College Football Playoff

BarrelORum

BarrelORum

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I've always been against a playoff system in college football for a lot of reasons that I'll name later. But for fun,if you were to create a playoff system, how would it work? You will never be able to do more than an 8 team playoff in my opinion and a 4 team is more likely. But regardless, how would you do it using the current standings to fill seeds?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

4 team, 8 team, 16 team playoff? Are the seeds run by BCS rank or conference tie ins?

My point in making this playoff debate, is there is no way to make a playoff in college football and not still have debate over how its run. It would be worse than the current arguement of the BCS system.
 
Every team enters in a 12 game round robin. They play 8 or 9 "league games" and, if they are one of the best two in that "league" the play a league championship.

Then, we look at the resumes and rankings of those "league champions," pick the best two, and they play in the final, single elimination round, know as the "championship game."

Hey--kinda what we have right now!

The regular season in college football is the best of any sport. It is a shame that people who don't go to the games wantt to mess things up because they can't handle a system that doesn't give them a clear answer.
 
How can it be worse when it gives more teams a chance towards a championship?
 
cyptomcat said:
How can it be worse when it gives more teams a chance towards a championship?
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Because it destroys the regular season? Why do you care about crowning a "single" national champion? Why this obsession with clarity?
 
Easy, BCS seeds the top 8 teams, we keep all other bowl games, and still use the bcs "bowls" for the top games.

Paul Johnson Loves the PLAYOFF System.
 
Force everyone to play a conference championship and give me the top 8, no questions asked. You're right, there will be a little bitching, but there aren't many, if any, years in which #9 is a legitimate title contender at the end of the season. Look at this year: 9-11 are Boise, OSU, and TCU. Boise is a bit of a special case, but none of these teams really have an argument. Texas Tech, at #8, really does have an argument that they are just as deserving as any of the teams that are going to go.

EDIT: I really don't understand the whole "it will destroy the regular season" thing. The NFL regular season does pretty damn well. Not to mention, it's really easy to fall out of the top 8...all it takes is one loss if you're not #1 or #2. In fact, it would make MORE games count towards the end of the season because you'd still have 12 teams legitimately in the title mix.
 
Sounds good, but you failed to use specific examples based on the current rankings. Grade: D-

TechSBP said:
Every team enters in a 12 game round robin. They play 8 or 9 "league games" and, if they are one of the best two in that "league" the play a league championship.

Then, we look at the resumes and rankings of those "league champions," pick the best two, and they play in the final, single elimination round, know as the "championship game."

Hey--kinda what we have right now!

The regular season in college football is the best of any sport. It is a shame that people who don't go to the games wantt to mess things up because they can't handle a system that doesn't give them a clear answer.
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TechSBP said:
Because it destroys the regular season? Why do you care about crowning a "single" national champion? Why this obsession with clarity?
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Thank you for summarizing the beauty and essence of college football.
 
TechSBP said:
Because it destroys the regular season?
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I totally disagree, in FCS the regular season means everything. GSU has been 3 points away the last two seasons for getting a shot at the playoffs, and thus, the National Championship.

GSU has won it all by being 15-0 and they also won it all from just barely squeeking in the last slot. This also gives all the non-bcs teams a legit chance at winning it all, something they will never ever have with the current setup.

It will also kill teams like USC west that come from weak conferences.
 
FCS/I-AA has a 16 team playoff, so I don't see why I-A couldn't have one too. Here are my thoughts:

- Cut regular season back to 11 games
- All conference winners get autobids (if they have a conference championship game).
- Five additional at-large teams
- at-large selections and seeding decided by an NCAA committee (like in hoops)
- Higher seeded team hosts the playoff game
- Championship game hosted in different cities every year
 
Again, you fail because you have not used specific examples based on the current rankings. Until you do a hypothetical playoff based on todays rankings, don't bother posting a response. Grade: D-

gth816f said:
Force everyone to play a conference championship and give me the top 8, no questions asked.
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BarrelORum said:
Again, you fail because you have not used specific examples based on the current rankings. Until you do a hypothetical playoff based on todays rankings, don't bother posting a response. Grade: D-
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Really? I didn't?

gth816f said:
Look at this year: 9-11 are Boise, OSU, and TCU. Boise is a bit of a special case, but none of these teams really have an argument. Texas Tech, at #8, really does have an argument that they are just as deserving as any of the teams that are going to go.
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Talk about your revisionist history.

EDIT: Unless you just wanted me to list the names of teams 1-7, which I guess I can do for you. No one cares who gets in, they just care who gets left out.
 
gth816f said:
Really? I didn't?

Talk about your revisionist history.

EDIT: Unless you just wanted me to list the names of teams 1-7, which I guess I can do for you. No one cares who gets in, they just care who gets left out.
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Ok, maybe I should upgrade you to a D+. What I'm looking for is a playoff system and then apply iy to the current rankings and tell me who is in your playoff.
 
Ok here is my try.
(we don't know the BCS Rankings yet but based on the AP as if it were the bcs...)


#1 Florida vs. #8 Texas Tech
#2 OU vs. #7 Utah
#3 Texas vs. #6 Penn State
#4 Bama vs. #5 USC
 
BarrelORum said:
Ok, maybe I should upgrade you to a D+. What I'm looking for is a playoff system and then apply iy to the current rankings and tell me who is in your playoff.
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Okay. I would seed 8 teams 1-8, have team #1 play team #8, 2 vs. 7, etc. I've thought long and hard about who I would put in and here's the result:

1.Oklahoma (31) 12-114822
2.Florida (26) 12-114814
3.Texas (4) 11-114083
4.USC11-113095
5.Alabama12-113091
6.Penn State11-111936
7.Utah12-011347
8.Texas Tech11-111328
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This was really difficult to do, I can see why you needed me to list it out.
 
knoxjacket said:
FCS/I-AA has a 16 team playoff, so I don't see why I-A couldn't have one too. Here are my thoughts:

- Cut regular season back to 11 games
- All conference winners get autobids (if they have a conference championship game).
- Five additional at-large teams
- at-large selections and seeding decided by an NCAA committee (like in hoops)
- Higher seeded team hosts the playoff game
- Championship game hosted in different cities every year
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I like this proposal, but you're going to have to include some bowls somehow. The NCAA can't take action that would eradicate all of them.
 
The 6 BCS conferences are NEVER going to agree to a system where their champion is not invited to the playoff. Legal reasons will also force the NCAA to include the smaller conferences. For these reasons, an 8 or 4 game playoff will never happen.
 
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