College Football is broken...Who will fix it

TechInNC said:
I use Ivy League as an example of what sports generally looks like at a top tier academic school when de-empahsized, and basically played by actual students who are there to get a degree and graduate. I'm not saying I see Tech joining the Ivy League. That said, I do see a time when schools like Tech, Tulane, Duke, etc. band together for some level of college FB along those lines because none of those schools are going to prioritize NFL minor league feeder status over academics. If we were intent on doing that we would have ponied up for a Collins buyout last fall...
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That’s what GT should do.
There is nothing college about UGA, Bama, Clemson or OSU. And it’s boring.
 
College football has been broken for decades and most of you ate it up throughout your lives. Now all of a sudden because some of you chicken littles don’t like the latest iteration you think it’s broken now? Just funny. You ever heard of free shoes U? You ever heard of SMU or the Southwest Conference? You think the U didn’t buy titles? Or the Sooners? Or the Irish? What about USC and a guy who lost a Heisman? What about Herschel’s car? Bear Bryant ran the best money laundering operation since Capone. Meyer had a good one too. The sky is not falling. Just because GT football is dying doesn’t mean the sport is. Wake Forest says hi.
 
Uncle Mike said:
I say Coach Paul Johnson and the Triple Option will win the day...Fire Collins, Hire Monken...
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as stupid as this thread sounds, I wonder if the T-O will work better now in the day of the NIL. The biggest hang-up that Tech had under Johnson was with recruiting, but now if we just find somebody to shell out a little extra cash to get a few elite players, it might feasible to discuss whether bringing back the option would be something worth considering. Can you imagine if the NIL was around back in the glory days of CPJ? They could have dropped some extra cash on an elite running back or some defensive backs or linemen that might have ended up being game changers.

Maybe this is all crazy talk, but what else can we do but day dream?
 
OptionJacket said:
College football has been broken for decades and most of you ate it up throughout your lives. Now all of a sudden because some of you chicken littles don’t like the latest iteration you think it’s broken now? Just funny. You ever heard of free shoes U? You ever heard of SMU or the Southwest Conference? You think the U didn’t buy titles? Or the Sooners? Or the Irish? What about USC and a guy who lost a Heisman? What about Herschel’s car? Bear Bryant ran the best money laundering operation since Capone. Meyer had a good one too. The sky is not falling. Just because GT football is dying doesn’t mean the sport is. Wake Forest says hi.
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Size matters OJ. When the latest iterations amount to a tsunami, it's not Just funny. Murder has happened a lot too, huh? Is it different though when it becomes legal? cFB's history as you pointed out, is like a bruise....NIL,TP, and $ wars, are more like a compound fracture.
 
OptionJacket said:
College football has been broken for decades and most of you ate it up throughout your lives. Now all of a sudden because some of you chicken littles don’t like the latest iteration you think it’s broken now? Just funny. You ever heard of free shoes U? You ever heard of SMU or the Southwest Conference? You think the U didn’t buy titles? Or the Sooners? Or the Irish? What about USC and a guy who lost a Heisman? What about Herschel’s car? Bear Bryant ran the best money laundering operation since Capone. Meyer had a good one too. The sky is not falling. Just because GT football is dying doesn’t mean the sport is. Wake Forest says hi.
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GoldZ said:
Size matters OJ. When the latest iterations amount to a tsunami, it's not Just funny. Murder has happened a lot too, huh? Is it different though when it becomes legal? cFB's history as you pointed out, is like a bruise....NIL,TP, and $ wars, are more like a compound fracture.
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Exactly. The new rules of “college” football are designed to eliminate the possibility of a TCU, Georgia Tech, Boise State or Cincinnati occupying a place in the CFB playoff that could cost ESPN $$$ because they don’t have a million bandwagon fans.

this sport called “college football” will end up becoming a regional sport with little national popularity like NASCAR.
 
I think I am slowly coming to terms that Tech has no chance in today's college football landscape. Tech has decided to try to compete with the big boys on their terms but with less than half of their resources. You'd think a group of engineers would be able to see how this just is not going to work.

Even if Tech pulls in a #30 class, what difference does it make when the players that show the most promise or potential transfer away?

I will always be a Tech fan and hope they can at least get back to being competitive, but right now the outlook appears grim.
 
TechRush said:
I think I am slowly coming to terms that Tech has no chance in today's college football landscape. Tech has decided to try to compete with the big boys on their terms but with less than half of their resources. You'd think a group of engineers would be able to see how this just is not going to work.

Even if Tech pulls in a #30 class, what difference does it make when the players that show the most promise or potential transfer away?

I will always be Tech fan and hope they can at least get back to being competitive, but right now the outlook appears grim.
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We have done it to ourselves with our arrogance and our pearl clutching holier than thou approach. Our AA has some serious flaws and really needs a complete overhaul, specifically our compliance office and their approach.
 
BainbridgeJacket said:
We have done it to ourselves with our arrogance and our pearl clutching holier than thou approach. Our AA has some serious flaws and really needs a complete overhaul, specifically our compliance office and their approach.
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It's possible, that you are not aiming close enough to the snake's head. Think higher! Good point though about arrogance, but a perfectly humble compliance office, would imo be like a band-aid on an amputation.
 
It seems paradoxical to have a sport that is broken and dying because of the enormous amount of money injected into it by legions of viewers and passionate fans.

College football isn't dying, it's just changing. And it's not like the size of these changes are unprecedented -- free agency coming to sports in the 70s was at least as big of a change, and probably bigger. No doubt that brought about the same bellyaching we're hearing about today's changing CFB landscape.

Some people will stop watching, sure. Probably a lot of people whose schools don't have a commitment to football, and probably wouldn't even without these changes. But those viewers will be replaced by new fans of the teams in super leagues, and CFB will continue on like it has for 100+ years.

It really sucks for us that our fanbase is dying and it doesn't look like we have a competitive place in the new world, but the reality is we haven't been a bellwether of CFB for many decades.
 
GoldZ said:
It's possible, that you are not aiming close enough to the snake's head. Think higher! Good point though about arrogance, but a perfectly humble compliance office, would imo be like a band-aid on an amputation.
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Our compliance office is acting like hall monitors when everyone else has their compliance office creating strategies to keep their AA clean while still being competitive. It's night and day.
 
andrew said:
It seems paradoxical to have a sport that is broken and dying because of the enormous amount of money injected into it by legions of viewers and passionate fans.

College football isn't dying, it's just changing. And it's not like the size of these changes are unprecedented -- free agency coming to sports in the 70s was at least as big of a change, and probably bigger. No doubt that brought about the same bellyaching we're hearing about today's changing CFB landscape.

Some people will stop watching, sure. Probably a lot of people whose schools don't have a commitment to football, and probably wouldn't even without these changes. But those viewers will be replaced by new fans of the teams in super leagues, and CFB will continue on like it has for 100+ years.

It really sucks for us that our fanbase is dying and it doesn't look like we have a competitive place in the new world, but the reality is we haven't been a bellwether of CFB for many decades.
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This thread is a full retart dumpster fire of bigcry and doesn't deserve a thoughtful response
 
jacket_sav said:
as stupid as this thread sounds, I wonder if the T-O will work better now in the day of the NIL. The biggest hang-up that Tech had under Johnson was with recruiting, but now if we just find somebody to shell out a little extra cash to get a few elite players, it might feasible to discuss whether bringing back the option would be something worth considering. Can you imagine if the NIL was around back in the glory days of CPJ? They could have dropped some extra cash on an elite running back or some defensive backs or linemen that might have ended up being game changers.

Maybe this is all crazy talk, but what else can we do but day dream?
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Fans talking about returning to the TO makes me shake my head and run around in circles! If Tech is going to continue playing football at least run a offense that players are interested in. Before the SB I looked at each teams roster, not one player played for Tech. Bring back the TO ??
 
yellowbritchies said:
Fans talking about returning to the TO makes me shake my head and run around in circles! If Tech is going to continue playing football at least run a offense that players are interested in. Before the SB I looked at each teams roster, not one player played for Tech. Bring back the TO ??
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I think the consensus is that anything is better than what we have witnessed the last three years. I don't really care about how many players are in the NFL, so long as Tech actually is winning. Sure, the elite players care about it. But at least with the option, you don't need elite players, just good players
 
jacket_sav said:
I think the consensus is that anything is better than what we have witnessed the last three years. I don't really care about how many players are in the NFL, so long as Tech actually is winning. Sure, the elite players care about it. But at least with the option, you don't need elite players, just good players
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That is not the consensus at all. "Anything is better than what we have" is the perfect way to make the situation worse. "Somethin" is better than what we have but not "anything."
 
jacket_sav said:
I think the consensus is that anything is better than what we have witnessed the last three years. I don't really care about how many players are in the NFL, so long as Tech actually is winning. Sure, the elite players care about it. But at least with the option, you don't need elite players, just good players
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Plenty of successful programs neither recruit at an elite level nor run the triple option. Why some guys on here act like this is a binary choice is beyond me.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Plenty of successful programs neither recruit at an elite level nor run the triple option. Why some guys on here act like this is a binary choice is beyond me.
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It's because they don't know anything about football. All they know is GT football and recent history of it at that. That's the only context under which it's a binary choice. This is the same logic that gets Whisenhunt and Godsey as candidates.
 
GoldZ said:
Size matters OJ. When the latest iterations amount to a tsunami, it's not Just funny. Murder has happened a lot too, huh? Is it different though when it becomes legal? cFB's history as you pointed out, is like a bruise....NIL,TP, and $ wars, are more like a compound fracture.
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Wrong. You just don’t appreciate history and believe nothing in the past was as important as the now. Cincinnati just made the Final Four. They aren’t even a P5 school. Here’s the simple formula that worked for GT in 1990, worked for Cincy in 2021, and has worked for many teams in between - hire a good coach who becomes great (even if only for 1 season), have a QB who becomes special during a season, and recruit good players and have more pan out than not. That’s it. This is like a twisted ankle not a compound fracture, but the reaction is definitely one of a soccer player.
 
andrew said:
It seems paradoxical to have a sport that is broken and dying because of the enormous amount of money injected into it by legions of viewers and passionate fans.

College football isn't dying, it's just changing. And it's not like the size of these changes are unprecedented -- free agency coming to sports in the 70s was at least as big of a change, and probably bigger. No doubt that brought about the same bellyaching we're hearing about today's changing CFB landscape.

Some people will stop watching, sure. Probably a lot of people whose schools don't have a commitment to football, and probably wouldn't even without these changes. But those viewers will be replaced by new fans of the teams in super leagues, and CFB will continue on like it has for 100+ years.

It really sucks for us that our fanbase is dying and it doesn't look like we have a competitive place in the new world, but the reality is we haven't been a bellwether of CFB for many decades.
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College football is built on a large percentage of the sport's fans being willing to be sacrificial lambs in exchange for a highly-volatile sport where those same sacrificial lambs can crash the party with a pretty high frequency. See: The Georgia Tech 1990 National Championship, the 2007 Missouri-Kansas Game Of The Century, and so forth.

The big money programs are taking the lambs for granted and don't realize that they are the raison d'etre for the big programs having any fans. They think they can hog all of the talent, forever, and UNC will just accept getting skullööööed by Clemson 91-0 every year. It's not happening, and college football is on its way out the ööööing door if they can't figure out some way of sharing talent. A dipshit 'super league' where Michigan and Oklahoma are going 3-13 every year is going to be utterly DoA and will die in a handful of years.
 
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