Nebraska from an option team to a west-coast team. Therefore, he had to teach a new offense to all the in-state players because most Nebraska high schools run the option. Not only that, he had to change his recruiting philosophy to include players that would fit well in his west-coast style scheme.
 
I think a prerequisite for the new coach is that they have to run some variation of the spread offense. Dwyer, Nesbitt, Jackson & Jenkins (if we can keep him) would fit great into such an offense. Whether this applies to Hatcher, or not, I don't know.
 
Texas Tech runs pass-happy spread formations, not the spread option. WVU runs the spread option.
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Correct.

Texas Tech's big "innovation" is they spread their O Line out wider than normal too, so the QB can more easily see the blitz, and always has at least 1 hot read in every formation to counteract it. Defending against Texas Tech is either "let them have time to pass" or "give them 7 yards on their hot read," and all the QB reads are done within three seconds of the snap. Other than that, it's pretty much Hawaii or the old UF fun-and-gun.

I have no idea what "Hatch Attack" consists of, but if it's the old Kentucky offense, it's a less interesting fun-and-gun.
 
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