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18in32

Petard Hoister
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So he can just churn out 7 win seasons forever and never lose his job? I guarantee that if he really did just keep churning out 7 win seasons, it wouldn't take but a few years before UK fans wanted to fire him. The only place you get to plateau is the Saban Zone. Everybody else has to keep improving or they're out.
 

BainbridgeJacket

A rare combination of humility and genius
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So he can just churn out 7 win seasons forever and never lose his job? I guarantee that if he really did just keep churning out 7 win seasons, it wouldn't take but a few years before UK fans wanted to fire him. The only place you get to plateau is the Saban Zone. Everybody else has to keep improving or they're out.
How pissed would our fans have been if we'd put Geoff on a 4 yr deal with that clause back in 2018 and how happy would we be now if we had back then?
 

18in32

Petard Hoister
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How pissed would our fans have been if we'd put Geoff on a 4 yr deal with that clause back in 2018 and how happy would we be now if we had back then?
Pretty sure we didn't believe Geoff would take that deal. Though I bet he would've.
 

clapper

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I kind of want to offer that to the next coach.
If we gave that contract to CPJ, he would have needed to do something stupid like win only 3 games each over each of his last three years for his contract to be expiring exactly now.
 

BainbridgeJacket

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If we gave that contract to CPJ, he would have needed to do something stupid like win only 3 games each over each of his last three years for his contract to be expiring exactly now.
1) certainly possible with the roster situation we'd created for him to have not won 7 games
2) we would've been able to buyout his contract easily after a 5 win season in 2019 or forced retirement in 2020.

I wouldn't really be mad about it, though, if that's how it worked out. I don't remember exact contract timelines, but I think most of the time he was here, he had at least 4 yrs left on his deal and rarely more than the 5 this contract would peak at, so it really shouldn't be that much different than how we ended up handling his contract. In a way, it baselines CPJ as minimally acceptable which is a high bar to set expectation wise, imo.

The only way the structure gets out of hand contract wise is if a coach wins 10+ 4 or more times while never having a sub 7 win season. I guess I'm OK with that possibility.
 

BuzzinWreck78

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out after two seasons
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I do agree that Scott Frost should be removed or re-evaluated due to the contract restructure.
Our clown has risen to #3 unless you don't want to see the progress.
 

LagrangeJacket

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out after two seasons
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I do agree that Scott Frost should be removed or re-evaluated due to the contract restructure.
Our clown has risen to #3 unless you don't want to see the progress.
I would've taken a 52-10 loss last week. Or the week before. Or a few times in the previous 2 seasons.
 

77GTFan

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21-15 in 3 seasons. Hmmmmm!
Shannon, Golden, Richt, and Diaz in fourteen seasons. The U keeps plowing through coaches wanting to bring back the glory. Firing coaches after three or four seasons is no guaranteed path to success. Sometimes you need to look at bigger issues - playing home games 45 minutes from campus if traffic is light, a fan base heavy on non-grads, new programs in south and central Florida, just to name a few issues.
 

WracerX

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WracerX

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Definitely not Colorado State. Addazio was just fired after 2 seasons.
Seems like the last cycle Miami had gotten the right guy and so had UF. LSU might have been in the same boat with the right ‘fit’, but I can’t believe O was an ‘A’ rated guy.
 

QuadF

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Groh was fired in the middle of a season because our defense sucked so badly. Players not on the same page, struggling to get calls in, struggling to teach the athletes how to do their jobs.
 
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