Coach Johnson Playbook (from GA Southern)

[mrk58]

Assume this has already been posted here, but in case not, I found it while reading up on the O heading into the games this week. Pretty interesting stuff, especially the philosophy parts.

http://fastandfuriousfootball.com/w...legeoffense2/1990 GSU Paul Johnson Option.pdf

 

[LegendaryGT]

There is a ton of interesting stuff in the philosophy. I wonder if/how it has changed in the last 25 years.

 

[gt2690b]

Please delete this post in an hour or so

 

[BuzzCzar]

I wonder if/how it has changed in the last 25 years.

he has added the "How badly I want to clawhammer Frank Beamer" chapter and the "If they talk too much smack, punch 'em in the mouth" chapter

he has expanded the appendix of go-to phrases: we will have to look at the film, it is what it is, etc

 

[TampaBayJacket]

The QB description pretty much describes Nesbitt, JT, and to a much lesser extent Tevin. It all but red-flags Vad Lee but much of that description wasn't known until actual game play.

 

[JJacket]

I bet Mississippi State done printed this off and has given it to all of their players. Thank God none of them can read.

 

[TNJacketFan]

I bet Mississippi State done printed this off and has given it to all of their players. Thank God none of them can read.

Are you sure you're not talking about the tarhole players? :cool:

 

[Akıncı]

The QB description pretty much describes Nesbitt, JT, and to a much lesser extent Tevin. It all but red-flags Vad Lee but much of that description wasn't known until actual game play.

Tevin is 50/50 on second question. But still a much better option quarterback than Vad who is no in the other two questions.

What I wonder is, knowing this, why didn't Paul Johnson see that Vad wouldn't be a good fit for the program?

 

[TNJacketFan]

Tevin is 50/50 on second question. But still a much better option quarterback than Vad who is no in the other two questions.

What I wonder is, knowing this, why didn't Paul Johnson see that Vad wouldn't be a good fit for the program?

Physically Vad had all the tools but no coach can measure the desire to work and buy into the offense

 

[mrk58]

The QB description pretty much describes Nesbitt, JT, and to a much lesser extent Tevin. It all but red-flags Vad Lee but much of that description wasn't known until actual game play.

One of the worst (of many) NCAA recruiting rules is the restricted contact a coaching staff has to really evaluate and build a relationship with recruits so this type of "soft factor" can be determined.

It's really frustrating to watch the NCAA create rules that basically benefit the USCs, Bamas and Texas's of the world.

 

[mrk58]

What I wonder is, knowing this, why didn't Paul Johnson see that Vad wouldn't be a good fit for the program?

Physically Vad had all the tools but no coach can measure the desire to work and buy into the offense

I actually think that a coach can measure that, and realistically, it's what your assistants have to do by building relationships with the player and his high school coaches. Problem is, the NCAA has cut back so much on evaluation periods that it's pretty hard to crack that nut during today's recruiting process.

I really wish the NCAA would back off of that AND allow for early signings (not an early signing day). I.e., if a team offers, the player should have the option to immediately accept, which would be binding on both players. Somewhat counter-intuitively, this would slow the entire process down because coaches would have to be serious about giving out "offers." I guarantee that the 8th grade offer would go the way of the dodo.

And you have the added benefit, on both sides of the equation, of knowing who REALLY wants you and who is just slow playing you as a backup.

 

[JJacket]

One of the worst (of many) NCAA recruiting rules is the restricted contact a coaching staff has to really evaluate and build a relationship with recruits so this type of "soft factor" can be determined.

It's really frustrating to watch the NCAA create rules that basically benefit the USCs, Bamas and Texas's of the world.

Two of those three teams we beat last time we played them

 

[Akıncı]

Vad was a back-up QB with extended playing time for an entire year before he became the starter. On top of that he won the starting job over redshirt freshman JT5 and Byerly. CPJ or Bohannon or Cook couldn't figure it out that whole time that he didn't have what it takes? Or did they just assume they could coach him up to be a serviceable option quarterback due to his athleticism?

 

[LegendaryGT]

Might have just been JT5 and Byerly so far behind in the knowledge of the offense that even a flawed Vad was legitimately better at the time.

 

[JJacket]

Might have just been JT5 and Byerly so far behind in the knowledge of the offense that even a flawed Vad was legitimately better at the time.

I think there was a bit of surprise in CPJ's voice earlier this season when he said that JT5 was a "gamer"

 

[Akıncı]

Coach the quarterbacks the same, regardless of athletic ability. Remember all the apples don't ripen at the same time. Some quarterbacks can mentally and physically accomplish a variety of tasks without much difficulty. Others struggle with the same tasks. More than likely it is because they aren't mentally and physically mature enough to accomplish those tasks. Allow a young quarterback ample time to develop. Some of the finest apples ripen late in the fall.

Reading further down into it, I think Vad gave up on us before CPJ gave up on him.

 

[The Champ]

Tevin is 50/50 on second question. But still a much better option quarterback than Vad who is no in the other two questions.

What I wonder is, knowing this, why didn't Paul Johnson see that Vad wouldn't be a good fit for the program?

Paul planned to enhance his offense around Vad and his skillset, he said as much when we was recruiting Vad and that is why Vad came here. When it was evident The evolved offense under Vad wasn't working, both Vad and CPJ moved onto greener pastures.